The average American worker takes less vacation time than a medieval peasant

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I'll check it out, that certainly is odd.

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It's actually not, the main killers back then were almost entirely disease, which younger people without fully developed immune systems were most susceptible too. It's why infant mortality was upwards of 60%, but if you lived into adulthood you lived to right around average global life expectancy today.
 

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It's actually not, the main killers back then were almost entirely disease, which younger people without fully developed immune systems were most susceptible too. It's why infant mortality was upwards of 60%, but if you lived into adulthood you lived to right around average global life expectancy today.

Was the death rate in general higher...


I'm pretty tired
 

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It’s sad too how during the summer there is really only one holiday, 4th of July. Hell most people i know work on Labor Day :pachaha:

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I knew we were fukked up in the head when an American breh had the scust face when the Italian breh took his government given leave to take care of his dying father.
 

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I knew we were fukked up in the head when an American breh had the scust face when the Italian breh took his government given leave to take care of his dying father.

Motherfukkers in America actually brag about how hard they work at jobs, like that means shyt :mjlol:

meanwhile Italians :mjpls: get to enjoy life...can you imagine EVERYBODY gettin' a 2-hour lunch break?

or how about in Germany.....mogs gettin' Six WEEKS guranteed vacation:wow:

but meanwhile we got people over here looking down on our brehs and sisters because they simply want a 15$ hr raise in pay. :scust:
 

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Motherfukkers in America actually brag about how hard they work at jobs, like that means shyt :mjlol:

meanwhile Italians :mjpls: get to enjoy life...can you imagine EVERYBODY gettin' a 2-hour lunch break?

or how about in Germany.....mogs gettin' Six WEEKS guranteed vacation:wow:

but meanwhile we got people over here looking down on our brehs and sisters because they simply want a 15$ hr raise in pay. :scust:


How bout a jackass lile dead7. Only an American would defend an idealogue for years that's been proven to never be right for the last 200 years by everyone else. :dead:
 

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How bout a jackass lile dead7. Only an American would defend an idealogue for years that's been proven to never be right for the last 200 years by everyone else. :dead:

and the sad part is it's a b*stardized version of what it originally stood for in the UK

had it not been, I'd think you see a number of Libertarians actually fighting for the rights of the marginalized and the oppressed and not the rights of private property
 
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Most of my friends from Western / Northern Europe and Australia cannot wrap their minds around American work culture
 
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I wanted to quote you on the life expentancy thing. It’s misleading. If you made it past being a child and dying, you actually lived to about 70 in the Middle Ages. Google it but it’s pretty strange.
I'll check it out, that certainly is odd.

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We think low life expectancies are the norm cause that what we saw in the 1800s and early 1900s and we extrapolate back. But in reality the Industrial Age really fukked up life expectancy. Living in cities was pretty much worse in every way - more pollution, more disease, work was hard on the body in unnatural ways and then leisure was too sedentary. It was pretty much the peak where communicable disease, environmental disease, and lifestyle disease all hit those populations simultaneously in very nasty ways. Not to mention concentrated populations get higher murder rates, higher stress levels, probably more suicides too.

Before then you had the communicable diseases, but if you lived rural and there was a degree of herd immunity then you weren't hit with them that much cause they didn't travel through rural populations the way they did in dense cities. And if you survived the communicable diseases and didn't die in some random accident or in childbirth, you were probably gonna be okay. Environmental disease and lifestyle disease was minimized. So it's not really surprising to me that people lived normal human lifespans. Even Psalm 90 says that people only have 70 years to live, 80 if you're strong. So that suggests that 70 was considered pretty damn normal even back then in 500 B.C. or so when that shyt was written.

Vaccines, antibiotics, and clean surgeries have been a huge boon. But lifestyle and environmental issues are still fukking with us big-time. Something like 1/5 to 1/6 of global deaths are at least in part due to pollutants, and a large portion of the rest are likely due to lifestyle.

It's one of the big reasons why I'm gonna transition to raising my daughter in a rural area and start looking into rural support initiatives. I think we need to invigorate rural communities more cause this congested polluted overcrowded high-stress concrete life with no nature to go to and no exercise outside the gym just isn't the way for humans to thrive.
 

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We think low life expectancies are the norm cause that what we saw in the 1800s and early 1900s and we extrapolate back. But in reality the Industrial Age really fukked up life expectancy. Living in cities was pretty much worse in every way - more pollution, more disease, work was hard on the body in unnatural ways and then leisure was too sedentary. It was pretty much the peak where communicable disease, environmental disease, and lifestyle disease all hit those populations simultaneously in very nasty ways. Not to mention concentrated populations get higher murder rates, higher stress levels, probably more suicides too.

Before then you had the communicable diseases, but if you lived rural and there was a degree of herd immunity then you weren't hit with them that much cause they didn't travel through rural populations the way they did in dense cities. And if you survived the communicable diseases and didn't die in some random accident or in childbirth, you were probably gonna be okay. Environmental disease and lifestyle disease was minimized. So it's not really surprising to me that people lived normal human lifespans. Even Psalm 90 says that people only have 70 years to live, 80 if you're strong. So that suggests that 70 was considered pretty damn normal even back then in 500 B.C. or so when that shyt was written.

Vaccines, antibiotics, and clean surgeries have been a huge boon. But lifestyle and environmental issues are still fukking with us big-time. Something like 1/5 to 1/6 of global deaths are at least in part due to pollutants, and a large portion of the rest are likely due to lifestyle.

It's one of the big reasons why I'm gonna transition to raising my daughter in a rural area and start looking into rural support initiatives. I think we need to invigorate rural communities more cause this congested polluted overcrowded high-stress concrete life with no nature to go to and no exercise outside the gym just isn't the way for humans to thrive.
You have a solid grasp it seems of history and can even quote the Bible to give context as a historical tool; something that requires a lot of nuance and tact. My question is given your understanding of history, how can you live in a vacuum and talk about Russia's "brutal invasion of Ukraine" as if the world started in 2022? Isn't it a highly a-historical position that Ukraine did not provoke Russia given that historically Russia has been locked in a great power conflict with the rest of Europe, and therefore any buildup of hostile forces on its border is a clear provocation? Why ignore the Crimea always being a part of Russia and actually having been a gift to the Ukraine SSR by Khrushchev, a Ukrainian himself?
 
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