The F(N)ukushima Thread .... and Related Nooklear Concerns

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you're on the West Coast :snoop:, you'll know before us unfortunately breh....

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- Japan Physician: I hope adults will leave Tokyo, not just children — Strange things happening — Medications don’t seem to work — Rare diseases increasing dramatically (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/japan-physician-...k-rare-diseases-increasing-dramatically-video

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The 'toxic monster' is coming! Texas-sized floating island containing one million tonnes of junk from Japan tsunami drifting towards US
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...apan-tsunami-drifting-towards-us-8922358.html
 

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you're on the West Coast :snoop:, you'll know before us unfortunately breh....

Updates

- Japan Physician: I hope adults will leave Tokyo, not just children — Strange things happening — Medications don’t seem to work — Rare diseases increasing dramatically (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/japan-physician-...k-rare-diseases-increasing-dramatically-video

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The 'toxic monster' is coming! Texas-sized floating island containing one million tonnes of junk from Japan tsunami drifting towards US
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/the-toxic-monster-is-coming-texassized-floating-island-containing-one-million-tonnes-of-junk-from-japan-tsunami-drifting-towards-us-8922358.html



i was just watching about how they where getting ready to take out the rods at the plant :lupe:
 

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they might have to dip those in to ocean water friend, :lupe:




http://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/newsline/201311062009.html


Well in that link you posted it said they would create another pool to store those rods in, lets hope they don't try a midnight marauding of the ocean by dumping them out there ...... :stopitslime:

I've heard it said several times ...... nooklear power (as most energy production) is just boiling water to turn a turbine to create electricity at its simplest form .... but the effort to build and deal with any disaster is not worth being it ..... 40 years to decommission a plant .... just:merchant:
 
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Well in that link you posted it said they would create another pool to store those rods in, lets hope they don't try a midnight marauding of the ocean but dumping them out there ...... :stopitslime:

I've heard it said several times ...... nooklear power is just boiling water to turn a turbine to create electricity at its simplest form .... but the effort to build and deal with any disaster is not worth being it ..... 40 years to decommission a plant .... just:merchant:




no garuntee's they wont mess up if i heard them correctly :mjpls:


:lupe: the people that are working there are going to get sick most likely too, this is work that will kill you
 

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There's a nuclear plant a couple hundred miles from me that got shook by an earthquake, literally. All these building got ruined and they temporarily shut the plant down.
I can see this being another 3-mile island incident if there's another big earthquake. I'm going to be like, "Hey beeches, anyone want my clippers? My hair never grows back." :to:
 

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Why this type of power and not solar or that cold fusion stuff.

"Money, Power, Respect" - The Lox ft Lil Kim

Money = great energy
Power = technology can go from great for humanity to "dropping them thangs" on humanity
Respect = ask Pakistan and India

Personally... I think its bullshyt, I think we have or have had the technology to provide clean, cheap energy from sources ... but monopolists "ain't got time for that" ... so we play with fire with nooklear......

Overall, as I've said before this is essentially just boiling water to turn a turbine to create electricity (but its not worth it... at all when the mining, the process itself, storage, accidents all create a calamitous situation). My understanding (or the grand argument for nooklear) is that solar and wind (for now/or so they say) can't provide baseload power http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Base_load_power_plant. Solar only works when there is sun and wind only works when there is wind, and to date (:beli: I don't believe it) the quality of batteries to store the solar power and wind power generated when there is no sun or wind isn't up to par for a large system.

I think the best country that can provide the answer of what it would be like to go off of nooklear and go all the way into renewables like solar is Germany, this is a recent article and must read, since the reason they are weaning off of nooklear is b/se of Fukushima.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/19/w...fort-at-clean-energy-proves-complex.html?_r=0
Germany’s Effort at Clean Energy Proves Complex

BERLIN — It is an audacious undertaking with wide and deep support in Germany: shut down the nation’s nuclear power plants, wean the country from coal and promote a wholesale shift to renewable energy sources.

But the plan, backed by Chancellor Angela Merkel and opposition parties alike, is running into problems in execution that are forcing Germans to come face to face with the costs and complexities of sticking to their principles.


German families are being hit by rapidly increasing electricity rates, to the point where growing numbers of them can no longer afford to pay the bill. Businesses are more and more worried that their energy costs will put them at a disadvantage to competitors in nations with lower energy costs, and some energy-intensive industries have begun to shun the country because they fear steeper costs ahead.

Newly constructed offshore wind farms churn unconnected to an energy grid still in need of expansion. And despite all the costs, carbon emissions actually rose last year as reserve coal-burning plants were fired up to close gaps in energy supplies.

A new phrase, “energy poverty,” has entered the lexicon.

“Often, I don’t go into my living room in order to save electricity,” said Olaf Taeuber, 55, who manages a fleet of vehicles for a social services provider in Berlin. “You feel the pain in your pocketbook.”


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Even without the energy the offshore turbines could produce, Germany’s power grid has been strained by new wind and solar projects on land, compelling the government to invest up to $27 billion over the next decade to build roughly 1,700 miles of high-capacity power lines and to upgrade lines.

The largely rural northern state of Schleswig-Holstein produces as much as 12,000 megawatts of power with new wind turbines and solar panels, but it can consume only about a sixth of that.

“Schleswig-Holstein is a microcosm for all of Germany,” said Markus Lieberknecht of the grid operator Tennet. “Where energy was previously brought into the state and distributed to small communities, these communities are now producing the power, and we need to find a way to transmit it to the larger urban areas. Everything has been stood on its head.”
 

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^^ Sounds great, the same way they said 70 years ago nooklear power generation is great .... but you got to ask those question about environmental externalities, those aspects that businesses try to downplay until the SHTF and the taxpayer is on the hook and the environment is inhospitable for habitation b/se of an accident or natural distaster (see Cherynobyl or Fukushima) .... I've heard of the pebble bed reactors too, they are supposed to be safe ... but we should find out about the whole process, from mining to processing to power generation to storage ... how clean and safe is this stuff...really
 

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Need more africans indians and african americans putting input into this. This issue probably would have been resolved if nikkas cared about education 30 years ago.
 

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1) NBC Nightly News: “Another highly troubling report about what’s going on in the Pacific” — Millions of starfish ‘melt away’ from Alaska to California — Expert: Fukushima radiation ‘not ruled out’ as factor in epidemic — Very, very different than anything seen before (VIDEO)
http://enenews.com/nbc-nightly-news...ornia-expert-fukushima-radiation-not-ruled-ou

Video here:

2) Hundreds of leopard sharks swarm kayakers

Video here:




^^^ Listening to alt media (also mentioned less seal populations, etc), the scientist on these shows are saying that the huge mass of trash/rubbish from Japan after the earthquake in 2011 is possibly radiated and is forcing aquatic creatures to seek relief closer to the shorelines?? IDK :yeshrug:... but my only thing about that is the huge Pacific vortex that they talk about that is supposed to have plastic swirling with trash, why wouldn't it pick up this same material from Fukushima??? :patrice:
 
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so the gov. of Japan is ready to imprison you as an evil doer if you ask questions they don't like ... which is basically related to Fukushima .......

http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/12/japan-collapses-back-fascism.html

Number 2 Japanese Official: Protest Is Terrorism
Posted on December 4, 2013 by WashingtonsBlog
Is Japan Sliding Back Into Fascism?
As we’ve previously reported, the Japanese government is reacting to Fukushima by introducing a bill which would ban journalism. The bill has passed the lower house, and is expected to pass the upper house this week.
A Japanese Senator
notes:
The path that Japan is taking is the recreation of a fascist state. I strongly believe that this secrecy bill represents a planned coup d’état by a group of politicians and bureaucrats ….
The bill would grant
agencies which no longer even exist the power to classify secrets. And Japanese officials admit that it will be used to classify what’s really going on at Fukushima.
Bloomberg
notes:
The entire process has echoes of George Orwell. If enacted, the secrecy law would allow government ministries to declare just about anything they want classified. It now even appears that trying to cajole information from someone privy to a state secret could warrant jail time. In other words, if I grab a beer with a bureaucrat and ask the wrong question, could I end up in handcuffs? Ambiguity reigns.
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Last week, the No. 2 official in Abe’s governing Liberal Democratic Party, Shigeru Ishiba, issued a dark warning to anyone like me who might dare to question the bill. In a Nov. 29 blog post, the LDP secretary-general likened any such challenge to “an act of terrorism.”

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“How can the government respond to growing demands for transparency from a public outraged by the consequences of the Fukushima nuclear accident if it enacts a law that gives it a free hand to classify any information considered too sensitive as a ‘state secret’?” Reporters Without Borders asked in a Nov. 27 statement. Essentially, the group argued, Japan “is making investigative journalism illegal, and is trampling on the fundamental principles of the confidentiality of journalists’ sources and public interest.”
“Welcome to the land of the setting sun. Let’s see how much darker it will get,” Tokyo-based investigative reporter Jake Adelstein wrote in a Nov. 30 Japan Times op-ed. As Adelstein pointed out, the secrecy bill bears a resemblance to Japan’s pre-World War II Peace Preservation Law, which gave the government wide latitude to arrest and jail individuals who were out of step with its policies. Parts of the bill also echo the George W. Bush-dikk Cheney power grab that was the Patriot Act.
Japan’s press-freedom ranking is already in free fall. In 2013, its standing dropped 31
places from 2012 to a new low of 53rd out of 179 countries, according to Reporters Without Borders. Japan now trails South Africa and the Comoro Islands off Mozambique. The main culprit behind this year’s drop was weak reporting on radiation risks at Fukushima — a problem that’s sure to get even worse as incentives for media self-censorship increase. If you think the powerful bureaucrats who really run Japan are too opaque with their fiefdoms and secret handshakes now, just wait.
What’s odd, and should greatly worry Japan’s 126 million people, is the urgency behind Abe’s push to pass the secrets bill. The prime minister hasn’t implemented a single structural reform in almost 12 months in office. Not one. He’s taken no important steps to deregulate, shake up or remake an overmanaged economy. But this particular legislation apparently needs to be passed, like, yesterday
.
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It’s up to the terrorists — sorry, concerned members of the public to speak out if they want to stop him.
(America is no different. In the U.S. today, peaceful protest is treated as terrorism.)
Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev says that the Chernobyl nuclear accident caused the collapse of the Soviet Union. Is the same thing happening to Japan today after the more severe Fukushima accident? After all, nuclear accidents can bankrupt entire nations
Maybe, but there are other forces at play as well. For example, the ruling party is trying to repeal the constitutional provision preventing Japan from waging war. As the Daily Beast notes:
Japan is about to take a giant step back into its oppressive past. When one also considers Prime Minister Abe’s stated ambition to restart Japan’s nuclear power plants and remove Article 9 from the constitution, the article which prevents Japan from waging war, it seems like the Empire of The Sun may be moving towards darker times.
Indeed, Japan is ramping up it’s bellicose actions regarding the Senkaku Islands, which – if someone makes a mistake - could erupt into a shooting war.
And – while Japan is widely referred to as a “liberal democracy” – its economy has largely devolved into crony capitalism … which is just another way of saying “fascism”.​
 
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