"The Chinese are not in Africa because they love Black people so much"Dr. George Ayittey interview

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Foreign capital + corrupt African government/local elite and piss poor money management = fail for Africans. Arabs, Europeans, or Chinese or even Romans. At some point people should stop blaming outside languages, customs, and religions and self asses the series of poor leadership or a seemingly flaw in a group. The world works on trade and negotiations and if you keep getting the shyt end of the deal with everyone then the common denominator is you.

Try diversifying your economies and expats sent to study and work abroad in other nations until retirement(or beyond); have them contribute to infrastructure. Instead of "spraying money" at weddings and showers and wearing 24K gold, selfishly keeping(flaunting) money amongst circles(neo-tribalism), go to the rural areas build school, invest in hospitals, and food. Almost 70% of African population live and work in the countryside so there is much potential in rural development instead of mining resources to build skyscrapers.

Hold leaders accountable and change the structure and culture to remove vestiges of colonialism and/or neocolonialism. Disturbing that the sub-Saharan nations are the fastest growing in population and still cannot manage themselves.
 
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My nikka @EastCoastNaga ain't got an ounce of trust for the chinese :wow:

Africa needs to pull it together :snoop:
Let a nikka like me be sitting on all the best resources :mjpls:
I'll flip the script on them yangs on some "No deal! Price same same! You hurry up and buy!" :ufdup:
I did the same shyt in the streets with the viets :martin:
But that's another story for another time :sas1:
 

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My nikka @EastCoastNaga ain't got an ounce of trust for the chinese :wow:

Africa needs to pull it together :snoop:
Let a nikka like me be sitting on all the best resources :mjpls:
I'll flip the script on them yangs on some "No deal! Price same same! You hurry up and buy!" :ufdup:
I did the same shyt in the streets with the viets :martin:
But that's another story for another time :sas1:

Damn right! Before white men were the enemy, our invaders always came from Asia.
:francis:
But nikkas are focused on PAAG's and would rather get finessed over some "POC all lives matter black-yellow alliance" bullshyt.
:snoop:
 

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Foreign capital + corrupt African government/local elite and piss poor money management = fail for Africans. Arabs, Europeans, or Chinese or even Romans. At some point people should stop blaming outside languages, customs, and religions and self asses the series of poor leadership or a seemingly flaw in a group. The world works on trade and negotiations and if you keep getting the shyt end of the deal with everyone then the common denominator is you.

Try diversifying your economies and expats sent to study and work abroad in other nations until retirement(or beyond); have them contribute to infrastructure. Instead of "spraying money" at weddings and showers and wearing 24K gold, selfishly keeping(flaunting) money amongst circles(neo-tribalism), go to the rural areas build school, invest in hospitals, and food. Almost 70% of African population live and work in the countryside so there is much potential in rural development instead of mining resources to build skyscrapers.

Hold leaders accountable and change the structure and culture to remove vestiges of colonialism and/or neocolonialism. Disturbing that the sub-Saharan nations are the fastest growing in population and still cannot manage themselves.

I been saying this. Glad people are starting to see it.
 

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The Chinese are doing what they are suppose to do. Why wouldn't they want to get the best deal possible for their families? The fear-mongering needs to stop and we need to look inward at our leaders and ask why they do not seek the best business deals for us?
 

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Foreign capital + corrupt African government/local elite and piss poor money management = fail for Africans. Arabs, Europeans, or Chinese or even Romans. At some point people should stop blaming outside languages, customs, and religions and self asses the series of poor leadership or a seemingly flaw in a group. The world works on trade and negotiations and if you keep getting the shyt end of the deal with everyone then the common denominator is you.

Try diversifying your economies and expats sent to study and work abroad in other nations until retirement(or beyond); have them contribute to infrastructure. Instead of "spraying money" at weddings and showers and wearing 24K gold, selfishly keeping(flaunting) money amongst circles(neo-tribalism), go to the rural areas build school, invest in hospitals, and food. Almost 70% of African population live and work in the countryside so there is much potential in rural development instead of mining resources to build skyscrapers.

Hold leaders accountable and change the structure and culture to remove vestiges of colonialism and/or neocolonialism. Disturbing that the sub-Saharan nations are the fastest growing in population and still cannot manage themselves.

The concept of the nation state is new in Africa and so most people are not really loyal to the country. It is an artificial identity and not organic. In most cases you have a bunch of disparate tribes grouped together by cacs. An ''elite'' would not really give a fukk about building a school in a rural village which he didn't have a connection with prior to colonialism.
 

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In most cases you have a bunch of disparate tribes grouped together by cacs. An ''elite'' would not really give a fukk about building a school in rural village which he didn't really have a connection with prior to colonialism.

If you frame it like that then yes but it ignores that its a better BUSINESS DEAL that would pay better dividends.

In America, dudes use to bang over colors but now you got nikkas who rock with each other from rival sets if it means money.
 

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If you frame it like that then yes but it ignores that its a better BUSINESS DEAL that would pay better dividends.

In America, dudes use to bang over colors but now you got nikkas who rock with each other from rival sets if it means money.

When you get paid to sign on the dotted line you're not too concerned about the details of the contract. You get your cut regardless. In fact you're likelier to get a bigger pay-off if the deal is shoddy. If it was a good deal for everyone then they have no reason to bribe you :skip:.
 

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=You get your cut regardless. In fact you're likelier to get a bigger pay-off if the deal is shoddy. I=.

See, this is where I disagree. These dudes are getting paid breadcrumbs. And only bad decision makers "aren't too concerned about the details" but we as people don't seem to care about putting these people's heads on a stake. Its been like that before European contact, too.
 

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See, this is where I disagree. These dudes are getting paid breadcrumbs. And only bad decision makers "aren't too concerned about the details" but we as people don't seem to care about putting these people's heads on a stake. Its been like that before European contact, too.

I agree. But there are entrenched elites with their hands firmly on the levers of power. Dislodging them would require a concerted effort from a cross-section of society but across Africa you have divisions based on ethnicity, tribe, religion. So if there is an uprising it will probably be split among those lines thus making it ineffective. That's why every uprising in African countries has a myriad of movements and groups with an alphabet soup of acronyms. shyt hits the fan and every crook rallies his people behind him.

This is why I'm open to the idea of breaking up these countries. We have to start from the ground up. Perhaps in the future there can be consolidation among the smaller countries.
 

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I agree. But there are entrenched elites with their hands firmly on the levers of power. Dislodging them would require a concerted effort from a cross-section of society but across Africa you have divisions based on ethnicity, tribe, religion. So if there is an uprising it will probably be split among those lines thus making it ineffective. That's why every uprising in African countries has a myriad of movements and groups with an alphabet soup of acronyms. shyt hits the fan and every crook rallies his people behind him.

This is why I'm open to the idea of breaking up these countries. We have to start from the ground up. Perhaps in the future there can be consolidation among the smaller countries.

Its a damn shame we are still slaves to archaic societal constructs that makes us food for the rest of the world..
 

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I been saying this. Glad people are starting to see it.
Lived in several countries as an expat, both US coasts, married a foreign national also a frequent traveler that isn't military so I speak from my :flabbynsick: hand experience and not vicariously through others research. I've observed those Chinese and Arab nationals (non OPEC) will arrive in a country, pool their resources , sleep in cots and have their own districts in a matter of a generation, if not small business owners they are working in administrivia at the very least in addition to sending money back to their Cantonese and Lebanese grannies(and not thots and Macy's polo shirts), it's no coincidence their their life expectancy reaches mid 70s. Arabs 1.5% of the US population, Asians are only 5% proving there is strength in money and networks, not numbers. Even the one's that come from money and lose it recoup quickly as they would rather die than live in poverty or at the mercy of other people.

Black people are poor managers of resources(people and finance), require instant gratification and believe babies come from love (i.e.don't plan families) and this behavior is genocidal especially when you know how inhumane and volatile things can be for people classified as non-White. Stop having kids "by accident"(Black Americans) or so that someone will take care of you/wipe your ass during old age (Africans).

The concept of the nation state is new in Africa and so most people are not really loyal to the country. It is an artificial identity and not organic. In most cases you have a bunch of disparate tribes grouped together by cacs. An ''elite'' would not really give a fukk about building a school in a rural village which he didn't have a connection with prior to colonialism.

Maps redrawn globally and nation-states are new to everyone, hence geopolitical maps, however why is it that a certain demographics can't get it together at home or abroad. Even those shyt ass Latin American nations ( notorious for corruption and shyt management) who unlike Africans, with a remaining indigenous population, significant mulatto population and White settlers are starting to get it together. Business is business. I don't like you to invest in your well being if it is a win for all of us, especially when I profit instead of begging foreign investors to take care of home. Iran and Armenia are newer states with similar yet distinct cultures and the ones in LA don't have major problems. Haitian Americans, with all their issues have a higher per capita income than sub-Subharan African immigrants. Should use those Western degrees and invest in AC electrical grids, plan their families with the right people, and care for their grandparents so they can increase their life expectancy global average instead of double wood. Pettiness and impulse behaviors are destructive. Morality has nothing to do with loyalty or chalk line drawn outside of your driveway.

List of ethnic groups in the United States by household income - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 

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Yes, i do know that. There still certain things he lacks knowledge about. Also, he should start with today rather than yesterday. For example the current situation in South Sudan, where no one is benefiting.

Yes, some project did take an immediate about face, while others is still ongoing or continuing. These days you don't see much Chinese in Khartoum in comparison to before as i heard. Nowadays you see mainly Arabs from the Gulf along with Sudanese businessmen who are investing in other ventures within the country, example agriculture and minerals.

I'm sure he's more up to date than most people seeing as though he's one of Africa's best economists. i just think he was giving context to the situation that's all.

From what I remember, the US had a trade embargo on Sudan, but I'm not sure about the south since they gained independence. But Sudan's biggest trade partners have been the Arab states, India, and Malaysia.
 
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