The F(N)ukushima Thread .... and Related Nooklear Concerns

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How are they going to fix this?


A speaker for the plants engineers sumed it up by saying, "there is no book we can turn to and read for step by step instructions; this has not happened before, instead we have to come up with ideas and impliment them to the best of our judgements...mistakes will be made."


That's a translation though from japanese into english. In a more literal translation it was probably more like, "This is not good. Cannot fix today or tommorrow with our understanding. Potentially everyone has hope." :mjcry:
 
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A speaker for the plants engineers sumed it up by saying, "there is no book we can turn to and read for step by step instructions; this has not happened before, instead we have to come up with ideas and impliment them to the best of our judgements...mistakes will be made."


That's a translation though from japanese into english. In a more literal translation it was probably more like, "This is not good. Cannot fix today or tommorrow with our understanding. Potentially everyone has hope." :mjcry:
I wonder how much of the radiation is leaking into the ocean?

Would they actually release that info ?
 

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I wonder how much of the radiation is leaking into the ocean?

Would they actually release that info ?

There was some estimates being produced during the immediate aftermath of it all, at the time. The most recent information I've seen about it was a type of animated diagram of the earths pacific ocean and how the chemicals wax and wane with the tide until they spread out into thin pockets of filth that reached the westcoast of the states. So I think that means alot.

The information is for sure getting released. You just have to really have an eye on it to not miss too much. I don't think I've ever seen anything about it on cnn or fox or w.e since the catastophe actually happened. Strange
 
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The most recent information I've seen about it was a type of animated diagram of the earths pacific ocean and how the chemicals wax and wane with the tide until they spread out into thin pockets of filth that reached the westcoast of the states. So I think that means alot.

Correction. The most recent information I have on it is that the spread of radiation contaminated trash is what is currently being sifted in and out of the oceans natural flow, that will stretch and reach the westcoast. The chemical contamination that is going to hit the pacific ocean is not going to be in pockets. It's going to be the WHOLE pacific ocean. According to scientists.
 

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Great listen ...Since the event, she has been monitoring for the past 4 years. I've heard her on numerous radio shows, really easy going type person. She's not a professional in nook science, but she knows how to break it down for the laymen like myself.

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Germany draws up new plan to dispose of nuclear waste | Germany | DW.COM | 12.08.2015

Germany draws up new plan to dispose of nuclear waste
The German government has presented its plan for permanently disposing of nuclear waste. Critics say the proposal is a tacit admission that it is a bigger problem than it has ever acknowledged before.


Pausing only to get the okay from the cabinet, Environment Minister Barbara Hendricks gave a press conference on Wednesday to present the government's brand new plan for dealing with radioactive waste.

The plan foresees two locations: one site for low- to medium-radioactive waste is already being converted - the Konrad Shaft, part of a disused iron ore mine near the town of Salzgitter in northern Germany. But the other location, for highly radioactive waste, has yet to be found.

The new news is that Konrad would not be extended, as had been previously proposed, and this unknown new location would therefore also have to house any radioactive waste produced between now and 2022, when Germany plans to shut down its last reactor.


Hendricks said Germany is better prepared than other countries to deal with nuclear waste

Long-term danger

But the plan for dealing with the waste has a much longer time-scale, one which makes clear just how dangerous nuclear waste is to dispose of. Next year, a parliamentary commission will present its findings on the options, but an actual location won't be chosen until 2031, and it will take until 2050 to convert that site until it is ready to store the waste. The process of moving the waste there will then take several more decades.

But even that is optimistic, according to German environmentalists. "We're very, very skeptical of both those deadlines," said Olaf Bandt, head of the German environmental organization BUND. "It's a complex business. Not only that, but we want local populations to be included in the process."

"What became clear at the press conference is the huge amounts of highly-radioactive and medium-radioactive waste that actually exists, and in what ways we will be confronted with it in the next decades when we try to dispose of it safely," Bandt told DW. "We have called for it for some time, and now the government is finally admitting how much there is."

In Germany's defense, Hendricks was at pains to point out that, compared to other countries, the government's plans for dealing with nuclear waste were actually well-advanced. "There is no safe permanent disposal site in existence anywhere in the world," she told reporters. Not only that, she added, Germany has a comparative advantage: since it has a fixed deadline for shutting down its last reactors, authorities can estimate how much waste they will be dealing with. "Those countries that continue to use nuclear power should really be further along."

France is also in the process of constructing a site in the village of Bure, though that has not pleased Germans either, since it is only 120 kilometers (75 miles) from the German border.

But Bandt thinks Germany shouldn't be so quick to pat itself on the back. "Germany has for many years been pursuing an unsuitable plan," he said. "They had the site at Asse [a disused salt mine used to store nuclear waste that was found to be unsound]. They always thought that would be a safe site for decades, centuries, millennia. But it's completely failed, and in 2013 they had to admit they'll have to get the waste out of there again."


The storage site at Asse was found to be unsafe

Bavarian troublemakers

Indeed, though Hendricks' plan was a very important step, it also showed that Germany is still at the start of its search. For the past year, a parliamentary commission has been scouring Germany for a place to store the country's highly radioactive nuclear waste. The commission has been working on a "carte blanche" principle - in other words, every German state is open to consideration except the city states of Berlin, Hamburg, and Bremen.

But Bavaria, home to three of the eight German nuclear power stations still running, has apparently withdrawn itself from consideration. "According to the findings of the Bavarian state office for the environment about the underground geological substrate, the locations in Bavaria are not suitable for permanent disposal," the Bavarian Environment Ministry told "Der Spiegel" magazine on Tuesday.

The statement caused much outrage in other German states, but Bavaria has long cleaved to this view - State Premier Horst Seehofer had to take a lot of criticism from his own party, the Christian Social Union, when he agreed to open the state to consideration in 2011.

Meanwhile, geologists have already ruled out large swathes of the country as unsafe to store the waste. Any areas where layers of earth could move, or in which water or gases could seep through are out, as are Germany's few areas of minor tectonic activity - the Swabian Alps in Baden-Württemberg or the Upper Rhine Plain near Frankfurt.

What they are looking for are deep, dry mines or layers of solid rock - most of these are in northern Germany, though some regions in the south and southeast are still under consideration.
 

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Why not just make a rocket big enough to send to the sun.

And seal the waste in containers that can resist a worst case launch fukkup
 

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the world needs to get on the renewable wave. I think Germany has already figured out they can get all they need from solar.


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Closer to home :sas2:

In St. Louis, of course not so much in the corporate media..........there is an underground nook disposal site which includes material from the Manhattan Project....amazingly/somehow for the past 16 months or so a fire has been burning from a nearby trash dump has been making its way towards this nook waste site, underground.........apparently the fire is getting uncomfortably close to the nook waste site.........Officials squabble as underground fire burns near radioactive waste dump in St. Louis area

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The Bridgeton landfill in Missouri, pictured in 2014, is smoldering beneath its surface. (Jacob Barker / St. Louis Post-Dispatch / Associated Press)
 

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Closer to home :sas2:

In St. Louis, of course not so much in the corporate media..........there is an underground nook disposal site which includes material from the Manhattan Project....amazingly/somehow for the past 16 months or so a fire has been burning from a nearby trash dump has been making its way towards this nook waste site, underground.........apparently the fire is getting uncomfortably close to the nook waste site.........Officials squabble as underground fire burns near radioactive waste dump in St. Louis area

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The Bridgeton landfill in Missouri, pictured in 2014, is smoldering beneath its surface. (Jacob Barker / St. Louis Post-Dispatch / Associated Press)

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It's like that one area of PA where the mines have been on fire for 40 years :skip:

Damn how much fukked shyt is gonna happen?

BP wasn't contained
You've got that big ass salt dome in the south that might collapse
 

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It's like that one area of PA where the mines have been on fire for 40 years :skip:

Damn how much fukked shyt is gonna happen?

BP wasn't contained
You've got that big ass salt dome in the south that might collapse

Centralia

That's incredible...:mindblown: I thought a year was a long time.......sounds like a plot for a horror movie.........teenagers/college students go to find the fire burning out of control, underground .......... :lupe:


Actually 50 years ... :dahell:

Centralia PA Mine Fire - Photos History Visiting
 

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