The genesis of the EAST vs WEST beef finally revealed : The story of how Bad Boy killed Suge's man Big Jake finally told by the owner of the club.

[kingofnyc]

Nahhh I don’t remember all these details in his book. Curry said it started over a girl

People put it on wolf cause wolf was the big name of the valley mob since he roll with puff, so it was obvious to blame the bigger name even though the little dudes in the crew killed jake..

A girl who had a history with Suges people, but was with one of Puffs guys in ATL. Words got exchanged, someone waited in the parking lot... Stories always been the same.

Really? I own his book. And I've never read it. Might pick that shyt up tonite and finally read ..

straight from his book

Anyway, as Bad Boys gathered in one corner at Platinum House, Nicole and Wolf chatted by the downstairs bar. Nicole was raised among black music's royalty, so she's not the type of woman who'll tolerate being disrespected. In addition to being Sam Cooke's grand-daughter, she is the stepdaughter of famed Motown singer Mary Wells. When Mary Wells was down and out and living in South Central, one of the neighborhoods she lived in was controlled by Bloods, and one of the Bloods that Nicole knew personally was none other than Suge. Wolf kept his cool as Suge and Jake approached Nicole. Suge stood to Nicole's right, while Jake stood on Wolf 's left. Wolf refused to acknowledge either of them. “So your out here sucking all these east coast nikkas dikks, doing on these Bad Boys Fridays huh? Suge and Jake weren't aware of it, but they might as well have been standing in front of the O.K. Corral in Tombstone.You could sense the Grim Reaper's presence. I don't remember now if the music actually stopped, but it seemed like the only thing that I could hear was Jake yelling and screaming about getting respect. Jake was so focused on Wolf that he didn't realize that Jason had no intention of letting them harm Wolf. He and Wolf had been close since their teenage years, when they were part of a group that Puff rolled with called the Valley Mob. He hadn't said a word the whole time, but you could see that he was sizing up the situation, figuring out if Suge had other supporters there to back him up. Vee sensed what was happening, too. He stepped in between them and said: “That ain't goin' down here in this Club." To restore calm, he ordered Suge and Big Jake to leave. Vee told Chris Howard, a Fulton County Sheriff 's deputy who was moonlighting as a security guard, to escort them out of the club and to their limousine. Suge looked at Vee like he was ready to kick his ass or something, but his threatening stare rolled off Vee like sweat off a slave. A bully always takes a gamble with his life when he decides to intimidate someone, and Vee would have been a deadly bet. “Why y'all disrespecting' my house like this, Suge? We don't come out to the MOB (Suge's nightclub in Las Vegas) doing this to y'all. You calling me a Crip and my wife a traitor." In my book, the first person to leave the premises in the heat of an argument is the person you have to watch out for, and Jason sneaked out while Suge was talking to Vee. As Suge and Jake walked out of the club to get into a limo that was parked out front, Puff arrived by limousine. Wolf was on his cell phone trying to call Puff to warn him that there was trouble at the club and that he should stay away. “We're not going in there!" Wolf yelled over the growing noise and sporadic fighting among the factions. "fukk it. We're outta here." But before Wolf could make his way to the limousine to talk to Puff, Jason whipped out his pistol and pumped a piece of led into Jake's 300-pound frame. The bullet hit him in the stomach. Jake pressed his left arm against his stomach, turned around and dived into the limo, but Jason got off two more rounds before the car door closed. Both shots struck Jake in his buttocks. While Jason was shooting, he was staring at Suge like he was saying: "nikka, you know this should have been you." Puff emerged from the limo and approached Suge. "Is everything all right, man? Are you okay?" As Puff moved closer to Suge, who had nothing to lose but his life, Suge quickly grabbed Puff in a choke hold and used him for a shield as he backed into the doorway of the club. Although Puff and Suge are both almost six feet tall, Suge outweighs him by at least a hundred pounds, the result of beefing up for professional football a long time ago. Puff kept saying, “I don't have nothing to do with that Suge, I don't have nothing to do with that.” Once inside, Suge let Puff go. “Oh my God . . . muthafukkas," Suge kept repeating. “Vee was outside trying to save Jake's life by applying pressure to his stomach area where blood was gushing out. He kept talking to him, assuring him that everything would be all right. Suge was running around in circles ranting and raving like a rooster, but wasn't doing shyt to actually help save Jake's life. "Breathe, Brother, breathe," Vee said. "Am I hit bad?" Jake asked him like a frightened kid talking to his father. The look of doom was on his face.

how do u go from this to the fukk shyt said in the OP ~ nikkaz must’ve been paid to tell dem

 

[kingofnyc]

My man, I know ALL about Wolf.

And again, Suge doin this to Puff is not an indictment of Wolf. He’s still every bit of tough guy. But….as we say in hoops, them other nggas get paid too.

The same way east coast nggas talk about Wolf is exactly how west coast nggas talk about Big Jake, and Buntry, and Neckbone, and Herron, etc etc.

Like what are you even talking about. He a street ngga not a super hero. Wolf wasn’t dumb he knew who he could violate indiscriminately….and who he couldn’t. Suge was someone he couldn’t

anybody putting hands on puff especially in front of him ….. would make wolf look bad




and for the record suge has zero street cred & that’s verified by everyone from his hood

 

[Boonapalist]

anybody putting hands on puff especially in front of him ….. would make wolf look bad




and for the record suge has zero street cred & that’s verified by everyone from his hood

Breh you’re acting like Wolf is Superman or the boogeyman calm the fukk down with all that

And no you have Mob James that has a grudge from his brother dying that shyts on Suge’s street cred. There are other nikkas from his hood that vouch for him

 

[Braman]

anybody putting hands on puff especially in front of him ….. would make wolf look bad




and for the record suge has zero street cred & that’s verified by everyone from his hood

Bet then it look bad on Wolf Suge slapped the shyt out of Puff and Wolf didn’t do shyt ….then drank with them weeks later

You also must have missed where Suge and Jake roled up on ol’ girl while she was with Wolf and said ‘oh you suckin east coast Nggas dikk’. Clearly they wasn’t scared

So i was being conservative and sayin these dudes were somewhat friends but we can do it the other way ngga. Wolf was picking n choosing who to bark on

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Funny how Wolf ended up stretched out in Atlanta also

 

[Braman]

….

 

[mson]

Yep. As if Nggas needed verification —-which I hate——but there it is. Bc that’s way too randomly specific to be ‘made up’. And Gene got that directly from Wolf and it’s wild to think he’d lie on his dead mans for no reason



You have three firsthand accounts and you’d rather listen to an opinion?

Social media has broken you new nggas. Yall got trust issues

Yes, I do.

 

[re'up]

Funny how Wolf ended up stretched out in Atlanta also

Right, and the same circumstances. Just gangster shyt. Pistols in the club, or in the car, couple of shooters, rolling with some ballers and criminals. Over a woman, or a slight, old tensions, old issues, stolen bricks, someone fukked someone girl, none of it really matters, and no one could ever get the "truth".

it's never a conspiracy and rarely even targeted, as in someone came to the club to kill Woldff or kill Jake. No it just happened. Part of it is just the PLACE. Nigthclubs and after hour spots. I don't roll like that, or move like that, but all you need to add is pistols, and you get the end result. Egos and gunpowder residue on hands.

 

[Sbp]

Its crazy that CMR & No Limits Beef didnt reach that Level and im sure it was a Small World in

P and Bird were smart to not let their labels take it too far. That beef was actually a byproduct of the Magnolia-Calliope beef and bodies had been dropped on both sides

 

[re'up]

I need somebody to help me.. not have a big heart

He really is r Kelly

Just went and found that clip, I forgot that part, wow. That is essentially the same narcissism and delusional, grandiose thinking. It's not even a reasonable explanation, or the least bit convincing. I could have written a better quote for Puff, but I think a guy like him, and Kelly believe they are the victims.

 

[Big Boss]

I seen street nikkas do stupid shyt all the time. U act like street nikkas is all smart and calculated. Majority street nikkas are emotional and reactionary as fukk. Street nikkas die, and go to jail everyday behind this shyt.

Yep even Wolf himself got killed supposedly over a woman

 

[Big Boss]

Right, and the same circumstances. Just gangster shyt. Pistols in the club, or in the car, couple of shooters, rolling with some ballers and criminals. Over a woman, or a slight, old tensions, old issues, stolen bricks, someone fukked someone girl, none of it really matters, and no one could ever get the "truth".

it's never a conspiracy and rarely even targeted, as in someone came to the club to kill Woldff or kill Jake. No it just happened. Part of it is just the PLACE. Nigthclubs and after hour spots. I don't roll like that, or move like that, but all you need to add is pistols, and you get the end result. Egos and gunpowder residue on hands.

Possibly getting high and drunk

 

[spliz]

I don’t wanna hear shyt about Pac being a liar again. Real talk.

 

[King Karim]

Im going to make it my point in every thread to keep letting nikkaz know.
There was no east Coast, west coast beef.

This is just a case of 2 young dudes with money, who were friends and their petty back and forth.

Everybody else was just pawns in their bullshyt.

Tupac and big.... All the women, all the bodyguards and entourages... Were all expendable

Nah. It really was some East Vs West ish going on back then

Cali Vs New York had always been a thing and the music amplified it. It wasn't just bad boy Vs Death Row going back and forth. It was plenty of other acts.. those 2 camps just got essentially all the promo bc they had the 2 biggest artists and eventually the 2 deaths but the Old Headz know

 

[King Karim]

If anyone read the Hip Hop cop book back in the day, u know Wolfe wasn't the shooter and u knew the name of the shooter as well. It was all n there