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[generic-username]

What group of people have 100% trans-generational continuity?

Majority of Africans. The average African has zero European DNA because they are actual "real" Black people

 

[Pit Bull]

why do some of you foreigners care so much about Americans opinions, shyt is weird af

Because they have low self esteem in relation to us and are obsessed with us. They yearn for our approval. Little brother syndrome. Imagine being the older brother but you still the little brother.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

What's the difference between Haitian Blackness and AA Blackness? I don't feel like reading all of that.

basically, afram "black" predates but lines up with the one drop rule and disregards phenotype as long as you have the genetic descent of africa while the code noir from france made haiti have 3 tier caste system

The Code Noir (The Black Code)

https://chnm.gmu.edu/revolution/d/335/

and the one in their constitution when they became a free nation isn't actually a race-genetic based label but one signify that all the citizens regardless of race, were Haitains (Polish for example are not "black" but they were noirs in haiti)


Race and the Haitian Constitution of 1805

“Disrupting any biologistic or racialist expectations,” Sibylle Fischer argues in Modernity Disavowed, “they make ‘black’ a mere implication of being Haitian and thus a political rather than a biological category.”[4] Not only did the label erase previous racial distinctions between “black” and “white” residents, it attempted to undermine the importance of national, linguistic, and color differences within the non-white population. “This new ‘black,’” Jean Casimir argues, “encompassed the various ethnic groups that had been involved in the struggle against the Western vision of mankind. Victory in adversity gave birth to this new character, which was a synthesis not only of Ibos, Aradas, and Hausas but also of French, Germans, and Poles.”[5]

The elimination of difference was important because, as Colin Dayan notes, “the most problematic division in the new Haiti was that between anciens libres (the former freedmen, who were mostly gens de couleurs, mulattoes and their offspring) and nouveaux libres (the newly free, who were mostly black), Dessalines attempted by linguistic means and by law to defuse the color issue.”[6]

Doris Garraway highlights Dessalines’s use of what she calls “negative universalism” in the constitution—an emphasis on what Haitians were not: “it is the excluded term—whiteness—that conditions the political definition of the collectivity, seen as its opposite, the ‘black’ other that was previously reproved by white power and that now symbolizes not a biological essence but an absolute resistance to white racial supremacy

The Spanish translation now held by the University of Pennsylvania Libraries promises to fuel the continuing scholarly attention to the 1805 constitution. For example, the document capitalizes “Negro” whereas the official printed copy issued by the Haitian government keeps “noirs” in lowercase. The Haitian Kreyòl word “nèg” refers to a person, regardless of skin color where as the word “blan” (derived from the French “blanc” or “white”) generally means “foreigner.” Given that Jean-Jacques Dessalines did not speak French fluently, did the 1805 constitution intend to label all Haitian citizens as “black” or as “people”? Or, did the 1805 constitution encourage the evolution of the term “noir” or “nèg” to signify the universality of all citizens?

Race and the Haitian Constitution of 1805

Social class in Haiti

In the colonial period, the French imposed a three-tiered social structure. At the top of the social and political ladder was the white elite (grands blancs). At the bottom of the social structure were the black slaves (noirs), most of whom had been transported from Africa. Between the white elite and the slaves arose a third group, the freedmen (affranchis), most of whom were descended from unions of slave owners and slaves. Some Mulatto freedmen inherited land, became relatively wealthy, and owned slaves (perhaps as many as one-fourth of all slaves in Saint-Domingue belonged to affranchis). Nevertheless, racial codes kept the affranchis socially and politically inferior to the whites. Also between the white elite and the slaves were the poor whites (pet*ts blancs), who considered themselves socially superior to the Mulattoes, even if they sometimes found themselves economically inferior to them. Of a population of 519,000 in 1791, 87 percent were slaves, 8 percent were whites, and 5 percent were freedmen. Because of harsh living and working conditions, many slaves died, and new slaves were imported. Thus, at the time of the slave rebellion of 1791, most slaves had been born in Africa rather than in Saint-Domingue.[1]

The Haitian Revolution changed the country's social structure. The colonial ruling class, and most of the white population, was eliminated, and the plantation system was largely destroyed. The earliest black and mulatto leaders attempted to restore a plantation system that relied on an essentially free labor force, through strict military control (see Independent Haiti, ch. 6), but the system collapsed during the tenure of Alexandre Pétion (1806–18). The Haitian Revolution broke up plantations and distributed land among the former slaves. Through this process, the new Haitian upper class lost control over agricultural land and labor, which had been the economic basis of colonial control. To maintain their superior economic and social position, the new Haitian upper class turned away from agricultural pursuits in favor of more urban-based activities, particularly government.[1]

The nineteenth-century Haitian ruling class consisted of two groups: the urban elite and the military leadership. The urban elite were primarily a closed group of educated, comparatively wealthy, and French-speaking Mulattoes. Birth determined an individual's social position, and shared values and intermarriage reinforced class solidarity. The military, however, was a means of advancement for disadvantaged black Haitians. In a shifting, and often uneasy, alliance with the military, the urban elite ruled the country and kept the peasantry isolated from national affairs. The urban elite promoted French norms and models as a means of separating themselves from the peasantry. Thus, French language and manners, orthodox Roman Catholicism, and light skin were important criteria of high social position. The elite disdained manual labor, industry, and commerce in favor of the more genteel professions, such as law and medicine.[1]

A small, but politically important, middle class emerged during the twentieth century. Although social mobility increased slightly, the traditional elite retained their economic preeminence, despite countervailing efforts by François Duvalier. For the most part, the peasantry continued to be excluded from national affairs, but by the 1980s, this isolation had decreased significantly. Still, economic hardship in rural areas caused many cultivators to migrate to the cities in search of a higher standard of living, thereby increasing the size of the urban lower class.[1]

John
Haiti does not abide by the one drop rule. Far from it! The racist hatred against the dark-skinned Haitian masses from the wealthy business mulatto, Middle Eastern (primarily Syrian and Lebanese), and white French elites is like Apartheid era South Africa.

Until the 1960s, with the rule of Francois "Papa Doc" Duvalier," a Black Haitian my complexion (I'm the same color as the actor, Denzel Washington,) was not even seen in exclusive mulatto social clubs like the Bellevue, the Port-au-Prince Country Club, or any of the wealthy clubs in Petionville, just outside Port-au-Prince.

In Haiti it goes like this:
The elite: Blanc (white), mulatre (mulatto,) and post Duvalier several dark-skinned Blacks have joined this class, but mulattoes still hold economic power.

Blanc: The word means white, literally, but there are many dark-skinned Haitian-Americans, Haitian-Canadians and Haitian-Europeans who return to Haiti with wealth and education acquired abroad, and paradoxically they are often referred to as "Blancs". Blanc also refers to white foreign wives and husbands of Haitians who have moved to Haiti. Dominicans living in Haiti of any complexion are usually called Dominicain.

Griffe: A light skinned mulatto, usually with green or hazel eyes. Hair can be wavy or curly.

Marabout: A very dark brown "black" person with European features and naturally straight hair. They are NOT considered to be the same as a "black".

Negre: A Black person. They comprise the masses of Haitians. It is practically unheard of for a "negre", a "noir," to marry a mulatre or a griffe UNLESS that negre has lots of money and comes from a Black elite family.

http://afroeurope.blogspot.com/2012/12/video-black-in-caribbean-race-and-class.html

 

[IllmaticDelta]

One more thing the average AA is like 15 to 25 % European. How can a group that is not even 100% Black define what "Black" is?

your question is exactly why it's easy to tell the modern "black" that we use is from the afram concept/experience and the one that has spread around the world and is different from the european "negro"

 

[MoroccanBoy]

You never sent me your parole officers info, or any of that other lovely information.

Mr child pimp, on a message board that minors use. (Been an admin on boards just as active as this one...shyt be happenin..)

And mods were informed and saw the post and you're still here

Some shyt ya just shouldn't joke about.


You'd be best to just lay low.

I finiches my probation last month. For various assault charges. Don't know why you are talking about a random hustle I did to make some money. That homosexual is still sucking docks yo this day. I just got paid off his disgusting behaviour.

 

[MoroccanBoy]

You think you are smart but until you are in ground zero of white supremacy which is America, that logic that you are using is useless. I used to be like that too 15 years ago. Reality is, this country is the HQ of white supremacy. It's to current Roman Empire and what they says goes regardless if you like it. That goes for any group of people, especially modern day Moroccans

Modern day moroccans are nothing like my family. They don't look alike in any way. You have to go into the desert and certain areas to find native berbers like my family.

 

[MoroccanBoy]

@MoroccanBoy


i see that's part of your culture.

None of those people in the video have anything to do with my tribe or my area lol. They literally look like the arabs from Lebanon that I was talking about. They aren't indegenous moroccans and don't visit the area that I'm from. What are you talking about

 

[MoroccanBoy]

Why are African americans in negs calling me an invader. I have lineage and if you can tell me your tribe and I can tell you if you had any history in my area of Morocco. We aren't arabs moroccans originated from Lebanon. The Arab moroccans don't even speak our dialect and don't live in my area. You seem very confused.

your ancestors weren't bought over from my area so you can't claim my part of Morocco talking about I'm an invader when 1. We are indegenous to that area 2. This is not your land u are west and central African.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

You have a white mom and you were born in the UK. Half of you IS an invader.
The average Afram/Cac mix is darker and blacker than you...so all those indigenous genes might be pre mixed, too. You look like a pale whiteboy...Not like a Drake...or one of the Ball family...or a Brazil breh.
You white.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I call it naive. I have a cousin in the UK who about the Libyan slave thing prefaced it by saying "I'm not about race but" as if that was something to be proud of in a world of anti blackness.

I can't with a lot of non-american blacks. they are naive and often late as fukk.

Most don't understand white supremacy.

more importantly, they don't understand white american racism

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Like I've said before breh.. Keep that shyt directed to the circle of 5-6 Coli nikkas who have an entirely different motive than AA awareness. They don't gaf about being AA or any of that shyt. It's about Southern pride and likening themselves to White people(seperating themselves from other blacks). We are NOT about that, that's these nikkas lol.

It's not "AA dudes". That's them nikkas.

and it's almost exclusively on TheColi.

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

more importantly, they don't understand white american racism

Island blacks and Continentals see whites as "nice beneficiaries" if they're "from home"...because they rarely see white dysfunction, only black dysfunction and abuse of authority. Many only meet white vacationers or missionaries...Probably got a few dollars a few times.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

I know it's exclusive on here.


I've never see anyone, not even on youtube, meticulously conflate AAs to be the global ambassadors of "blackness".



These are levels of narcissism..

there are way too many examples and instances to prove you wrong

 

[DeuceCypherUno]

My bad. Didn't realise indegenous moroccans who have been here since the beginnin in of written history were white people lol. You are cnfusing arabs and Berbers This is what I'm talking about. You Americans are clueless and have never even been outside your shythole of a country

"shythole" yet people break laws just to step foot in here.


L

 

[Indiglow Meta (R$G)]

there are way too many examples and instances to prove you wrong

He's just mad because "his country" is pretty much de-facto run by the Clinton Foundation, US Army, UN, and the Red Cross.
"Fight for freedom", get half your shyt took by high yellow nikkas...and maintain a caste system that worships the same type of brehs, keeping them in power and money forever.
We don't have different social strata based on skin tone. Why do y'all?
Oh, wait...here comes "REAL AFRICAN BREH" to save you with Voudon...and what happened with that? Tonton Macoutes....getting chopped up at night, and moving to the USA to live among US.