The Death Row Inmates... most were paid $5000 to sign contracts.

[TheRtist]

I know about that. You need to calm down. You sounding way too emotional like anybody out here dissing your fam or coming at you.

That quote from Yella doesnt say a thing wtf. Technically Dre produced being that engineering & "finesses", as you said, can be seen as producing. You claimed he was a beatmaker, a producer and also a "OG status finesser" (smh)..but where's your proof?

You really asking ME to show YOU proof when you can just type it on Google/Youtube and look throughout his history who've he worked with. It aint nothing new. Its been said since the Death Row days. But you not showing me ANY proof other than your own perceptions & a Yella quote..and "credits" lmao. Thats the point thats been made. Credit = facts to you?

DJ Quik has spoken about it, Chris The Glove, Warren G, Daz, even Snoop (and stated what i said in my EARLIER post in the thread!), Suge, 2pac ...should i really continue?

You obviously hold Dre in such a high regard to where you're reacting emotionally almost. So you're already decided in your head on whats right so theres really no point in

none of them were around during the Ruthless era (10+ years 10 plaques). Dre was OG status before any of their careers even were thought of. That makes your point null and void.

You dont know what you are talking about.

That quote from Yella doesnt say a thing wtf. Technically Dre produced being that engineering & "finesses", as you said, can be seen as producing. You claimed he was a beatmaker, a producer and also a "OG status finesser" (smh)..but where's your proof?

^^ 8:38

"Boyz In Da Hood" Dre made the beat.

 

[tuckgod]

let someone bitter about not being regarded as legendary as Dre re-write history brehs

He didn't rewrite anything. It's damn near common knowledge that Dre has been a glorified engineer for the last 20 years.

 

[TransJenner]

Erotic D produced or at least gave dre samples on the final NWA record

 

[Dr.HannibalLecter]

But back to my first point - mixing.

Take this song:


Produced by Gotti & Lil' Rob, but still sounds like a Dre beat from that year (1999), esp the mixing & how the bass sounds.

Worst beat on 2001 >>> this

 

[TheRtist]

Erotic D produced or at least gave dre samples on the final NWA record

oh wow so when Ruthless was already worth 10 mil Dre started to bring in collaborators outside of Yella

I guess that discredits everything

 

[DarkmanX]

none of them were around during the Ruthless era (10+ years 10 plaques). Dre was OG status before any of their careers even were thought of. That makes your point null and void.

You dont know what you are talking about.







^^ 8:38

"Boyz In Da Hood" Dre made the beat.

..how am i confused about proof of MY POINTS. Who said anything about "only Ruthless"? I said the sayings started during the Death Row days, no? And then you wanted some proof of people who've called him out. And when i give it to you you talking about "well, they had nothing to do with Ruthless"?

fukk is you talking about? I brought them up to tell you people whom have made those claim about him. So what you're telling me is that because of the Wreckin Cru & NWA stuff YOU SAYIN he FULLY produced (even tho he didnt), that should discount the other arguments pertaining to the REST of his catalouge spanning from 1992-now?

And then this dude wanna talk about null & void.

 

[DarkmanX]

Worst beat on 2001 >>> this

U think so? I like it.

But that has nothing to do with why i posted it tho.

 

[TheRtist]

..how am i confused about proof of MY POINTS. Who said anything about "only Ruthless"? I said the sayings started during the Death Row days, no? And then you wanted some proof of people who've called him out. And when i give it to you you talking about "well, they had nothing to do with Ruthless"?

fukk is you talking about? I brought them up to tell you people whom have made those claim about him. So what you're telling me is that because of the Wreckin Cru & NWA stuff YOU SAYIN he FULLY produced (even tho he didnt), that should discount the other arguments pertaining to the REST of his catalouge spanning from 1992-now?

And then this dude wanna talk about null & void.

they started during Death Row days because that is when he really took in apprentice producers and mostly handled the overall direction of the song weather hands on or not. OF COURSE he had people doing beats for him them; thats typically what all top musicians do at a certain point in their career, open the door for the next generation.

My point is that people saying he had ghost producers during Death Row times does not mean Dre is not and didnt have an established record as a sole beatmaker/producer in music. He was already the man before he got other people their start.

 

[Nomad1]

These haters stay trying to discredit the GOAT. But his track record can't be disputed.

quick tha gawd is better than that fakkit dre

 

[BaRRyG]

Who produced "the wash" this nikka Andre made a toilet flushing, sound crazy.

 

[zayk35]

Why do ppl wanna discredit this man sooo much when its undisputed who THE best producer hip hop ever produced period come on now....you think Phil Spector played everything on his "Wall of Sound"

 

[pawdalaw]

If we going back to Ruthless, Hutch and Cold 187em already spoke on the matter. Dude has to pretty much not know the history of Ruthless to have that stance. Chris the Glove has been around since the "Breaking" soundtrack. We talking early 80s, before ruthless.

Ruthless was full of producers like DJ Slip and Unknown, Arabian Prince, ect. i'm not trying to discredit Dre either. He does what he does. But from the World Class Wrecking Crew to his very last work he has had a side man. Doing part and/or all of the work.

 

[Originalgangsta317]

$5k for an opportunity to work with Dre in his prime and be as big as Snoop without selling a record before hand.

I'll take it.

 

[DarkmanX]

they started during Death Row days because that is when he really took in apprentice producers and mostly handled the overall direction of the song weather hands on or not. OF COURSE he had people doing beats for him them; thats typically what all top musicians do at a certain point in their career, open the door for the next generation.

My point is that people saying he had ghost producers during Death Row times does not mean Dre is not and didnt have an established record as a sole beatmaker/producer in music. He was already the man before he got other people their start.

Right, but i dont remember saying anything about ghostproducers, right? All i said was that i believe Dre is more of a mixer & a finesse-er of production, but not a beatmaker. I also posted an example ("Watch Me" by Jay-Z). Song sounds exactly like a typical Dre beat from that time but
its really produced & made by Irv Gotti & Lil' Rob. In that case both Gotti & Rob got the credit, but im pretty sure Dre mixed it.

Same with "Aint No Fun" - the original/demo version. Think it was made by Warren or Daz.

A few other examples out there too.

 

[detroitwalt]

People been saying this shyt about Dre for years but yet people still go to him for beats. How coming they not running to these other people that supposedly really did all the work?