The Illusion and Luster of Alpha Male in has Ruined Black Men, Black Women and Ultimately the Black Family.

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FACTS.

To some degree guys like Nipsey Hussle too, and this is coming from someone who was a fan of his music while he was actually here.

This “image of the community-oriented thug with a big heart who also reads a lot of books” has made it so that a lot of young black men feel like they can’t just be intelligent and successful without being some type of street nikka.

And as much as we want to blame these big Jewish record execs, they couldn’t have put out such images of us without their cooperation.

You can even see it today with guys like Vlad TV and Adam 22.

A bunch of c00n ass nikkas go onto their platforms to perpetuate ignorance on a white man’s platform for the entertainment of the masses.

A bunch of dumb nikkas babbling on about ignorant shyt somehow being praised as “deep”.

Guess what era a lot of them are from? :mjpls:


This is real deep. We champion personas that are very detrimental to our races and growth.
 

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nikkas spent damn near idolizing the dregs of our community then are confused as to why the women go directly to them

Then on the Internet crying about not being “allowed” or “accepted” to be themselves
This is it right here. I've checked out of these gender topics because i saw it devolve into pure tit for tat arguing. But this is the crux of the issue right here.

nikkas wanna have this "what came first, the chicken or the egg" argument on this dynamic trying to heave all the blame on the women. In truth though black men deserve as much or more blame for it.

Just like you said, nikkas have spent DECADES idolizing the worst of our communities. BM were the initial fandoms of murder rappers, trap rappers, pimps, robbers, drill rappers, the main fandom of the Power tv series, tupac (with or without business suits), future, chief keef etc. Men elevated all of this clown shyt

Little black girls spend their childhoods watching the males in their life that they look up to idolizing nikkas like Tupac and DMX. Why wouldn't they be attracted to it when they get older? You're the one who set the standard of it being cool. nikkas are big fans of this garbage which is why its not going away.

What's worse is mfs never to take on the role of responsible elders in the black community. These motherfukkers want to be peers to the kids not examples. I know multiple grown working professionals that refer to their desk jobs as "tha trap" on social media. I know 40 year olds who talk about their opps, still trying to score easy p*ssy from hanging out at the recording studio. Why? Because growing up is uncool

The biggest detriment to the community is "cool". Both what people think is cool, how vauled it is over things like responsibility, what people give up in pursuit of it etc. Black people are slaves to the word cool. I see young black boys/men leveraging their entire future to be cool every fukking day, because crashing out is what the girls and white masses think is coolest. That's why we have these outcomes and why they're so prevalent.

Thats why you have black women turning their nose up at majority of the black male population saying "there's no good black men left". Their values are fukked and by the time they start hitting the wall its too late to find a real man, they don't even know what the fukk to look for, their only frame of reference is violent emotional males and fictional characters (rappers).

Real men don't have such media friendly archteypes. They aren't all rich, they aren't all domineering, they aren't all (violently) reactive they aren't all bosses, they aren't all from poor backgrounds etc. These are fukking cliches but just read this thread and how it makes up the definition of " alpha" "high value man" etc, it makes me sick. Folks are so lost.

But hell, I dont care anymore. Im getting the hell out of this country
 

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I feel that, my parents were split and both worked religiously

And both were highly unhappy

Compared to my uncle who recently passed that casually built up his fathers trucking company, acquired a logging business and purchased multi families in the same time frame

Now all his sons are also millionaires. Most rich people aren’t rich by possessions or hard work but by seizing on opportunity when it’s there. Working families are bamboozled by their employers to live that always working mentality but it really reduces your mindset to a drone

Now if your hustle is for business I respect it, but no employer is trying to build you like you and God will build you

I mean no offense to you or your folks it’s just something I came to a painful conclusion in my own pursuit of entrepreneurship. Jesus even says to sell your possessions and follow after me. I take that seriously and have reduced my material load as much as possible(wearing same clothes, eating plain, enjoying the simple things when they come)


Yeah my dad did it because he couldn't sit still and decided to make money off of it lol. My dad was the epitome of a good ol country ass old man who was about his money but didn't spend it. I can hear him now "you don't need all that sh!t to be happy Coco" 😒

And to add on about the not realizing it part, I meant that in the sense that they have the similar personalities. I looked for the general things like values, being a provider, treating me well, came from a solid family structure etc like my dad but the realization that they have similar personalities was wild.
 

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Yeah my dad did it because he couldn't sit still and decided to make money off of it lol. My dad was the epitome of a good ol country ass old man who was about his money but didn't spend it. I can hear him now "you don't need all that sh!t to be happy Coco" 😒

And to add on about the not realizing it part, I meant that in the sense that they have the similar personalities. I looked for the general things like values, being a provider, treating me well, came from a solid family structure etc like my dad but the realization that they have similar personalities was wild.
When I say men provide seed I mean that in both a literal and metaphysical way. Perhaps both your father and your SO put out a vibe that keeps everyone fertile in spirit and body. If it works it works. I just know in America they love you working for them but the minute the role reverses you’ll see they don’t practice what they preach

Right now our hydroponic gardens are doing so well I’m debating making organic pestos/dried herb kits and starting a second Amazon brand

If you can keep your efforts in a healthy place the fruit is always good, but there’s a lot of folks who put in effort not because they are in good or bad place but because they simply have to be doing something

That in itself is its own kind of demon that took me awhile to expel.

I mentioned Jacob earlier but this dude was mackin so hard that his wives sent their handmaidens to him to make children that’s how good the seed he produced was. And if you read it like I do you’ll know it also isn’t talking in pure literal terms but metaphysical. The mannerisms, sayings, even the looks and smiles are all seed
 

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here it be the most basic azz hank hill dale gribble plumber factory cop middle class non wigger white boys and they all married. and their wives all work in some form of fashion as teachers or nurses or hairdressers or something. or the wife stays at home and they’re content being broke and clipping coupons while the kids are small. & same for the mexicans and asians

they don’t all be “alpha” “chad” “HVM”. thats delusional internet shyt. just mid average dudes but somehow they all have the family formation thing figured out and leading decent lives

i think we have so much generational trauma passed down at a large scale that there is a collective paralysis. a people who can’t put man + woman, the most basic simple building block of life, together in a coherent way will be stuck literally.

and for every couple that does figure it out at the individual level, their kids are still highly vulnerable to the overall culture until healthy home lives reach the tipping point of scale again
So true bruh.

It's discouraging to see all of these regular average working class people in other races, together in stores and events, we their kids. Even Mexican day laborer come home to hot meals and peace.


Here we are with this Gender War and none of us are winner. Society has turned us into competitors. And our women don't want to submit/surrender to us unless we're far superior to them.
 

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No other Men desires to be Alphas as much as Black Men.

No other Women desire to be with an Alpha as much as Black Women, many of our women go to their graves refusing to settle for anything other than a Alpha.

The real problem is that we don't really even understand that Alpha is a trait that you can only possess in certain areas of life. There's really no such thing as an Alpha Male. He can be Alpha in dealing with certain areas of like, but no man can be Alpha in all areas of life. Many Black People are under the illusion that there are Men that always does thing the "Alpha" Like a Boss or like a Gangster. That's not possible. We're all weak, ignorant and timid in certain areas of life.

So now we have so many men trying to be a Bosses (High Value Men) or Gangsters. Takes a certain amount of money to even pretend to be a Boss so most shoot for the Goon Image.. High Value Men and Gangsters are always on the move and women and kids aren't their man focus. So Neither really make greats Fathers or Husbands, but women love a challenge I guess.
Top tier incel rhetoric. shyt should be in a textbook it's so cut and dry.
 

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So you're saying the current generation of women are marrying/in serious monogamous relationships with regular brehs. Hmm.. statistics say 63% of men are single. Are 63% of women celibate?
Im not saying that either.

Nobody is holding out shyt for regular dudes. They don't want them at all
 

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For real.

That era of black men born after the Civil Rights/Black Pride movement but before the 90s fukked us over bad.

You can’t even talk to most of those nikkas about anything outside of sports, entertainment or women.

Hell, you even see it on here.

The first thing those old lames will say if they disagree with you is “you don’t get p*ssy” or “you must be suburban”.

A bunch of second childhood ass nikkas. :scust:
TAAAWWWK, Burg ! :damn:
 

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When I say men provide seed I mean that in both a literal and metaphysical way. Perhaps both your father and your SO put out a vibe that keeps everyone fertile in spirit and body. If it works it works. I just know in America they love you working for them but the minute the role reverses you’ll see they don’t practice what they preach

Right now our hydroponic gardens are doing so well I’m debating making organic pestos/dried herb kits and starting a second Amazon brand

If you can keep your efforts in a healthy place the fruit is always good, but there’s a lot of folks who put in effort not because they are in good or bad place but because they simply have to be doing something

That in itself is its own kind of demon that took me awhile to expel.

I mentioned Jacob earlier but this dude was mackin so hard that his wives sent their handmaidens to him to make children that’s how good the seed he produced was. And if you read it like I do you’ll know it also isn’t talking in pure literal terms but metaphysical. The mannerisms, sayings, even the looks and smiles are all seed


Yeah he's very much a put it on my back, I can handle it, I'm gonna get it or die trying type of man. He's an entrepreneur and knows how "they" are and uses it to his advantage.

I totally get what you're saying though. I'm a calm relaxed type of person. I'm happy when my mind is at peace and I don't have a lot on my plate. I don't want that 24/7 level of pressure but he thrives off of it
 

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This “image of the community-oriented thug with a big heart who also reads a lot of books” has made it so that a lot of young black men feel like they can’t just be intelligent and successful without being some type of street nikka.
Been noticing this as well as I get older. A Black man with an obvious level of intelligence still has to have an "edge" to him to be respected by many Black women and OTHER Black men.

Tupac's skill and lyricism alone wasn't enough, it was the "thug" image he portrayed that aided his success. This theme has continued for modern-day rappers.

A community activist can't simply earn respect by helping out and warning against gang culture, he needs to have prior experience in the streets to be taken seriously by "the hood".

A straight-laced, no-nonsense Black man, whether working class or professional, blue collar or white collar, is still viewed as "boring" or "lame" by many in our community (particularly under the age of 30), but trappers and scammers are respected for "getting it out of the mud".

I'm noticing a growing number of Black men my age who no longer feel pressured to act out the stereotypes that the men before us did, which gives me a sliver of hope, however the future still looks bleak.

We need to take a concerted effort to rip the control of the American Black man's image out of the hands of rappers, athletes, and entertainers. Otherwise, the blemishes will never be wiped away.
 

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Been noticing this as well as I get older. A Black man with an obvious level of intelligence still has to have an "edge" to him to be respected by many Black women and OTHER Black men.

Tupac's skill and lyricism alone wasn't enough, it was the "thug" image he portrayed that aided his success. This theme has continued for modern-day rappers.

A community activist can't simply earn respect by helping out and warning against gang culture, he needs to have prior experience in the streets to be taken seriously by "the hood".

A straight-laced, no-nonsense Black man, whether working class or professional, blue collar or white collar, is still viewed as "boring" or "lame" by many in our community (particularly under the age of 30), but trappers and scammers are respected for "getting it out of the mud".

I'm noticing a growing number of Black men my age who no longer feel pressured to act out the stereotypes that the men before us did, which gives me a sliver of hope, however the future still looks bleak.

We need to take a concerted effort to rip the control of the American Black man's image out of the hands of rappers, athletes, and entertainers. Otherwise, the blemishes will never be wiped away.
As long as we chase anti-intellectualism we are stuck in our own Dark Ages.

Our underbelly is not supposed to always represent our Overworld, unless it’s to help people get out of it
 
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