The fertility crisis is here and it will permanently alter the economy - CNN

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You all have such faith in your own American stats and numbers. Are they counting every village and country bush town? WHO's counting?(pun)



Those aren't just American numbers, those are numbers compiled from all over the world.

For example, Jamaica's birth rate has completely tanked in recent years. They don't have the same causes, but this is where they are now.




 

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Those aren't just American numbers, those are numbers compiled from all over the world.

For example, Jamaica's birth rate has completely tanked in recent years. They don't have the same causes, but this is where they are now.





You have not explained...
WHO is counting and HOW are they accessing EVERY village and town globally?
 

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This is more bad logic based on foolish stats that stem from a lifestyle that is not condusive for a flourishing humanity. It's only Western people who say this garbage becasue westerners live a self centered over consuming urban lifestyle. There's enough room and food for more poeple, it's just that you all like cities.

Too many large cities are bad, not too many people living spread out.
Not really, one, cities are more efficient and help to leave natural landscapes in place, deforestation to build spread out communities is causing climate change, the cost to run utilities to these areas is also a net negative. We’re also destroying too much natural land for large farms, grazing, as well as overfishing the seas. Finally we’re creating more and more trash in world full of disposable, cheap goods, this stuff ends up in oceans or being burned further contributing to climate change. There is no need for continued exponential growth of the human race other than economic incentives
 

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I've posted this in some of the other threads on this subject, I'll post it here too.


Remember replacement level is 2.3




111 Argentina 1.9
112 Bangladesh 1.9
113 Cape Verde 1.9
114 (7) Martinique (France) 1.9
115 Sri Lanka 1.9
116 Turkey 1.9
117 Vietnam 1.9
118 Bahrain 1.8
119 El Salvador 1.8
120 France 1.8
121 Ireland 1.8
122 Malaysia 1.8
123 Mexico 1.8
124 Moldova 1.8
125 Qatar 1.8
126 North Korea 1.8
127 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines 1.8
128 Brunei 1.7
129 Colombia 1.7
130 Czech Republic 1.7
131 Denmark 1.7
132 Estonia 1.7
133 (8) French Polynesia (France) 1.7
134 Iceland 1.7
135 Iran 1.7
136 Maldives 1.7
137 Montenegro 1.7
138 New Zealand 1.7
139 Romania 1.7
140 Sweden 1.7
141 United States 1.7
142 Antigua and Barbuda 1.6
143 Armenia 1.6
144 Australia 1.6
145 Azerbaijan 1.6
146 Barbados 1.6
147 Belgium 1.6
148 Brazil 1.6
149 Bulgaria 1.6
150 (9) Curaçao (Netherlands) 1.6
151 Dominica 1.6
152 Latvia 1.6
153 Lithuania 1.6
154 Netherlands 1.6


155 (10) Sint Maarten (Netherlands) (Dutch part) 1.6
156 Slovakia 1.6
157 Slovenia 1.6
158 Trinidad and Tobago 1.6
159 (11) Turks and Caicos Islands (UK) 1.6
160 United Kingdom 1.6
161 Austria 1.5
162 Belarus 1.5
163 Canada 1.5
164 Chile 1.5
165 Costa Rica 1.5
166 Cuba 1.5
167 Germany 1.5
168 Hungary 1.5
169 Norway 1.5
170 Poland 1.5
171 Russia 1.5
172 Saint Kitts and Nevis 1.5


173 Serbia 1.5
174 Switzerland 1.5
175 Uruguay 1.5
176 Albania 1.4
177 Bahamas 1.4
178 Bhutan 1.4
179 Croatia 1.4
180 Finland 1.4
181 Greece 1.4
182 Luxembourg 1.4
183 Mauritius 1.4
184 North Macedonia 1.4
185 Portugal 1.4
186 Saint Lucia 1.4
187 United Arab Emirates 1.4
188 Bosnia and Herzegovina 1.3
189 Cyprus 1.3
190 Italy 1.3
191 Jamaica 1.3
192 Japan 1.3
193 (12) Puerto Rico (US) 1.3
194 Spain 1.3
195 Thailand 1.3
196 Ukraine 1.3
197 (13) Aruba (Netherlands) 1.2
198 China 1.2
199 Malta 1.2
200 (14) Macau (China) 1.2
201 San Marino 1.2
202 Singapore 1.1
203 South Korea 0.9
204 (15) Hong Kong 0.8
 

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I have 1 child, and that is more than anybody else in the child bearing age generation of my family.
I do have a cousin with 4 kids, but he was adopted, so while he technically beats me, my 1 child is literally the only person younger than gen z in our entire bloodline
 

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Not really, one, cities are more efficient and help to leave natural landscapes in place, deforestation to build spread out communities is causing climate change, the cost to run utilities to these areas is also a net negative. We’re also destroying too much natural land for large farms, grazing, as well as overfishing the seas. Finally we’re creating more and more trash in world full of disposable, cheap goods, this stuff ends up in oceans or being burned further contributing to climate change. There is no need for continued exponential growth of the human race other than economic incentives

Every society lived and produced mostly locally until this modern era, there was still trade but not on this scale.

Utilities is mismanaged, scientists have proven eons ago that energy can be obtained from the ground, not including solar, wind, water etc. So utilities is no excuse, neither is farming. Every home/neighborhood/town can sustain itself on local grown crops like before. You dont need a ton of large farms. It's also been proven energy can be obtained from trash.

It's plain mismanagement, nothing to do with population.
 

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Top executives at publicly traded US companies mentioned labor shortages nearly 7,000 times in earnings calls over the last decade, according to an analysis by the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis last week.

“A reduction in the share of workers can lead to labor shortages, which may raise the bargaining power of employees and lift wages — all of which is ultimately inflationary,” Simona Paravani-Mellinghoff, managing director at BlackRock, wrote in an analysis last year.

And while net immigration has helped offset demographic problems facing rich countries in the past, the shrinking population is now a global phenomenon. “This is critical because it implies advanced economies may start to struggle to ‘import’ labour from such places either via migration or sourcing goods,” wrote Paravani-Mellinghoff.
Stop gatekeeping these jobs with degrees. Half of them can be taught on the job. A friend of mine retired after 25 years in the military. General Dynamics turned him down for a job for the very same thing he was doing while active because he didn't have a degree.:why:


BlackRock’s expert advises her clients to invest in inflation-linked bonds, as well as inflation-hedging commodities like energy, industrial metals and agriculture and livestock.

Imagine saying this with a straight face when your company is contributing to the problem. Buying up houses and properties at the same time.
 

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Every society lived and produced mostly locally until this modern era, there was still trade but not on this scale.

Utilities is mismanaged, scientists have proven eons ago that energy can be obtained from the ground, not including solar, wind, water etc. So utilities is no excuse, neither is farming. Every home/neighborhood/town can sustain itself on local grown crops like before. You dont need a ton of large farms. It's also been proven energy can be obtained from trash.

It's plain mismanagement, nothing to do with population.
We are not going back to local farming and local farming cannot sustain the world population, the population grew because of industrialization of food production and advances in medicine. The world doesn’t need more people.

The vast majority of growth in population has been the last 120 years, and lo and behold we’re seeing all the adverse affects on the planet. That rate of growth is not necessary nor needed

population_growth_over_last_500_years.jpg
 

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The world needs more white babies :sas1:
Exactly, such an obvious dog whistle :mjlol:.

They’re not gonna get them :yeshrug:. Can’t increase your population with rhetoric. They obviously aren’t willingly to do the restructuring that needs be done to create the economic conditions that encourage population growth. No surprise that all the growth is going to come from places where you don’t need much to live, in spite of not having much
 

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"The world needs more babies" It does? :leon: I thought there were too many people on the planet? :mjgrin:
same dikkheads are always complaining about climate change, and how we're running out of water. we don't need more fukkin babies :camby:

if humanity was fine when we were at 5 billion people, what's the problem with 8 billion gradually going back down to 7 over like a 100 year timespan? we'll be alright
 

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Exactly.


In the US at this point you need to be either rich or poor to be able to afford more than 2 kids. People in the middle can't afford that shyt anymore. I've spent over $130k on day care and my kids DID NOT go to the expensive ones in the area.
:mjcry: damn breh not to be nosy you don't got any family that could help out watching your kids.
 
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