The Blueprint and Blueprint 2 both outsold stillmatic and God son. Where did the narrative that Nas won come from?

[Fresh]

Jay Z lost the battle with Nas when Ether hit

Jay selling more records than Nas is irrelevant

and I actually like Jay more than Nas, but it is what it is, Nas won the battle

it trips me out when some people say Nas won the battle, but Jay Z won the war

 

[UnQuantized]

Nas won period, deal with it

 

[prophecypro]

Same way Pusha didn’t need sales for ppl to say he won vs Drake

 

[iamduval]

“Narrative that nas won”

There’s literally countless threads filled with “nas lost” posts


It’s been over 20 years. Let it go

 

[Higher Tech]

Since when has album sales determine who won a hip-hop battle?

Exactly

 

[Controversy]

The italic is a damn lie.

Do you think BP2.1 is released if BP2 wasn't considered a disappointment in real time

 

[Greenhornet]

both blueprints kind of mid honestly

 

[Awesome Wells]

Nas won the battle.

I don’t think there's ever been any question about that. And I think if Hov were being honest, he would say he lost that too. That was just some good Hip Hop sh*t going on. 2 MC's going at it with records, and Nas got him. Jay didn't expect that kind of a reply. And it was mad out of character for Nas, which made it so crazy back then.

Jay's excelled at pretty much everything else he's done musically, and in business, definitely financially. So he's had a lot more wins than Nas in a lot of other areas, but when it comes to that moment in Hip Hop history, as fans, I think we can all agree that Nas left that situation with the W. It happens to the best of them. Every legend in Hip Hop had to take some kind of L at one point or another. "Ether" was Hov's.

 

[Nabs]

Spoken Word Hov got the fukk Nas machine flowing this weekend

 

[Art Barr]

The same wack jiggy idea.
that sales equates to quality.
in hiphop culture and its business.
derived from the poverty based and rooted mores and norms.
rooted in the culture of hiphop.



Art Barr

 

[O.Red]

Ya'll ain't tired of the Jay-Z verse Nas war yet? It's 3-5 threads on this shyt every week


Them nikkas been friends for 20 years at this point

 

[ThirdAct]

arguing about 2001 Nas and Jay album sales in 2024

 

[YakSpiller]

TheColi in syndication.

More reruns than The Fresh Prince.

 

[Jerz]

yo.. called em Gay Z. Nas jus killed em..

Them corny ass lines sound like sumn Cam'ron and Dipet would've said

 

[Handsome B. Wonderful]

I think 50 and Kanye started the trend historically...been downhill ever since.

Yes. This more specifically. But 50 cent started the infatuation with sales for fans.

Of course you want your favorite artists to be successful.

But it's just like wrestling. Why should a fan give a fukk how many seats a show sells?

Hate this fukking argument.