The average income of African American males between 20-59

[Gritsngravy]

Stick a fork in all of them.

Corporations can hire STEM graduates all over the globe.

And that’s when American stem people need to follow these companies overseas, if they gon allow companies to do whatever they want to do then we should be trying to get them American dollars overseas then

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

STEM includes engineering, and careers related to healthcare, etc. Not just tech. STEM related jobs are damn near your only guarantee if you aren’t someone who has connections walking out of school.

Stick a fork in all of them.

Corporations can hire STEM graduates all over the globe.

And that’s when American stem people need to follow these companies overseas, if they gon allow companies to do whatever they want to do then we should be trying to get them American dollars overseas then

It seems like a lot of people be fearmongering when it comes to those H1B visas from overseas.

Have y'all spoke or worked with some of those H1Bs? I don't hear anything great about them. They have no real people skills, gift of gab, and skill wise they aren't as good as folks make em to be. A lot are only good at following directions, not doing things on their own and figuring things out.

 

[AAKing23]

What part of it is false?

All of it.

Just because you make 60K or over doesn't make you ambitious or a go getter. There's alot of variables involved. There's plenty of people who luck up into good paying jobs because they knew the right person and they got handed the position. I've met and worked with plenty.

Up until last year I made under 50k for 10 years and I'll be damn if someone tells me I wasn't ambitious or trying hard enough. It's fukking hard out here and there are invisible barriers in place for black men that make it even more difficult. And I know there's other dudes like me out there who tryna make shyt happen but they just got dealt a bad hand or have bad luck. So yeah I take that a little personal...

 

[JT-Money]

I'm really sick of hearing that shyt.. Teachers making 25k a year and people on the internet really like "HOW DO PEOPLE MAKING 40-50K SURVIVE!!!!?"

Same way as all the majority of all americans consider the avg HOUSEHOLD make about 60k

They're surviving off credit cards and payday loans. Once credit dries up that's when the wheels gonna fall off this fake economy.

 

[Gritsngravy]

I totally agree with the stats, which is formidable from an individuals perspective. And I won't go into why businesses fail, it's usually undercapitalization...

But we're talking about millions of Black men, since desegregation until now.

Moreover, failing at starting a business does not mean you can't ever be an employee ever again. (looks at resume)

If everybody at the Coli started a business, most would fail.
Some would succeed, and there would be a net increase of Black employers, which would undoubtedly help the community.




Seen this BS before.

I hate this dude, him and the rest of Black Bread Tube. Especially the cat always screaming about "Black dollars don't exist". Sociologists should not be speaking on macro-economics.

These folks, FD, Ill Bill, Foreign Man in a Foreign Land along with their right wing counterparts Yvette Carnelle, Tone Talks - want black people to deal with less. They're as bad as Black Preachers promising Heaven after Death....

If I gotta bet on Black people becoming capitalists, or all of white society becoming Socialist/Communist, I know where I'm putting my money.

The bolded is bullshyt

 

[Field Marshall Bradley]

That's not a generic statement at all. You're making this more difficult than it seem.



You learn a skill, get your foot in the door, and keep learning to move up. You don't know everything on day 1 of the job. When I first got into my company, I didn't know how to estimate jobs, now I do. My next skills will be learning bluebeam software and learning how jobsites are run.

That's what it means to acquire/develop skills.

I look at this as upward mobility in your current company. Not sure what industry you’re in, but you’re saying the next skill you learn for your current company, is a skillset you can get paid for outside your company?

 

[Gloxina]

It seems like a lot of people be fearmongering when it comes to those H1B visas from overseas.

Have y'all spoke or worked with some of those H1Bs? I don't hear anything great about them. They have no real people skills, gift of gab, and skill wise they aren't as good as folks make em to be. A lot are only good at following directions, not doing things on their own and figuring things out.

Right. These kids walking out of undergrad making at least 60k. I preach it because that’s how majority of my fam made their money. Healthcare, tech, engineering, architecture.

Yes, academia, accounting, military, etc as well. But anything STEM related propelled each household forward.

 

[Shadow King]

All of it.

Just because you make 60K or over doesn't make you ambitious or a go getter. There's alot of variables involved. There's plenty of people luck up into good paying jobs because they knew the right person and they got handed the position. I've met and worked with plenty.

Up until last year I made under 50k for 10 years and I'll be damn if someone tells me I wasn't ambitious or trying hard enough. It's fukking hard out here and there are invisible barriers in place for black men that make it even more difficult. And I know there's other dudes like me out there who tryna make shyt happen but they just got dealt a bad hand or have bad luck. So yeah I take that a little personal...

Your situation attests to his point, just with a delayed ROI so to speak. He said most and not all.

And considering regional differences, he's probably much closer to the truth than not. In the Northeast and West, 60K isn't livable. In the Midwest and South, while I think the Coli overstates the status of that person, relatively speaking that's a good chunk above average.

Don't forget that there are people here who think that $25 an hour heading into 2025 is great.

 

[JT-Money]

It seems like a lot of people be fearmongering when it comes to those H1B visas from overseas.

Have y'all spoke or worked with some of those H1Bs? I don't hear anything great about them. They have no real people skills, gift of gab, and skill wise they aren't as good as folks make em to be. A lot are only good at following directions, not doing things on their own and figuring things out.

I work with a ton of them everyday. Usually no different than the average tech worker. Only difference is they stick together and don't sabotage each other like American workers.
Didn't even know some were H1bs. Until they had visa issues and had to leave the country to renew.

But the tech workers in India are by far the worse out of all outsourcing destinations. They've had the crown for decades now.

 

[WIA20XX]

Western workers in current economies cost too much, but that is only because of purposefully inflated costs which is the mechanism by which the rich get richer.

If we go all the way there, it's all a massive house of cards.

• The value of STEM jobs in this economy
• Home prices
• The Stock Market
• the idea of money
• the illusion of fractional reserves
• the "value" of gold...

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

All of it.

Just because you make 60K or over doesn't make you ambitious or a go getter. There's alot of variables involved. There's plenty of people luck up into good paying jobs because they knew the right person and they got handed the position. I've met and worked with plenty.

Up until last year I made under 50k for 10 years and I'll be damn if someone tells me I wasn't ambitious or trying hard enough. It's fukking hard out here and there are invisible barriers in place for black men that make it even more difficult. And I know there's other dudes like me out there who tryna make shyt happen but they just got dealt a bad hand or have bad luck. So yeah I take that a little personal...

I'd say you're doing decent on $60k, reason being the median household income for white people is $78k. Some college graduates start at $60k too. It might not be comfy, but it's decent and you have an idea of what you're doing. So if two people combined their income, that's $120k.

Using Luck is a bad excuse. You can't get lucky sleeping on a couch playing videogames everyday. Sure there may be luck involved, but that goes to people applying themselves.


I didn't get lucky for my job I just applied some effort.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I'm really sick of hearing that shyt.. Teachers making 25k a year and people on the internet really like "HOW DO PEOPLE MAKING 40-50K SURVIVE!!!!?"

Same way as all the majority of all americans consider the avg HOUSEHOLD make about 60k

Where do you live where teachers make $12.50/hr?


The Median salary for teachers is $50k+ in a vast majority states.

https://study.com/academy/popular/teacher-salary-by-state.html

 

[B86]

funny you mention covid. the stats shown are for the prime covid era where you acknowledge it was a financially stressed time for the whole world and people and taking it and running with it as an indicator of normal conditions

i don't get the whole point of trying to be deep on this website when people don't read.

but yeah.... happy tuesday yall!

Did you know there is this thing called AI that you can ask and it will tell you different? Because instead of searching through websites, I just asked AI what the median income for African American males was for 2023 and it said $35,000 individually and $56,000 household. 2022 was $33,000.

How much do you make per hour? Do you know what it is annually? How much do the people around you make? Nobody is struggling, huh?

You would just rather say whatever you want instead of researching.

 

[Loose]

And barbers charge us how much per cut?

On topic: this is pathetic, regardless of the circumstances we're in we have to push education and businesses.

 

[CashmereThoughts]