The Cavs Andrew Wiggins/Kevin Love Dilemma*Update* Deal is finalized

Should the Cavs trade Wiggins for Love?


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Peter Parker

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I really hope Love doesn't go to Cavs man

Charlotte finally has a squad and the east is finally becoming somewhat fair again, Love is just gonna bury my hopes of a good playoff run :sadbron:
 

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There is no "hypothetical" If they trade their assets for Love and do not get back Dieng they are fukked, period. There is no easy way to land a starting caliber center in the NBA, especially for teams over the cap.

And Love is statistically the worst rim protector in the NBA.
They don't need starting caliber and you exaggerate with Love. He's terrible but I'm sure you've seen him play he doesn't actually look that bad.

Miami won titles when Wade/Bron/Bosh were defensively elite, Kyrie/Bron/Love will not be a great defensive trio.

Miami couldn't even find an average starting level center, being over the cap like that limits options, especially with bigs because they get paid premium.
Bosh puts in a lot of effort on D but he was nothing like elite at Miami. Wade had lost another half step by last year and while not a sieve was an occasional worry. With Kyrie its a matter of discipline application so I wont write him off just yet. Love lacks the lateral movement and elevation to excel there but his rebounding is going to be a big factor whether people want to admit that or not.

The significance of Miami's run was that it showed you don't need a strong starting presence there to win it all. I wouldn't be quick to bet against Lebron doing it again with fresher legs with less than half the mileage backing him up.
 

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With James Jones and Mike Miller off the bench as his subs :russ: The Cavs would have terrible interior defense, and pretty shytty perimeter defense, but hey, they'd be able to score!

Bron would make a terrible GM, dude wanted the Cavs to trade for Jason Kidd at one point, like he and Kidd could ever play together :dead:
Everyone wants to be like Mike:mjpls:
 

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People are overlooking Lebron's letter. It's all right there. Nobody mentioned in the letter is going to be traded and the people not mentioned AB and AW are going to be moved. It's not rocket science here :comeon:
 

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My thing is why would the Cavs be willing to give up Wiggins if GS isn't willing Thompson in a Love trade

You actually have a point here..as long as were able to offer the best deal which to me would be waiters/bennett/protected 1st, Haywood for Love because I'm assuming GSW are offering Lee, Barnes, green.
 
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Kevin Love and Kyrie are the 2 most overrated players in the league:mjlol: even if Love goes there the Cavs arent winning shyt.. they may make the finals but they aint winning a chip, them nikkas never even been to the playoffs before.. at least Wade and Bosh had that experience before the big 3(shyt Wade had a ring)

Trading Wiggins would be dumb as fukk, especially if Wiggins pans out.. that'd be like trading Lebron in 03 for Jermaine Oneal or some shyt
 

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People are overlooking Lebron's letter. It's all right there. Nobody mentioned in the letter is going to be traded and the people not mentioned AB and AW are going to be moved. It's not rocket science here :comeon:

:russ: That is also true...don't know why he had waiters in it...
 

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His PnR defense was elite, his team defense was elite and most importantly he's been playing out of position at the 5 for 3 years now.
Point taken he excels as a help defender, but to me he's not in the stratosphere of those we call 'elite' and as you say its hard to be when you're playing out of position :ld:
 

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I mean shyt they better take this waiters/Bennet package and make it do what it do,

While the Cleveland Cavaliers may be open to at least allowing the name of Andrew Wiggins to be mentioned in trade talks with the Minnesota Timberwolves, nothing on the Cavs' end has changed.

They are still very determined to keep Wiggins for a long time, multiple sources told FOX Sports Ohio on Thursday.

Wiggins was the No. 1 overall pick in the June draft. His name has come up frequently as someone the Timberwolves would want in return for star power forward Kevin Love.

Wiggins is one thing, but when the Timberwolves start talking Wiggins, Tristan Thompson and multiple first-round picks for Love ... well, the discussion doesn't get very far.

So the bottom line is the Cavs and Timberwolves do not have a deal, and from the sounds of things, aren't even close.

Talks between the teams were ongoing Thursday evening, sources said.

But the Cavs aren't taking a potential trade of this magnitude lightly. They believe Wiggins has tremendous upside, and at 6-foot-8 with great athleticism, he can step in and provide defense on the wing while developing.

Plus, even as remarkable as Love is, the Cavs have to consider the fact adding him to the roster completely changes the complexion of the team yet again. It could change in a good way, of course, but the chemistry and continuity often count for a lot in this league.

Love is 6-foot-10 and averaged 26.1 points and 12.5 rebounds last season. He is entering his seventh year.

He has indicated he will not sign a contract extension with the Timberwolves at the end of 2014-15, making him a free agent and putting the T-Wolves at risk of losing him for nothing. While the Cavs believe LeBron James returning to the team increases the odds to sign Love, there have been no official assurances from anyone. It is too soon for those, actually.

On top of not wanting to trade Wiggins (or Dion Waiters, for that matter), the Cavs have other things to consider with Love.

Star point guard Kyrie Irving has already agreed to a contract extension -- and James' contract, of which he can opt out next summer, will certainly be huge moving forward.

So the Cavs will almost certainly face salary-cap ramifications if Love is acquired, as the deals of Irving, James and a player such as Love would be a massive undertaking. In that scenario, the Cavs would own three maximum contracts and financial penalties would likely follow.

The alternative would be to hold on to younger players such as Wiggins, Dion Waiters and Anthony Bennett -- all of whom are on cheaper rookie deals, which would not only help the Cavs stay under the salary cap, but allow them to maintain depth on the roster.

These are all things the Cavs are believed to be considering as talks continue.

Doubles Dribbles

-- Both Wiggins and Bennett will play for the Cavs' summer-league team on Thursday night in Las Vegas.

-- After signing a pair of free-agent perimeter shooters in Mike Miller and James Jones, the Cavs are still interested in Ray Allen. The 39-year old shooting guard is contemplating retirement but has said he's open to playing with James again if he returns. The two were teammates each of the past two years with the Miami Heat.

-- The Cavs are hoping to know what Allen decides by tomorrow, or the end of the weekend at the latest, sources said.

-- It is believed free-agent center Greg Oden has spoken with James, or the Cavs, or possibly both. The Cavs are said to have an interest in the former No. 1 overall draft pick (2007), but it is not known if they have contacted him or plan to at any time.
 
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