The economy is actually bad

[itsyoung!!]

The actual average price of chicken breast nationally is $4.17/pound.

Good thing I care about what chicken costs in Wisconsin while I live in California fukking weirdo. Why not bring up average cost of gas as well, knowing bumfukk idaho with population of 93 brings the average down? You always do this dumb shyt. Look guys crime or homelessness isnt bad in California because look at the average city knowing 80% of california lives in bad crime or homeless areas but that 20% in the 100 little cities in the hills and mountains bring the average down

Its $8.99/pound here

The topic was when the biggest transfer of wealth to the rich was. He was claiming it was the 2020-21 stimulus payments, while I was claiming it was Trump's 2017 tax cuts.

Its almost 2024. Complaining about trump fukking up in 2017 seems irrational.


What your dikk sucking liberal bytch ass even arguing in here? That the economy isnt bad? What the fukk you typing dissertations about in here? The thread is about the economy being bad. It is. This is facts. So what you in here arguing?

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Good thing I care about what chicken costs in Wisconsin while I live in California fukking weirdo

Its $8.99/pound here

WTF does that have to do with Biden? You think Biden is juicing chicken prices in San Francisco while letting Wisconsin off easy? It's bird flu, dumbass. Don't know how many times I have to break it to you. You've been making literally that exact same $8.99 claim for a year even though the national average is less than half that.

Is this your "boneless skinless vegetarian no hormones free range" chicken breasts again like you tried to post last time to deflect from Trump getting arrested?

Its almost 2024. Complaining about trump fukking up in 2017 seems irrational.

You're a moron. Cac Mamba claimed the stimulus checks were "The greatest transfer of wealth to the rich in history", and I pointed out that there'd been a bigger transfer just 3 years earlier.

Now if someone says, "That was the first time in history!", I can't go back just 3 years to correct him?

Don't be an idiot and jump into conversations where you don't even known was the subject is.

 

[itsyoung!!]

WTF does that have to do with Biden? You think Biden is juicing chicken prices in San Francisco while letting Wisconsin off easy? It's bird flu, dumbass. Don't know how many times I have to break it to you. You've been making literally that exact same $8.99 claim for a year even though the national average is less than half that.

Is this your "boneless skinless vegetarian no hormones free range" chicken breasts again like you tried to post last time to deflect from Trump getting arrested?









You're a moron. Cac Mamba claimed the stimulus checks were "The greatest transfer of wealth to the rich in history", and I pointed out that there'd been a bigger transfer just 3 years earlier.

Now if someone says, "That was the first time in history!", I can't go back just 3 years to correct him?

Don't be an idiot and jump into conversations where you don't even known was the subject is.

I never mentioned biden you bringing up your daddy when no one even mentioned him

I got some chicken just yesterday, you want more pictures? And yes its same chicken. Are you saying I should eat worse? Arent you about health?

Also you think the tax cuts in 2017 was a bigger wealth transfer than covid

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Also you think the tax cuts in 2017 was a bigger wealth transfer than covid

I know reading is a struggle, but pay attention. Yes, the Trump tax cuts were a bigger transfer to the rich than the stimulus bills were. Make sure you understand what we are talking about.

This was the breakdown: COVID Money Tracker


$2.2 trillion in money for people (stimulus payments, child and earned income tax credit, extra unemployment benefits, extra food stamps, etc.)

$1.5 trillion in business support, mostly small businesses (PPP loans, economic injury disaster loans, loosened rules on business losses)

$870 billion in support for state and local governments (covid program funding, extra education funding, extra medicaid funding, and general budget relief)

$700 billion in health care funding (some directly for various Covid programs like testing and vaccines, rest general grants for fiscal viability)

$500 billion in other support (disaster funding, housing, higher education support, payments to farmers, etc.)


So how can you claim that's a huge transfer to the wealthy? Fractions of it did go to the wealthy, but they are offset by larger fractions going to the middle class, working class, and poor. Therefore, on net it would be a transfer of wealth away from the wealthy.

That's not the impact of "Covid", obviously, just the impact of the stimulus bills. As I pointed out, look to the fed if you want to see who was helping the wealthy.



Meanwhile, Trump's $2 trillion tax cuts were undeniably tilted strongly towards the wealthy.

And that's just the individual tax rates. By far the largest portion of the tax break, at $1.3 billion, was the cut in corporate tax rates, which is even more slanted towards the wealthy.

 

[itsyoung!!]

I know reading is a struggle, but pay attention. Yes, the Trump tax cuts were a bigger transfer to the rich than the stimulus bills were. Make sure you understand what we are talking about.

This was the breakdown: COVID Money Tracker


$2.2 trillion in money for people (stimulus payments, child and earned income tax credit, extra unemployment benefits, extra food stamps, etc.)

$1.5 trillion in business support, mostly small businesses (PPP loans, economic injury disaster loans, loosened rules on business losses)

$870 billion in support for state and local governments (covid program funding, extra education funding, extra medicaid funding, and general budget relief)

$700 billion in health care funding (some directly for various Covid programs like testing and vaccines, rest general grants for fiscal viability)

$500 billion in other support (disaster funding, housing, higher education support, payments to farmers, etc.)


So how can you claim that's a huge transfer to the wealthy? Fractions of it did go to the wealthy, but they are offset by larger fractions going to the middle class, working class, and poor. Therefore, on net it would be a transfer of wealth away from the wealthy.

That's not the impact of "Covid", obviously, just the impact of the stimulus bills. As I pointed out, look to the fed if you want to see who was helping the wealthy.



Meanwhile, Trump's $2 trillion tax cuts were undeniably tilted strongly towards the wealthy.

And that's just the individual tax rates. By far the largest portion of the tax break, at $1.3 billion, was the cut in corporate tax rates, which is even more slanted towards the wealthy.

Tax cuts are not the same as pure money. It just means you pay less taxes and keep more money. Thats not a transfer.

Receiving $100 million in pure funds is worth more in reality than $100 million in tax cuts.

If you had the option to receive $50k, untaxable, tomorrow or receive $50k in tax cuts, you are taking the $50k

 

[Youhadasparkwhenustarted]

You are conflating two things , pandemic specific policy safety nets and the US economy. The US economy is in good shape, the US labor market is very strong, the last jobs report in august showed a gain of 187,000 jobs, the labor force participation rate is high meaning folks who want a job can find one and average hourly earnings are up as well and inflation is way down as well. The reason the pandemic policy safety nets like the child tax credit was renewed is due to unanimous opposition from all republicans in congress and a handful of democrats(sinema and joe manchin) to renew it, this programs were design to be temporary relief during the pandemic era

Good for everybody who heads the US empire, bad for the ones who serve as little more than fodder for it.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Service industry still strong low unemployment rate

Are you claiming unemployment is high in other industries?

 

[Lexington Steele]

Good for everybody who heads the US empire, bad for the ones who serve as little more than fodder for it.

"The economy" according to the people on television strictly means the vibes of the rich.

Your rent? Your grocery bill? Your gas tank? Your education costs? Your family? Your life? That's not the economy, sorry.

 

[The Pledge]

Everyone on social media is acting like they’re beyond paid though

I don’t know what to believe

 

[RicanFury]

WTF does that have to do with Biden? You think Biden is juicing chicken prices in San Francisco while letting Wisconsin off easy? It's bird flu, dumbass. Don't know how many times I have to break it to you. You've been making literally that exact same $8.99 claim for a year even though the national average is less than half that.

Is this your "boneless skinless vegetarian no hormones free range" chicken breasts again like you tried to post last time to deflect from Trump getting arrested?









You're a moron. Cac Mamba claimed the stimulus checks were "The greatest transfer of wealth to the rich in history", and I pointed out that there'd been a bigger transfer just 3 years earlier.

Now if someone says, "That was the first time in history!", I can't go back just 3 years to correct him?

Don't be an idiot and jump into conversations where you don't even known was the subject is.

lmao

 

[daemonova]

Good thing I care about what chicken costs in Wisconsin while I live in California fukking weirdo. Why not bring up average cost of gas as well, knowing bumfukk idaho with population of 93 brings the average down? You always do this dumb shyt. Look guys crime or homelessness isnt bad in California because look at the average city knowing 80% of california lives in bad crime or homeless areas but that 20% in the 100 little cities in the hills and mountains bring the average down

Its $8.99/pound here


Its almost 2024. Complaining about trump fukking up in 2017 seems irrational.


What your dikk sucking liberal bytch ass even arguing in here? That the economy isnt bad? What the fukk you typing dissertations about in here? The thread is about the economy being bad. It is. This is facts. So what you in here arguing?

 

[itsyoung!!]

but its only $3.99 in bumfukk alabama , population of 72 so the economy is good obviously because of this

 

[daemonova]

but its only $3.99 in bumfukk alabama , population of 72 so the economy is good obviously because of this

$4 is too high for gas, I paid that for plus, last week and still cringing

 

[Lexington Steele]

The people telling you "the economy is fine actually" are either doing well themselves or they're annoying strivers who think "gosh, sure is embarrassing temporarily not being a millionaire."

 

[Lexington Steele]

Here's the spin, btw. "Economy's fine, it's just bad vibes."