The Great Reparations Debate
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Marvel
Psalm 149:5-9
Exactly, they are expecting the spawn of Satan to give them reparations. These devils are about to crash the very dollar that these nikkas are asking for. They trust in Egypt. Like the scriptures says:
Suicide King
#OldBlack
We discussed this in SOHH back in '04, so the idea is not all mines.
When you look at stuff like the GI Bill, VA loans, FHA loans, etc...a lot these programs blacks were red lined out of in the 30's, 40's, 50's, and 60's. So this is why they were able to build up their communities, and they pushed us into ghettos. Now if one group of people have 100 years to accumulate wealth, while we had to fight for Civil Rights, you gotta say we did not have a fair advantage. They can try to make it seem there were not government programs in place to help the middle class, I feel reparations would correct some of these past ills.
For 100 years they pass wealth down to their children, build a stable community, pull money from their house for emergencies, pay for their kids college, or sell it and move into a better neighborhood while they oppress us and COINTELPRO us we have the odds against. And you better believe they bask in all of their good fortune, while all we get is 12 year olds and 17 year olds getting killed in the street.
I don't advocate giving people a lump sum, but I would like grant money to be around when I'm ready to buy house. Grant money around when I decide to start a business when I'm ready. Social programs is not reparations.
The first thing that came into my mind was how black do you have to be? Are we going to have cats looking like Drake and Blake Griffin wanting reparations too.I might be down for a new black country like what they did with Israel, but only if it was fully funded and backed.
A free college education would be a start
PhonZhi
Veteran
This needs to be talked about more on our end. We ALL need to be aware of this
PhonZhi
Veteran
I look at reparations as more of an "acknowledgement" of their wrongdoing. But of course that wont happen
Suicide King
#OldBlack
I look at reparations as more of an "acknowledgement" of their wrongdoing. But of course that wont happen
Reparations is not about acknowledgement, its a way to right a wrong.
I'm in Florida, and Indians on reservations get a monthly check, can sell goods tax free, and open casinos.
Gestures is all good and dandy, but money would go a long way.
A community where people own houses and own businesses you can expect only good things can happen.
Some places in Philly, New Jersey, and Detroit look like straight wastelands. Now imagine how reparations can bridge the gap.
Whites make it seem like we are asking for hand outs, but when things were getting handing out, we got none of the spoils. So all we ask is for the same that their ancestors received. You can't do a group of people like this for over 500 years and say our problems are self inflicted.
PhonZhi
Veteran
they do this because they refuse to even ACKNOWLEDGE what they've done.They've refused to take responsibility since slavery ended. I def agree with the rest of your post, but they must acknowledge FIRST.
Suicide King
#OldBlack
They acknowledge it, but they will say it was so long ago and its not on them its on their father's father.
This is why the biggest Tupac fan, Ice Cube fan, or Public Enemy fan never becomes socially aware and will be indifferent...because they can't relate.
Same reason why I can't relate to the Jews, Muslims, American Indians, etc...
I feel if they did not divide our community so much through all the negative OUTSIDE influence, we would have stronger voice. With all the murders and arrest of our brothers fighting for the cause, you have to believe they knew after the Civil Rights movement reparations was next.
We need a plan, rhetoric is something that gets us no where, and only increases the fame of so-called black leaders.
Ta-Nehisi Coates makes some great points.
Anybody that's serious about these types of discussions from an American perspective should give him a listen, and read his article from the Atlantic.
There's a thread in TLR with the article as well:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/the-case-for-reparations-by-tanehisi-coates.216067/
Queen
CEO of #GPB
They don't have to acknowledge anything because they aren't in as much control as they would lead you to believe.
It's really sad how some of us feel so hopeless like these wrongs will never be made right. The wrongs will be made right, justice will be served, and we will be getting our money. All throughout history, wrongs have been made right. I don't know why we think this is any different.
The only thing is that justice is NOT going to be in the way that we want it to be. We are not just going to go back and live in the same ways that we are used to living. The first step is a change in mindset. Many of us won't be able to make it past step one, but for those who do it will be well worth it.
It's really sad how some of us feel so hopeless like these wrongs will never be made right. The wrongs will be made right, justice will be served, and we will be getting our money. All throughout history, wrongs have been made right. I don't know why we think this is any different.
The only thing is that justice is NOT going to be in the way that we want it to be. We are not just going to go back and live in the same ways that we are used to living. The first step is a change in mindset. Many of us won't be able to make it past step one, but for those who do it will be well worth it.
Amerikan Melanin
Veteran
If you arent about reparations you are worse than a c00n or uncle tom.
https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-america-pay-reparations-to-descendants-of-american-slaves
https://www.change.org/p/petition-t...rings-on-reparations-for-slavery-and-jim-crow
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/reparations-african-slave
All of you should be signing this and having all your friends and family to sign it also.
https://www.change.org/p/bank-of-america-pay-reparations-to-descendants-of-american-slaves
https://www.change.org/p/petition-t...rings-on-reparations-for-slavery-and-jim-crow
http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/reparations-african-slave
All of you should be signing this and having all your friends and family to sign it also.
brick james
John piffington
What kind of c00n ass shyt is it to vote no for this. we were taken from our homeland, imprisoned, and built the foundation of many ill gotten gains. there is literally no argument I can imagine that would change my mind about this
filial_piety
Banned
I'm open to hearing why you yourself deserve reparations....and please atleast try to convey your point without ad hominem attacks and insults...
Thanks in advance.
