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The Bible Movie
- Thread starter smokeurobinson
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nah bruh i was just messing with you...
Obviously Jews do and did not accept those claims ... I'm missing your point? None of this can validate the divinity of Christ, nor whether his followers were actually deceived by Satan as you say is the case for the other deriving religions.
When you ask for validation Im not exactly sure what type of proof youre asking for.
If you are referring to intra-biblical evidence then be rest assured that Jesus himself claimed divinity
John 10:24-30
24 The Jews who were there gathered around him, saying, “How long will you keep us in suspense? If you are the Messiah, tell us plainly.”
25 Jesus answered, “I did tell you, but you do not believe. The works I do in my Father’s name testify about me,
26 but you do not believe because you are not my sheep. 27 My sheep listen to my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
28 I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish; no one will snatch them out of my hand.
29 My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all; no one can snatch them out of my Father’s hand.
30 I and the Father are one.”
There is that among many other passages alike which details or hints toward his Godhood.
But hold on...The same thing can be said about Christians who are waiting for the 2nd coming not accepting Muhammad. Just like the jews didnt accept Jesus the christians didnt accept Muhammad.
John 14:16 "And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever"
Now U said in your first statement "I believe the angel Gabriel who supposedly came across Muhammd in the cave was actually a fallen angel/demon" meaning its your own personal theory that u made up in your head...Its not the word of Jesus....So who am i to believe...Jesus or some mere mortal's theory?
Except you have to realize that Islam and Christianity arent truly compatible with one another. Your doctrine, while holding some grounds of similarity, holds a strong contradiction regarding to central issues surronding the nature of God.
The bottom line is Allah and Jehovah simply arent the same deities.
Secondly, Im going to assume you believe the verse you posted is a foretelling of the prophet Muhammed and if so then youre sadly mistaken. Its a reference to the Holy Spirit; its stated plainly in the following verse. There is no reason for it to be taken out of context.
Lastly, the Bible does foretells the arrival of many false prophets and teachers so the refrence to those "post christianic spin offs" as religions of satanic origin isnt off base in the slightest.
1 John 4:1-6
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see whether they are from God, for many false prophets have gone out into the world.
By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
Little children, you are from God and have overcome them, for he who is in you is greater than he who is in the world.
They are from the world; therefore they speak from the world, and the world listens to them. 6 We are from God. Whoever knows God listens to us; whoever is not from God does not listen to us. By this we know the Spirit of truth and the spirit of error
Slaimon Khan Shah
SLAIMON KHAN SHAH = SHAOLIN MONK/S OF ISLAAM
I'VE NEVER READ ABOUT ZAMHAREER/COLD/FILLED WITH ICE SNOW IN EITHER OF THE 2 ENGLISH TRANSLATIONS OF THE QURANS THAT I HAVE READ, OR IN ANY ISLAMIC BOOK THAT I HAVE READ.
well if u wanna be technical. I for one have a hispanic mother and know very well that interpretations can have different meanings. Unlike the Quran which has 2 popular versions..the Bible has many versions....some versions I myself have read and would conclude 2 different things of the same verse. Also , the king james version being created from the shakespearean era....where poetry and metaphors were very popular there is a great disregard for the metaphoric outlook of the Bible. for one to take it literally would mean to bend ones reality to fit a reality that doesnt exist. For instance faith tells u to believe that a mathru the power of God split a sea yet in our reality that doesnt exist. Man could never follow jesus literally because jesus was above human ability. But one can follow Jesus metaphorically which is more realistic. like for instance. Jesus had gods power and he used it for good liek healing the sick and rasing the dead. Now we as humans cant do what jesus did cuz we dont have those powers. but thats where the metaphorical aspect takes shape. if i had gods powers i would more then likely be selfish about it...i would probably use the powers to do evil....sorta in the same sense as the movie Bruce almighty...so the moral of the story looking at it metaphorically is....what good are u doing with your human powers? Do u use your mouth to speak good or bad? Do u use your hands to do good or bad? Why would u need gods power when u dont use your human powers for good? thats the metaphoric lesson in the story of Jesus christ. if i look at it literally i'd be unrealistic trying to follow a superman whos abilities i will never attain.
But wait....Remember the angel gabrielle is regarded by muslims as "The holy spirit" the same angel that inspired Muhammad. In this case it would be a one of those thinsg were the muslims believe one thing while the christians believe another.
But your just assuming Muhammad is in the line of those false prophets....u dont really know. Muslims say he is the 2nd coming and christians say no. looking at it objectively its either or as an option, a roll of the dice.
Mr. Somebody
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A serious film about the events in the Bible would probably be one of the greatest films in the history of humanity. Directed by Antoin Fukwah. 
TezMilli
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The whole point of Jesus coming to earth besides the obvious - dying to save mankind from sin, was to prove that man can live by God's law. Part of Satan's argument as Lucifer was that God's law was too hard for man to follow and man wouldn't do it willfully and with love. Since Adam failed in the Garden, Jesus was God's and mankind's last hope to disprove this claim.
As far as Jesus having powers, remember, he had a deep and close relationship with his Father. He prayed all the time and had sound communication with God. This communication, relationship, trust and willingness to let God lead him down this burdened path to the cross, allowed him to perform inhuman like miracles. And the fact he led what many believe to be a sinless life, this only allowed God to bestow even more abilities for him to perform.
Just consider all the prophets all had performed miracles earlier in the Bible, and it was possible because of their faith in God and living a christian life. The disciples did as well (Peter walked on water too). Now add being perfect to that and you've read what Jesus was able to do. The one man in the Bible besides Jesus to be considered perfect, Enoch, was so upright, God allowed him to ascend into heaven.
Lastly, what would be the point of sending a flesh and blood Christ to earth to be an example to all humans if we cannot follow in his steps? Can we perform the same miracles? Nope because I believe the time period we're in, that power which existed back then is gone, as God's Holy Spirit is being ascended from earth, as evidenced by the tragedies and destruction we see these days. Are we perfect? Far from it. But that's the reason he died so if we do fall short, we can ask for forgiveness.
I dont know about all of that.....After the flood God made it clear to Noah that man has perversions at youth....meaning that his creation called man will be naturally be rebelious......This is God admitting that Man wil defy God at will. He caused the flood because man was doing any and everything his heart desired.....He saw only Noah as the only reason to spare man but God pretty much put it out there that man as a majority will not follow gods will.
Jesus' communication with God had nothing to do with his superpowers...u say that as if man has such a close relationship with god, man too would attain such powers which is absolutly false....Jesus was a miracle before his birth....he wasnt a regular human. He was "other than" human....If I become a monk and pray all day...guess what...i'll still be human with human abilities....Strong communication and dedication to God would never put me on the level of the power Jesus had because Jesus was "other than " human. We as humans could never EVER be on the same level with Jesus...so trying to access such a level is an unrealistic goal.
I dont know about all that Christian life stuff being the reason why the past prophets had access to divine power.....No where in the Bible does it say that the prophets before jesus were "Christians".......Again man only has human abilities.....The idea that total dedication to Gods will will give man "super powers" is false because this world is full of dedicated Christians and we still have diseases and hunger.....aint nobody traveling the earth to cure these things with miracles because humans cant do any of that stuff no matte how dedicated they are to a God.
If the time period we are in is gone then a new book needs to be made....doesnt make sense for us to follow a book that has an expiration date on it. You dont drink milk that has expired. You dont give a kid who lives in the year 2013 a history book that was published in the 1930's and say this is all the history there is.....
And dont talk that tragedies and destruction stuff....tragedies, destruction, hunger, pain, diseases...all of these natural things existed since way back when......Its obvious that nothing and i mean absolutly nothing will ever stop any of these thinsg because thats just the way life is....th idea that mans actions can stop such things is ridiculous.....Remember there was a moment called The Dark Ages were religious rule was dominant yet mankind went backwards in growth....Thsi is proof that even if religion is teh dominant force in the world nothing will change the bad side of nature.
smokeurobinson.....long time no see
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Muhammad is a false prophet breh. He just trying to get his name in the streets. I just drew a picture of him,wanna see?