The Birth Of The "De-Americanized" World

[Beegio]

You sound like meathead. You probably think you "got me" yet you made yourself look like an idiot without any real reading comprehension. Go back and read my first post and feel like the idiotic, incapable fakkit that your are.

 

[Poitier]

Homo stop quoting me.

 

[Beegio]

Homo stop quoting me.

 

[Vandelay]

I've come to realize China's not gonna run the world...but it wouldn't hurt to learn Mandarin in the next few years.


Stupid politicians don't realize its about to be BRIC city in this biatch.

 

[FAH1223]

china's growth is a function of china adopting american economic practices, in other words its the chinese that are becoming more american

in other words the world is not becoming de-americanized anytime soon

The thing is, this is not how they think, and it is not within their capabilities. China is surrounded by powerful countries that can be troublesome even if it reached US hyperpower status.The Chinese view themselves as the middle country, the center of the world, i.e. balancing along with other powers into a harmony.

The US on the other hand, is surrounded by what? Mexicans to the south who are useless and disorganized. Canada, a benign sibling to the north, and 2 big oceans to the left and right. The US hasn't had immediate threats from its neighbors to be concerned about. Which is why the USA was free to roam the world looking for trouble, markets, influence, police the world, etc...

The Chinese simply want to be the center of the world by balancing against everyone else, they do not need to go around the world looking for trouble,
they will manouver everyone else so that markets, influence and power comes to them.

Well, historically that has been their way.

They also do not want the Yuan to be the world currency just one of the world's reserve currencies. They want the Bretton Woods system of 1945-1971.

Its impossible and undesirable for them to want their currency to be the premier one.

 

[Poitier]

China's growth is already slowing. If they ever got big enough to where they could not have any organic growth industries, they would resort to fake wars and for profit prisons, as well. Our world institutions need to be reconfigured, currency needs to be rethought.

 

[theworldismine13]

The thing is, this is not how they think, and it is not within their capabilities. China is surrounded by powerful countries that can be troublesome even if it reached US hyperpower status.The Chinese view themselves as the middle country, the center of the world, i.e. balancing along with other powers into a harmony.

The US on the other hand, is surrounded by what? Mexicans to the south who are useless and disorganized. Canada, a benign sibling to the north, and 2 big oceans to the left and right. The US hasn't had immediate threats from its neighbors to be concerned about. Which is why the USA was free to roam the world looking for trouble, markets, influence, police the world, etc...

The Chinese simply want to be the center of the world by balancing against everyone else, they do not need to go around the world looking for trouble,
they will manouver everyone else so that markets, influence and power comes to them.

Well, historically that has been their way.

They also do not want the Yuan to be the world currency just one of the world's reserve currencies. They want the Bretton Woods system of 1945-1971.

Its impossible and undesirable for them to want their currency to be the premier one.

im not even sure what you are talking about, the chinese can think of themselves however they want but their success is predicated and a function of them adopting american knowledge

the chinese have not shown that they have a better economic system than the american economic system, until they do, or anybody does for that matter, america will not be replaced

 

[FAH1223]

China's growth is already slowing. If they ever got big enough to where they could not have any organic growth industries, they would resort to fake wars and for profit prisons, as well. Our world institutions need to be reconfigured, currency needs to be rethought.

This is true. Makes you wonder when they'll flip the switch to exploiting labor in other countries.

Modest boost last quarter but the economy is still only growing above 7.5%

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/asia-...bound-economic-growth-201310183263953134.html

10 million jobs

The International Monetary Fund is forecasting Chinese growth this year of 7.6 percent, which would be the weakest performance since the early 1990s, and some private sector analysts have cut their growth forecasts for next year to below 7 percent.

In a positive sign for the ruling party, Sheng said the economy created 10 million jobs in the first three quarters of the year.

 

[FAH1223]

im not even sure what you are talking about, the chinese can think of themselves however they want but their success is predicated and a function of them adopting american knowledge

the chinese have not shown that they have a better economic system than the american economic system, until they do, or anybody does for that matter, america will not be replaced

Here's the thing though. They may have adopted economic policies from here but they're going about it differently. They don't have the issue parasites of financiers and corporations who have taken over their politics to the teeth. The Yuan will increase in value and the Chinese are printing more and putting it in the pockets of ordinary Chinese in the form of wage increases and public infrastructure investment.
This is the Chinese and Japanese example of "quantitative easing", except unlike the US and UK, the money is not disappearing into the reserves of the banks that are too big to fail, but are flowing into loans and investments fueling jobs and growth.

 

[theworldismine13]

Here's the thing though. They may have adopted economic policies from here but they're going about it differently. They don't have the issue parasites of financiers and corporations who have taken over their politics to the teeth. The Yuan will increase in value and the Chinese are printing more and putting it in the pockets of ordinary Chinese in the form of wage increases and public infrastructure investment.
This is the Chinese and Japanese example of "quantitative easing", except unlike the US and UK, the money is not disappearing into the reserves of the banks that are too big to fail, but are flowing into loans and investments fueling jobs and growth.

here is the thing, the chinese economy is completely dependent on america and america's parasitical financiers and american corporations, so the thing is you are pretty much just babbling, the chinese arent doing anything differently unless you are talking about government owned banks, that is the only real difference, but government owned banks have their own problems

china's growth is limited because while they have adopted american economic ideas they havent adopted american social ideas, which in turn limits the individual freedom of the chinese citizen which in turn limits their creativity

freedom and creativity is the magic sauce that made the US #1, if you dont have that you aint got nothing

 

[Poitier]

 

[Spidey Man]

The American military is so powerful it handicaps itself in conflicts, and that's a fact. If bush waged all out war, Iraq would be a parking lot, and that's avoiding using nukes. The only thing stopping China from seizing an island less than a hundred miles away, is the threat of a country thousands of miles away.

As for a de Americanized world. The united States is set to become the latest energy exporter passing Saudi Arabia, and China is set to become the largest importer. They are about to get bogged down in middle East oil conflicts, and even if they manage those well, they got Russia, Japan, and India as neighbors. All of those countries don't have a favorable view of the dragon.

 

[mbewane]

To be real those wars are just dog and pony shows to get contracts for the military industrial complex to keep bringing in bank
in reality, our military can still blow anybody else out the water if it came down to it, only countries who have navies who can rival ours are allies
so how they can even threaten America if they can't get here
our air force is superior to everyone else in worlds, the military strength of America is the only reason the country is still relevant

I agree that in theory the US military surpasses any other military, but the reality on the ground is that the US has not been able to secure clear-cut victories neither in Afghanistan, neither in Iraq.

And precisely, China is a US ally (at least economically) so it doesn't even have to worry about military power, and can focus on economic power while the US keeps subsidizing the industrial-military complex.