that Hard On Hoes life 'bout to backfire on Devoe....
"The Flash" Season 4 - Offical Thread
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that Hard On Hoes life 'bout to backfire on Devoe....
Devoe:think about it...or better yet don't
you'll just end up hurting yourself...
Devoe been servin' Barry that Ether all season long...
you'll just end up hurting yourself...Devoe been servin' Barry that Ether all season long...
Clark Wayne
Superstar
Damn this season been a let down. At least Arrow had a bounce back season with it's 5th one. Flash still hasn't come close to it's 1st season.
I'm guessing next season the major villain might be Godspeed or Daniel West.
If it's Godspeed i can see them going the vigilante angle and he actually kills the bad guys, which gains him favor from the city over Flash. Kind of like Superman/The Elite.
I'm guessing next season the major villain might be Godspeed or Daniel West.
If it's Godspeed i can see them going the vigilante angle and he actually kills the bad guys, which gains him favor from the city over Flash. Kind of like Superman/The Elite.
I'm not really feeling the way they've been writing DeVoe the last fourth of the season.
At first he was nuanced and had interesting motives, but as the season went on they just started writing him as a generic a$$hole who likes to kill people for no reason and abuse his wife.
At first he was nuanced and had interesting motives, but as the season went on they just started writing him as a generic a$$hole who likes to kill people for no reason and abuse his wife.
this plot thread keeps coming up now and again...
Kenny West
Veteran
Nah. Iris is just one entry on the long list of why this season is lame, but she is a microcosm of everything wrong with this show now.
The issue with Iris now is that she's written in a way that makes you think that during the planning stages of this season somebody had "MAKE IRIS A THING" written on a chalkboard with a bunch of underlines underneath. Every episode they try to shoehorn her into some screentime in only the most obvious and convoluted ways, like that time she dragged barry to marriage conseling the day after he got out the speedforce....before they were even married.
Regardless of how stupid it is they toss iris into situations yet nobody in charge of this show has realized that they have developed 0% of her character. Every facet of iris's character revolves around barry. season 1 she blogs about him, season 2 got a reporting job only reporting about him, season 3 she's dedicated to him entirely and season 4 she quits all adult work to be the guy who looks at the computer screen and says "Run barry......run" when he's fighting a villain. No character arc, no growth, no nothing, they just have her do random shyt every episode while trying to convince the audience she's an essential member of team flash.
This was best exemplified on the Girl's Night episode. These hacks write iris an episode about iris's bachlorette party and forgot to actually write her in some friends, some other family or any semblance of a life. So when she selects bridesmaids she's stuck with
-A character she's only met last season and interacted with a couple times (Caitlyn)
- Her dads new girlfriend.....introduced just this season
and last but not least....a character from an entirely different show that she's never even spoke to (felicity)
It's laughably bad especially considering we're 3 versions of Harrison Wells deep and all of them aren't just better characters but they all have completed character arcs and development.
It's sad because Candice Patton really put her foot into this role. It's not like they gave her a ton to work with but she's been acting her ass off playing this role. The way her eyes are lit up during one of her usual wifely devotion speeches is
It's a shame this show is in the hands of such shytty writers
Calling it now,Davoe's wife defeats him and when the enlightenment is stopped, somehow Davoe gets all his brain power sucked out and she gets to be his caretaker and help reshape him to be more like how she was before they met.
Clark Wayne
Superstar
I get the overall point you’re making but Iris has known all of those characters since season 1.Nah. Iris is just one entry on the long list of why this season is lame, but she is a microcosm of everything wrong with this show now.
The issue with Iris now is that she's written in a way that makes you think that during the planning stages of this season somebody had "MAKE IRIS A THING" written on a chalkboard with a bunch of underlines underneath. Every episode they try to shoehorn her into some screentime in only the most obvious and convoluted ways, like that time she dragged barry to marriage conseling the day after he got out the speedforce....before they were even married.
Every facet of iris's character revolves around barry. season 1 she blogs about him, season 2 got a reporting job only reporting about him, season 3 she's dedicated to him entirely and season 4 she quits all adult work to be the guy who looks at the computer screen and says "Run barry......run" when he's fighting a villain. No character arc, no growth, no nothing, they just have her do random shyt every episode while trying to convince the audience she's an essential member of team flash.
This was best exemplified on the Girl's Night episode. These hacks write iris an episode about iris's bachlorette party and forgot to actually write her in some friends, some other family or any semblance of a life. So when she selects bridesmaids she's stuck with
-A character she's only met last season and interacted with a couple times (Caitlyn)
- Her dads new girlfriend.....introduced just this season
and last but not least....a character from an entirely different show that she's never even spoke to (felicity)
It's laughably bad especially considering we're 3 versions of Harrison Wells deep and all of them aren't just better characters but they all have completed character arcs and development.
It's sad because Candice Patton really put her foot into this role. It's not like they gave her a ton to work with but she's been acting her ass off playing this role. The way her eyes are lit up during one of her usual wifely devotion speeches is
Iris met both Caitlyn and Felicity in season one, although you’re right, they weren’t exactly good friends or anything.
Cecile was introduced towards the end of the first season, she just didn’t start dating Joe until season 3.
Still, it’s true the writers don’t really know what to do with Iris outside of her interactions with Barry.
BooksnCookies
All Star
Nah. Iris is just one entry on the long list of why this season is lame, but she is a microcosm of everything wrong with this show now.
The issue with Iris now is that she's written in a way that makes you think that during the planning stages of this season somebody had "MAKE IRIS A THING" written on a chalkboard with a bunch of underlines underneath. Every episode they try to shoehorn her into some screentime in only the most obvious and convoluted ways, like that time she dragged barry to marriage conseling the day after he got out the speedforce....before they were even married.
Every facet of iris's character revolves around barry. season 1 she blogs about him, season 2 got a reporting job only reporting about him, season 3 she's dedicated to him entirely and season 4 she quits all adult work to be the guy who looks at the computer screen and says "Run barry......run" when he's fighting a villain. No character arc, no growth, no nothing, they just have her do random shyt every episode while trying to convince the audience she's an essential member of team flash.
This was best exemplified on the Girl's Night episode. These hacks write iris an episode about iris's bachlorette party and forgot to actually write her in some friends, some other family or any semblance of a life. So when she selects bridesmaids she's stuck with
-A character she's only met last season and interacted with a couple times (Caitlyn)
- Her dads new girlfriend.....introduced just this season
and last but not least....a character from an entirely different show that she's never even spoke to (felicity)
It's laughably bad especially considering we're 3 versions of Harrison Wells deep and all of them aren't just better characters but they all have completed character arcs and development.
It's sad because Candice Patton really put her foot into this role. It's not like they gave her a ton to work with but she's been acting her ass off playing this role. The way her eyes are lit up during one of her usual wifely devotion speeches is
Eh, I can agree with this.
My point still stands, Iris is NOT a bad character. The writing for her is shyt, but she's not an inherently bad character. It's funny cause no one says anything about how utterly useless Killer Frost has been this season. Pre-losing KF, she did nothing but get hemmed up every time she stepped on screen. I hate it. A lot of the screen time used on this KF mess, could've been written as a more evolved arc for Iris. For ex, last night we got some characterization of CS/KF. WTF? Why didn't they do this eons ago? Where is this story going? We've seen Cisco's interactions with his brother, Caitlin's past, yet we never saw how she dealt with her mom's death-not really. There are A LOT of characters besides Iris that detract from the show, KF being the main one (who honestly shouldn't even be in The Flash, but whatever). Besides Iris, we could've used a lot of this supposed KF arc on Wally or introducing Linda again. I seriously despise the writers.
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As far as the episode? It was one of the better ones of this season, but still meh. I REALLY enjoyed Devoe's introduction, but he's highly a trash villain. I'm not convinced regarding his motivations and it's honestly really stupid. It feels like nothing has been resolved-part 1 feels completely disconnected from part 2 and I don't feel like Team Flash deserves a win because of complete and utter stupidty this season. Maybe it'll get better in Season 5?
it's one thing to have barry running around central city curing central city problems, but how does it ever get to the point where you have a threat to the entire world and it's still treated like a central city problem.
To be honest I prefer Season 3 to this Season, but in all honestly I think Season 3 is kind of underrated.
No matter how many people hate to admit it, that "Who is Savitar?" shyt had everybody on the edge of their seat. I kind of miss having a masked villain and trying to figure out who they are.
The thing with DeVoe is that it just doesn't feel personal. With Thawne it was personal because he killed Barry's mom. With Zoom, it was personal because of how Zoom tricked all of them with the whole "Jay Garrick" thing/kidnapped Jesse/killed Barry's dad. With Savitar, it was personal because he was going to kill Iris and because of who he ended up being. DeVoe comes off as just some random guy who wants to take over the world, and otherwise has nothing to do with the main cast.
No matter how many people hate to admit it, that "Who is Savitar?" shyt had everybody on the edge of their seat. I kind of miss having a masked villain and trying to figure out who they are.
The thing with DeVoe is that it just doesn't feel personal. With Thawne it was personal because he killed Barry's mom. With Zoom, it was personal because of how Zoom tricked all of them with the whole "Jay Garrick" thing/kidnapped Jesse/killed Barry's dad. With Savitar, it was personal because he was going to kill Iris and because of who he ended up being. DeVoe comes off as just some random guy who wants to take over the world, and otherwise has nothing to do with the main cast.
Devoe
FATALITY'd Argus hallway
Dig's flabby frequent mileage
Cecille's a Mind Shifter now
Joe too old for this FUKKERY'That chair came out of nowhere'
Iris journalism spark
Cisco, say it wit you chest
Flashtime hidden temples
Mini Frost
Quick Boy
too slow for the Enlightment
Point Guard Marlize
Staf Flabb Takeover on a hundred, thousand, trillion
FATALITY'd Argus hallway Dig's flabby frequent mileage Cecille's a Mind Shifter now Joe too old for this FUKKERY'That chair came out of nowhere' Iris journalism spark Cisco, say it wit you chest Flashtime hidden temples Mini Frost Quick Boy too slow for the Enlightment Point Guard Marlize Staf Flabb Takeover on a hundred, thousand, trillion