The brutal training of a Shaolin Monk (Amazing Photos)
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NZA
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i guess not. they do have people that may have trained with them and then went out into he world getting into some fights, but it looks like those kinds of guys may not know everything the real shaolin knows
i am curious about whether or not these guys benefit from not fighting. i suspect some of this training is really not practical. i understand that they dont want violence for violence' sake, but it would be great if they would send their best fighter into competition.
and you're right, nothing can stop basic biology, if you get caught the right way and have your brain bouncing around your skull, it is lights out
ExodusNirvana
Change is inevitable...
Nah. WuShu fighters in China would get bodied the most.
Those dudes are strictly performance artists. They practice a lot of form but can't fight because all those old ways are gone. No Mowgli shyt, but the average martial artist period would give them that work because they simply don't fight like other arts and systems do.
In 2004 about 100 or so of the temple members of my school went to China to visit my Grandmasters old village to donate some things and see where he grew up. Some of the WuShu practitioners were dumbstruck at not only at the fact that Americans were training in traditional KF but that it was nothing like the WuShu they do. Traditional KF, when trained proper looks nothing like that, is not very flowery, and not as acrobatic.
I mean someone like me or Kool G can watch their form and see the techniques and application but who is there to teach THEM that. Really no one. Blame the Chinese government on that one.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Yep, haha. Those dudes are athletic, and sometimes impressive, but most of them dont really know much about fighting at all. If you want to see competition fighting in China, just watch Sanda or something lol.
competition fighting=/=civilian self defense=/=military self defense=/=performance art
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Applications from one of the 'real Shaolin' styles, Xin Yi Ba (what I practice is a descendant of this)
BasketCase
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You can't get good at fighting without actually fighting. What they're able to do with their bodies is impressive but they're not fighters.
nineteeneightysix
Banned
harden your body to those levels alone will automatically make you capable of beating the shyt out of almost anybody
a real karate school is extremely hard to find especially in America, so I severely doubt there are any legit Shaolin Monks in the United States
getting into fights when their art is not for competition but self defense.
A lot of dojo's in America have demostrations of people breaking bricks with their feet and hands, but those guys actually be dudes from entirely
different schools, who go through entirely different types of training. So you got kids thinking they about to learn that shyt, but if parents actually saw the training methods needed to be a karate master they wouldn't let their kids take the shyt. I mean you literally got get punched in solar plexus everyday, kicked in the balls, beaten with sticks in all the soft areas on your body, you literally have to forge your body into a hard weapon in order to even use karate
a real karate school is extremely hard to find especially in America, so I severely doubt there are any legit Shaolin Monks in the United States
getting into fights when their art is not for competition but self defense.
A lot of dojo's in America have demostrations of people breaking bricks with their feet and hands, but those guys actually be dudes from entirely
different schools, who go through entirely different types of training. So you got kids thinking they about to learn that shyt, but if parents actually saw the training methods needed to be a karate master they wouldn't let their kids take the shyt. I mean you literally got get punched in solar plexus everyday, kicked in the balls, beaten with sticks in all the soft areas on your body, you literally have to forge your body into a hard weapon in order to even use karate
I guess you haven't really seen wushu fighting wise. It's alot of art and performing but this isn't Chinese Opera School. These wushu fighters are trained in actual fighting which includes Chinese Boxing. Well known Wu-Shu Master Pan QingFu known as "Young Tiger" captured 23 Triad members with his barehands in the 60's. So it can be applied....the sad thing is that entertainment of martial arts has sensualize fighters as these invincible people when no holds barred fighting is different from rules.
Im not disagreeing with you on your 2nd part because alot of old skool Chinese Masters were taught by Chinese Opera stars who created their styles off aerobatic overtones. Then you have masters who were taught the real deal Holyfield to their students. It's the same here in America. It's based on appliance to the modern world. Once you dismiss your opponents ability to fight based off his style, you will lose the fight.
Here are some Wushu fighters...and self defense. Chin Na is the shyt.
GetInTheTruck
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No offense bruh, but you sound like a corny know it all with all that "my styles better than yours" shyt. I'm sure there are people out there who shyt on whatever it is your "master" is teaching you
I thought martial arts was supposed to teach humility, guess not.
Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Not at all. Me and Exodus are right. in todays terms Wushu is government sanctioned performance art that has been de clawed. In earlier years, it was a catch all general term for martial arts, but basically it amounts to floor routines now, so much so that now people refer to their full contact schools as 'guoshu' instead. As for being a know it all, uhhhh ok. Think what you wanna think.No offense bruh, but you sound like a corny know it all with all that "my styles better than yours" shyt. I'm sure there are people out there who shyt on whatever it is your "master" is teaching you
I thought martial arts was supposed to teach humility, guess not.
BasketCase
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You got proof of this? Hardening your skull by banging your head into objects is a terrible idea and will not prevent your brain from bouncing around, hitting the inside of your skull, and going to sleep when you get hit in the head.
If anything, banging your head into objects reduces your ability to take a hit to the head. Look at Chuck Liddell for example. He used to have a chin made of iron but excessive punishment turned that chin into glass. His chin got weaker and weaker the more it got hit and he's far from the only one this has happened to.
- You can't harden your arm to prevent it from being broken by an armbar.
- You can't harden your leg to prevent it from being broken by a leglock.
- You can't harden your neck to prevent your brain from shutting off due to a blood choke. The human brain needs blood to function.
There's nothing magical about this. You can't be a good fighter unless you actually fight just like you can't be a good football player unless you actually play football.
Are you implying that shaolin monks practice karate? This is news to me.
In a real martial arts schools you fight everyday, but before they have to harden the sensitive areas of your body because you won't be able to withstand
the punishment your about take
Armbars, leglocks, and holds like that are not exclusive to MMA man every martial arts as these types of holds and many more deadlier ones
As a matter of fact the school I'm talking to fight anybody off the street at any giving time no matter what style,
A real karate master would destroy any MMA guy period no contest kill him
you stupid fukk body hardening is apart of all serious martial arts thats what I'm getting at
the blocks and strikes to you see demostrated in martial arts will not work unless the body is harden, a real karate dude would break you arm just by throwing a block
thats how strong these dudes bodies get because of the training I seen it myself
these dudes even harden the solar plexus which is a weak part of the body I thought was impossible to harding
the karate school I'm talking about in particular taught jiujutsu, kenpo, as well, and these dudes don' have jobs they just train
and train people for free only taking donations,
those UFC guys are athletes they will get fukked by a real marial artist because them nikkaz are crazy, one of his the sensei's sons showed me there family sword, and I take it out
the sheath, the father came and took the sword from and cut his arm, and said the sword craves blood, you can't unsheathe it without taking blood.Like this dudes is really on that tip.
