Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Neither do I.
I'm not sure I can fully express how disappointed I was in that bullshyt. I was hype when I first heard about it........then I saw it
I'll watch G1 Transformers before I watch that bullshyt.
The Creator of DBZ Hated Vegeta
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I'm not sure I can fully express how disappointed I was in that bullshyt. I was hype when I first heard about it........then I saw it
I'll watch G1 Transformers before I watch that bullshyt.
Brief Keef
Superstar
a lot of nikkas dont know that Goten Da Don was up next he was stronger than Goku & Gohan were at his age lil nikka first turned super saiyan at 3 years old 
What made it worst is that Goku was stronger than Vegeta off the strength of a superior training regime in the hyperbolic time chamber. It's ridiculous really. You want me to believe that Vegeta's training was that inferior to Goku's when just prior to that SSJ Vegeta had a higher power level than SSJ Goku?
Get the fukk outta here. Gohan fine, I'd buy into his hidden power shyt. But Vegeta stayed getting herbed.
I don't think you all understand, this dude Vegeta went from the most powerful SSJ to 4th place behind Goku, Gohan AND his own son Trunks in the span of like 3 days. Piccolo might have even been up there, I don't recall.
But worst of all, Trunks never had a legitimate master outside of Gohan who only had the time to teach him guerilla tactics (don't ask me how). This dude didn't have the battle experience and training expertise of Vegeta. He had just spent his life getting his ass kicked by the androids. Dude was Street Fighter status, literally.
Yet, somehow he was able to surpass his highly skilled and formally trained father Vegeta just like that? While Vegeta was still in his prime?
The Prince of all Saiyins stayed getting thrown under the bus. All this while all he was doing was paying homage to his father by refusing to call himself king.
Yea, I dont buy it either. The first time they fought on earth, Vegeta was clearly stronger than Goku. He would've ended him & blew Earth to shreds had Gohan not transformed. For him to end up so far behind Goku is
status. Vegeta had decades of battle experience, taking down loads of alien planets, compared to Goku just running around Earth. Vegeta had access to top notch training facilities, while Goku trained in some tiny ass village in Mainland China. Its bullshyt. They should've let Vegeta save the world once. Killing himself during the Buu saga would've been the perfect time 
I can believe Future Trunks being stronger. Future Trunks had spent his years sharpening his skills against the Androids, who were 10x stronger than anyone the characters in the regular storyline had faced at the time of the Frieza Saga. I think Future Trunks may have been stronger than Goku when he first arrived. On Namek, after Goku went SSJ1, I don't recall Goku immediately killing Frieza, it was a long drawn out battle. Trunks herbed that nikka within seconds
Artificial Intelligence
Not Allen Iverson
I hate the Vegetas new voice in the dvd versions.. almost makes me not want to finish watching the series.
Yea, I dont buy it either. The first time they fought on earth, Vegeta was clearly stronger than Goku. He would've ended him & blew Earth to shreds had Gohan not transformed. For him to end up so far behind Goku is
I can believe Future Trunks being stronger. Future Trunks had spent his years sharpening his skills against the Androids, who were 10x stronger than anyone the characters in the regular storyline had faced at the time of the Frieza Saga. I think Future Trunks may have been stronger than Goku when he first arrived. On Namek, after Goku went SSJ1, I don't recall Goku immediately killing Frieza, it was a long drawn out battle. Trunks herbed that nikka within seconds
that depends on when future trunks when super sayian though. he went when future gohan died. and ur right they were way stronger than frieza cuz he couldnt beat them at ssj level at that time either. Somehow when goku came back to earth he was stronger than trunks when beat frieza though.
The question is though how much was goku holding back on frieza when he went fought frieza on namek when he was ssj. whats more amazing is how the fukk goku get so strong training in that ship on that gravity level
when he powered up against ginyu he wasnt even full strength he said. he said he can go higher
Anyone ever watch the first dub where Freiza had the REALLY old librarian voice? shyt was creepy but effective.
As for Vegeta, his swag was over 9,000 when he first arrived. Power levels and abilities still meant something. nikkas had just BARELY defeated Raditz with his like 1500 power level then you got nikkas like Nappa and Vegeta waiting in the wings?
Vegeta should have died after Goku beat him the first time. What's the point of keeping a popular character alive just for the soul purpose of being an L machine. When that boy was crying at Freiza's feet, begging Goku to beat the big bully, it was over. Vegeta's swag levels were under -9000.
Oh and add me to the list of people that liked Majin Buu The fat one though. The skinny Buu was too generically evil for my liking. Kid Buu?
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As for Vegeta, his swag was over 9,000 when he first arrived. Power levels and abilities still meant something. nikkas had just BARELY defeated Raditz with his like 1500 power level then you got nikkas like Nappa and Vegeta waiting in the wings?
Vegeta should have died after Goku beat him the first time. What's the point of keeping a popular character alive just for the soul purpose of being an L machine. When that boy was crying at Freiza's feet, begging Goku to beat the big bully, it was over. Vegeta's swag levels were under -9000.
Oh and add me to the list of people that liked Majin Buu The fat one though. The skinny Buu was too generically evil for my liking. Kid Buu?
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Even after Goku went Super Saiyan, it was a long battle between him & Frieza...
Trunks killed him within 4 minutes. I think Trunks may have been a bit stronger than Goku was on Namek
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Even after Goku went Super Saiyan, it was a long battle between him & Frieza...
DBZ Kai - Frieza vs Goku Final Fight - YouTube
Trunks killed him within 20 seconds. I think Trunks may have been a bit stronger than Goku was on Namek
DragonBall Z - The conclusively death of Frieza - YouTube
This was like a year after Goku first went super saiyan. Remember that deadbeat father was out traveling around the universe. Dude learned instant transmission and shyt and still took his time. When he got back to earth, there was no clear way of defining that Trunks was stronger than him. Goku and Trunks had their little finger battle.
Why my dude Vegeta looked on
It's not fair.
Dude had the prince of all saiyans rocking pastel colored short-sleeved button-ups why Trunks and Goku were swagging. It's not right.
I hated those fukking episodes where it took Goku five episodes to travel five minutes.
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a lot of nikkas dont know that Goten Da Don was up next he was stronger than Goku & Gohan were at his age lil nikka first turned super saiyan at 3 years old
that's the kinda shyt that ruined the whole super saiyan deal. when Goku first reached it, the shyt was
but they turned it from somethin special to just meaningless and retarded. turnin that shyt on and off like a light switch 
multiple levels and shyt the shyt was mythical at first, now EVERYBODY know how to reach it??? lil nikkas that ain't mastered NOT pissin the bed but they got this locked down? 
fukk outta here
This was like a year after Goku first went super saiyan. Remember that deadbeat father was out traveling around the world. Dude learned instant transmission and shyt and still took his time. When he got back to earth, there was no clear way of defining that Trunks was stronger than him. Goku and Trunks had their little finger battle.
Why my dude Vegeta looked on
It's not fair.
Dude had the prince of all saiyans rocking pastel colored short-sleeved button-ups why Trunks and Goku were swagging. It's not right.
oh yea......i forgot about their fight. Trunks was still my dude though
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Coach Gully
Much Respect
fukking foolVegeta is and will always be known as a bum, his entire existence is based on being stronger then Goku even going as far as to damn near sell his soul to Babidi and give up everything.
wise prophet
All Star
It seems that officially, SSJ Goku was at 150 Million while 100% Freeza was at 120 Million, so Goku was holding back a bit. No official power levels after Namek tho.
Brief Keef
Superstar
yall seen this shyt 
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this is fake, this is dragonball heroes, an RPG video game in Japan