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Except for the part about me not doing well with being alone, it's pretty accurate.

I don't know a thing about using the info for devination or compatibility purposes, though.

from the link I posted. https://alabe.com/freechart/

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Rising Sign is in 18 Degrees Taurus

Calm and deliberate, you hate to move quickly or act hastily. Very practical, every effort must count or you can't be bothered. Patient, persistent and steady, but very stubborn -- you can't be pushed or pressured into anything. You seem outwardly self-assured because you tend to repress your inner tension and turmoil. You exude an earthy warmth, friendliness and charm. You demand comfortable surroundings and appreciate the good life. Be careful of a tendency to be overly self-indulgent. At times, you are lazy and difficult to motivate. Overcoming inertia is a problem for you and, because you are not by nature a self-starter, it is often necessary for you to receive stimuli from others in order to get moving.

Sun is in 25 Degrees Cancer.

Very emotional and sensitive, you have an intuitive understanding of the "vibes" around you. You tend to be quite generous, giving, loving and caring, but only when your own needs for emotional support, love and security have been met. If they are not met, you tend to withdraw into yourself and become very insecure and selfish. Your home and family (especially your mother or the person who played that role for you early on) represent security for you and thus assume a larger-than-life importance. Very sentimental, you have vivid and long- enduring memories of the past. No matter how well adjusted you are, you will always need a secret quiet place of your own in order to feel at peace. Feeding others can give you great pleasure you would enjoy being part of a large family.

Moon is in 17 Degrees Leo.

You always want to be proud of yourself and will never do anything that will make yourself look bad. You need the respect and admiration of others and enjoy attracting attention to yourself. Everything you do tends to be self-emphasized and self-exaggerated. Very stubborn, willful and independent yourself, be sure to allow others who are close to you the similar right to "be themselves." Your need for love, affection and reassurance, and your tendency toward vanity, allow you to have your head easily turned by flattery. The more insecure you are, the more you tend to be a showoff. You love games and sports as a matter of fact, you would usually rather play than work. Be careful of a tendency to be snobbish and uppity -- it does not become you.

Mercury is in 14 Degrees Leo.

You are usually quite convinced that your own ideas are correct and you enjoy persuading others that they are. At times, you are very stubborn and proud of your beliefs and principles, and you get very defensive when they are challenged. You appreciate truth and honesty -- you practice it yourself and expect it in others. You have good talent for organizing, directing and planning. You delight in being asked for your advice and counsel.

Venus is in 12 Degrees Gemini.

You are friendly, warm, open and tolerant toward others. You love variety in relationships, indeed you may even prefer to maintain more than one relationship at a time! Very witty and humorous, you have the ability to amuse and please others. This makes you quite popular. You love to play the field and thus find it difficult to settle down and make any deep emotional commitments. Your innate charm and vivacity makes you welcome most everywhere you go.

Mars is in 00 Degrees Gemini.

Your energies get turned on quickly whenever anything interests you. But you have a very short attention span and it is difficult for you to complete tasks because something else more interesting always seems to be beckoning. You love to debate and argue, usually in a spirit of friendly disagreement. But watch out that you do not get too overly aggressive or antagonistic or others will be quick to take offense where none may have really been intended. You need to be in constant physical motion -- sports or daily exercise is a must for you if you are to feel fit and healthy.

Jupiter is in 23 Degrees Gemini.

You have a logical, detached, objective view of most things. Your interests are wide-ranging and you are an avid student, with expertise in many different areas. You love to work things out in your mind -- everything you do is reduced to an exercise in logic and reason. You have the ability to grasp abstractions and to deal successfully with the larger issues of life. Your overemphasis on developing your powerful intellect can cause your emotional and intuitive abilities to atrophy unless you consciously choose to exercise them.

Saturn is in 17 Degrees Leo.

Extremely self-reliant, you set very high standards of conduct and decorum for yourself, and you expect others with whom you associate to be that way, too. It is important that you had a strong father figure or role model early in life to mold your life course and direction. When you feel that those around you are unworthy or behaving badly, you withdraw, preferring solitude rather than associating with those who might besmirch your reputation.

Uranus is in 07 Degrees Scorpio.

You, and your peer group, demand to confront life at its deepest and most meaningful levels. Very compulsive and obsessive in your approach to everything, you will avoid anything that is casual or superficial, especially when it comes to relationships. You will seek out and explore new methods of healing as well as different ways to deal with deep-seated emotional problems.

Neptune is in 13 Degrees Sagittarius.

You, and your entire generation, are heavily involved in investigating and idealizing foreign and exotic intellectual systems and religious philosophies. The most extreme ideals will be pursued with gusto. You will be at the forefront of humanitarian attempts to improve the lot of those who are in need of assistance. You will be comfortable with the concept of the "global village."

Pluto is in 11 Degrees Libra.

For your entire generation, this is a time of radical changes in society's attitude toward marriage and interpersonal relationships. There is a general fear and awe at the power inherent in making emotional or contractual commitments -- they will not be entered into lightly.

N. Node is in 18 Degrees Libra.

You find it very difficult to be comfortable being alone -- you would much prefer to be in an environment where many people are working together toward common goals. Your charming and sincere approach to others assures your popularity -- you have the gift of being able to ease tensions just by your mere presence. You're the perfect "team player" willing to sacrifice your own importance so that the group goal can be accomplished. Be careful, however, not to become overly dependent on your interactions with others -- you have personal private needs that should not be neglected.
 

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I got it from alabe.com. @Mr. Negative just posted his example. It'll ask for your birthday, time of birth if you know it and where you were born.


but its still confusing to me...I guess I am not meant to understand this :deadrose:

I tried to read the entire thread but I felt like my head was going to explode!!!!!
 

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but its still confusing to me...I guess I am not meant to understand this :deadrose:

I tried to read the entire thread but I felt like my head was going to explode!!!!!
I don't know how to read the chart that well. All it is is that the sun, moon, planets and stars were in these constellations when you were born.
 

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Does anyone know much about Chiron?

I know a bit - Chiron in Greek Mythology was a centaur who basically was a polymath. Taught Hercules the art of war and other such things. He was known as a mystic, warrior and a healer. He was immortal, but he sustained a permanent wound. So he was basically a wounded healer who could heal everyone but could not heal himself, so he asked the Gods to make him a mortal so he could die.

In the chart, Chiron is supposed to represent our deepest wounds that hurt the most, and the lessons we learn from them. Sort of like a mini Saturn. In turn, we can heal these wounds by helping others in that particular area. I need to learn a bit more about interpreting it in the context of a chart, but the cookbook stuff on the internet is really intriguing.
 

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Rising Sign is in 21 Degrees Cancer
Very sensitive by nature, you prefer to be in your own familiar surroundings. Cautious and conservative, you make changes in your life only very slowly, if at all. You do not open up easily to strangers. Friendships are made for life, however -- once given, your trust is forever. Your mother, your home as a child and your early family life in general are very important to you. You are also very sentimental. When you feel self- confident, you are gentle, giving and protective of the needs of others. But when you feel insecure or threatened, you become overly sensitive to criticism, shy, withdrawn and moody. You have a strong need for security -- in the sense that you are being loved, nourished and protected.

Sun is in 29 Degrees Sagittarius.
Very fun-loving, spirited and energetic, you have a huge reservoir of physical energy within you that needs to be released. As such, exercise or sports are very important to you. Quite gregarious, you enjoy being with other people, but you tend to avoid emotionally restrictive or intimate relationships. Constantly curious about the broader issues of life, you may at times be quite careless and sloppy about details -- you tend to leap to conclusions before all the facts are in. An avid reader, you are totally enthusiastic about any given subject should it interest you. You are known for being idealistic, generous, sociable, cheerful and very positive!

Moon is in 10 Degrees Taurus.
Warmth, comfort, security and familiar surroundings are necessary for you to feel at ease. Very loving and affectionate, you prefer a steady, patterned way of life. Patient, calm and steadfast, you are not easily upset. Others look to you for support. You tend to be a slow starter and a slow mover -- others may try to rush you, but they will never succeed. Emotionally, you are quite stubborn -- your attitudes about people and things were firmly set in your youth and will change very little as an adult. You are also very cautious and conservative about spending money. It is not that you are selfish, you just need to feel secure. Beware of a tendency to become overly complacent and too self-satisfied.

Mercury is in 00 Degrees Capricorn.
You are a careful thinker, very cautious and conservative. You are quite skillful at organizing, directing and planning activities. Practical and useful things interest you -- you are not attracted to abstract thoughts or ideas. With your tendency to be highly focused and very goal-oriented, you have a good head for business. But beware of a tendency to be narrow-minded and dogmatic. Your sense of humor tends toward being earthy and slapstick crude.

Venus is in 21 Degrees Sagittarius.
You are very aware of the need to maintain a high sense of morality in a relationship. Your loyalty and interest will remain constant in any relationship (either friendly, personal or business) that is based on fairness, honesty and justice. But you will become greatly hurt and disappointed if the other person takes any but the high road with you. Also, you cannot tolerate anyone being overly emotionally possessive of you. You are known for your friendly, outspoken manner.

Mars is in 11 Degrees Leo.
You are a very proud person. Strong, bold, courageous and self-possessed, you love to be the one to initiate significant actions. When people expect a lot of you, you respond positively and will work hard in order to maintain their respect. But when your dignity or pride is threatened, you tend to become sarcastic, arrogant and domineering. Try not to take any challenge or resistance that you meet as a personal affront. You are very stubborn about your right to live your life according to your own principles.

Jupiter is in 01 Degrees Cancer.
You must be emotionally secure in order to grow and develop. You are happiest when your family and community support and nourish you and boost your morale. Whether your childhood experiences of love and emotional dependability were positive or negative will set the tone for your emotional growth and stability as an adult. When you feel at ease with yourself, you are able to offer assistance to those who need a helping hand.

Saturn is in 00 Degrees Virgo.
Your life must be orderly and practical and full of known and familiar routines in order for you to feel comfortable with yourself. Be careful, however, not to let "order" become the be-all and end-all of your life, or you may become cold, crass and unfeeling. Doing useful, practical things boosts your self- esteem. Abstract concepts and reasoning seem frivolous and a waste of time to you. You are very critical of yourself (and others), indeed at times quite self-deprecating. Try to relax a bit and allow yourself the freedom to fail once in a while. However, you probably won't fail very often because you are such a perfectionist.

Uranus is in 14 Degrees Scorpio.
You, and your peer group, demand to confront life at its deepest and most meaningful levels. Very compulsive and obsessive in your approach to everything, you will avoid anything that is casual or superficial, especially when it comes to relationships. You will seek out and explore new methods of healing as well as different ways to deal with deep-seated emotional problems.

Neptune is in 16 Degrees Sagittarius.
You, and your entire generation, are heavily involved in investigating and idealizing foreign and exotic intellectual systems and religious philosophies. The most extreme ideals will be pursued with gusto. You will be at the forefront of humanitarian attempts to improve the lot of those who are in need of assistance. You will be comfortable with the concept of the "global village."

Pluto is in 16 Degrees Libra.
For your entire generation, this is a time of radical changes in society's attitude toward marriage and interpersonal relationships. There is a general fear and awe at the power inherent in making emotional or contractual commitments -- they will not be entered into lightly.

N. Node is in 12 Degrees Libra.
You find it very difficult to be comfortable being alone -- you would much prefer to be in an environment where many people are working together toward common goals. Your charming and sincere approach to others assures your popularity -- you have the gift of being able to ease tensions just by your mere presence. You're the perfect "team player" willing to sacrifice your own importance so that the group goal can be accomplished. Be careful, however, not to become overly dependent on your interactions with others -- you have personal private needs that should not be neglected.
 

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what about when Sun Ra is in your 8th house:lupe::ohhh:

When her Sun is in your house? That can indicate obsession at it's most basic. This is a person who will have significant influence on you and it will most certainly be far deeper than most unions. Like a primal attraction basically.

I have Pluto in the 8th house (hence the username) so any planet close to that will have a significant influence. Perhaps that's why I love Scorpio girls so much as Scorpio rules my 8th house....
 

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I know a bit - Chiron in Greek Mythology was a centaur who basically was a polymath. Taught Hercules the art of war and other such things. He was known as a mystic, warrior and a healer. He was immortal, but he sustained a permanent wound. So he was basically a wounded healer who could heal everyone but could not heal himself, so he asked the Gods to make him a mortal so he could die.

In the chart, Chiron is supposed to represent our deepest wounds that hurt the most, and the lessons we learn from them. Sort of like a mini Saturn. In turn, we can heal these wounds by helping others in that particular area. I need to learn a bit more about interpreting it in the context of a chart, but the cookbook stuff on the internet is really intriguing.
Thanks, my Chiron is in Leo in my 12 house.
None of my planets are in Leo btw.

The Influence of Chiron in the 12th House

Chiron is considered the wounded healer and it’s placement in your chart marks the greatest wound that you carry; the wound that feels the deepest and most unhealable. It also points to the part of your chart where you are able to heal others but struggle to heal yourself. For example Chiron in the 1oth house may struggle with work and their public persona but would likely excel at helping others to find the perfect careers and build their public profile.

When Chiron appears in your 12th House it marks a wounding of your unconscious and often a rift or fracture in your relationship with source, spirit, god. With this placement you may feel abandoned or betrayed by god but still have a deep and persistent draw towards helping others connect to source and learn to live cooperatively with spirit and spiritual energy. You may struggle with feeling authentic in your life because when talking to others you encourage them to trust and connect with source but in your own life you have developed a mistrust of source and feel abandoned by spirit.

You likely have intense and powerful psychic gifts but may find it difficult to apply them to your own life. May people with this placement are practioners in metaphysics. This placement would make an excellent psychic, medium, energy healer etc. Because the 12th house is also often the house of what is hidden it is also possible with this placement that you hide your connection to spirit in totality. It tends to go one way or the other; either you hide your connection to spirit and focus on your spiritual woundedness or you hide your spiritual woundedness and focus on your connection with spirit. Either way your connection to spirit exists within a persistent duality and you are likely hiding one side of it or the other.

I had a great info session with Tom Jacobs about Chiron in the 12th house and he talks about how Chiron in the 12th house can be about abandonment at an early age. Which totally makes sense because if you are abandoned by a parent at an early age it would create a deep wounding in your subconscious that you may not be aware of or willing to admit.

The 12th house isn’t connected to past life experiences and karma the same way that the nodes or pluto are but there is a connection between your 12th house placements and your past life experiences. Your 12th house placements often relate to your subconscious and your subconscious beliefs are created by experiences that you have had which you have not fully dealt with or processed. Often these unprocessed events happen early in life when you are unable to understand what is happening around you or understand other peoples motivations.

For example at 20 if your parent gets mad at you you will probably assess if it is just and if not you will wonder if they are having a bad day or if something else triggered an overreaction but at 3 or 5 or 7 you will internalize their anger and blame yourself for upsetting them. The result is that experiences at an early age form the foundations of our energetic structure which if left untended determines the experiences that we draw in life. So your subconscious beliefs determine the nature of your experiences on this planet and your 12th house is the ruler of your subconscious mind which is formed by your understanding of things that happened when you are unable to process them. These events are karmic in nature and thus hold lessons within them. So a careful study of your 12th house challenges will reveal that which you did not heal in a past life. In the case of 12th house Chiron your relationship with spirit was likely challenged in a past life.



Steps To Healing

- Be patient and gentle with yourself. This is a wound that may take some time to heal. Sometimes it takes years just to admit that it’s there in the first place.

- Slow and steady win the race. Start by meditating/doing yoga once and week and breathe through your resistance

- Vent get out your anger and your resentment at spirit. Scream into a pillow, work out, cry do whatever is the best emotional release for you.

- Use EFT/ tapping to release negative thought patterns

- Realise that the fact that you are wounded doesn’t mean you can’t support and help other people. Accept the wound and until your ready to heal it accept that you can work around it

- When you decide that you are ready to heal this wound use metaphysical practices to do so: hypnosis, tapping, chakra balancing (third and crown), energy healing, shamanic healing, esoteric acupuncture etc.

I don't really understand it. I don't think it really applies to me.

It might be the abandonment part and I am not fully conscious of it because my IC is in Saggitarius and I relate to that, not connecting with my family. I feel like I'm too different. I'm a Gemini in a family full of Capricorns.
 

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Thanks, my Chiron is in Leo in my 12 house.
None of my planets are in Leo btw.



I don't really understand it. I don't think it really applies to me.

It might be the abandonment part and I am not fully conscious of it because my IC is in Saggitarius and I relate to that, not connecting with my family. I feel like I'm too different. I'm a Gemini in a family full of Capricorns.

That's quite understandable - the 12th house represents the unconscious, the hidden and the "inner universe within" (as I heard someone describe it lol) so it's difficult to actually nail down how it effects you because you may not be consciously aware of the effects. It's important to also note that with some placements there are people who don't experience the usual outcomes associated with the ones in their natal. I always say free will trumps fate.

It's possible that Chiron placements are more pertinent depending on the aspects it makes and can depend on the ruler of the house it is in rather than Chiron itself. Natal charts are weird like that.

I have a Chiron in Cancer in the 4th house and I didn't completely relate to it either. Still kinda don't - but I'm sure it will become clearer after some time.

EDIT: If there are no planets in Leo, best thing to do would be to see which house Leo is on the cusp of and find what house Leo's ruler (The Sun) is in.
 

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I did that Astrolabe thing, it's a good read. Doesn't do aspects or placements, just planets in signs but it's very good.

Rising Sign is in 15 Degrees Pisces
Very sensitive to your surroundings, other people's feelings become your feelings. Try to avoid negative people because your tendency to empathize with them will make you negative also. An idealist, you must believe in something beyond your normal everyday existence. A dreamer, you like to escape to a world of your own creation. As such, you are known for the vividness of your imagination and should try to share your inner visions with others. Very self-sacrificial by nature, beware of others becoming overly dependent on you or vice versa. Allow yourself to live for yourself once in a while -- you deserve it. Don't be so envious of those who are more aggressive than you -- your gentle charity and true humility are indeed wonderful gifts. on the tenth house cusp (MIDHEAVEN).

Sun is in 03 Degrees Virgo.
Extremely careful and cautious by nature, you value neatness and order above all else. You rigorously practice very high standards of living and conduct and you demand the same of everyone with whom you come into contact. At times, you are so supercritical that you are merely nit-picky. You are very good at practical skills and quite handy with tools of all kinds. You are also greatly concerned with hygiene, cleanliness and personal health problems. Very likely your health is much better than you think it is -- don't worry so much! Extremely methodical and analytical, you are a perfectionist -- this makes you the perfect person to carry out highly detailed, precise operations. But, at times, you pay so much attention to details that you lose sight of the larger issues.

Moon is in 24 Degrees Aquarius.
Very freedom-oriented, you must always be able to do what you wish, no matter what. You become stubborn and recalcitrant when others try to force you into a mold. You are a true democrat -- you are not a follower, but you enjoy being with those who are like-minded. You appreciate emotional self-control -- you practice it yourself and you look for it in others. You solve problems, including emotional ones, with your brains and intellect, not your feelings. Try to be tolerant of those who have powerful and obvious emotional responses -- not everyone is as objective, cool, dispassionate and detached as you are.

Mercury is in 23 Degrees Virgo.
Very thorough and efficient, you pay attention to the minor but important details of any project. You are a careful thinker who can learn complicated, intricate techniques. You are attracted to practical, useful skills and are probably good at working with your hands. You are very critical of yourself and others, sometimes too much so, and you get the reputation of being a nag or of being nit-picky. Your first reaction to any situation is to try to organize, classify and analyze everything!

Venus is in 18 Degrees Cancer.
You like to be very close to other people. You need emotional support yourself and are willing to give it to others. When you feel unloved and insecure, you can be very jealous and possessive. You are not interested in casual or superficial relationships -- only deep emotional involvements interest you. Your faithful devotion is one of your greatest gifts, but be careful not to become too dependent on others. Learn to stand on your own two feet and demand your own rights once in a while.

Mars is in 11 Degrees Aries.
You are very independent and self-assertive, and you have lots of physical energy. You are not satisfied unless you can be the first to do something. As such, you are more comfortable in leadership positions than you are as an underling. When you are challenged by anyone for anything, you delight in the competitive process and will fight long and hard for your beliefs. You are bold and courageous and often act without thinking. At times, in your zeal to get ahead, you are tactless and offensive -- learn that cooperation with others can often bring you nearer to your goals quicker because of the support you will get.

Jupiter is in 04 Degrees Gemini.
You have a logical, detached, objective view of most things. Your interests are wide-ranging and you are an avid student, with expertise in many different areas. You love to work things out in your mind -- everything you do is reduced to an exercise in logic and reason. You have the ability to grasp abstractions and to deal successfully with the larger issues of life. Your overemphasis on developing your powerful intellect can cause your emotional and intuitive abilities to atrophy unless you consciously choose to exercise them.

Saturn is in 25 Degrees Sagittarius.
Basically quite conservative, you respect traditional authority figures and are very thankful and supportive of the laws and institutions which govern your life. You learn and accept new ideas only after having very thoroughly examined them. Ideals and abstract concepts are important to you only if they can be used in some practical fashion. You are so practical and so orderly that you have natural skills in planning, administrating and organizing.

Uranus is in 27 Degrees Sagittarius.
You, and most of your peers, have the tendency to think that all ideas, customs and traditions from the past are outmoded and irrelevant. You are attracted to radically new ideas, philosophies and religions that will, hopefully, cause sweeping changes throughout the world.

Neptune is in 07 Degrees Capricorn.
You, and your entire generation, will idealize work, practicality and the ability to attain reasonable goals. But, because you will also stress the need to be selfless and giving, you may find it difficult to attain your goals unless you have lowered your expectations on all fronts.

Pluto is in 10 Degrees Scorpio.
For your entire generation, this is a period of intense research and discovery in areas that were heretofore considered mysterious, remote or taboo. The root causes for many complex occurrences will be unearthed due to the intensity and thoroughness of the search.

N. Node is in 14 Degrees Pisces.
You're attracted to others who need your assistance. You seem to go out of your way to form relationships with those who are weak, sick, injured, addicted or troubled in some way or other. At your best you can indeed provide the relief that others need. But at times you can be victimized by those who would prey on your good nature and take advantage of you. This can lead to all sorts of negative situations -- make sure that those you assist are truly worthy of your time, energy and commitment. A little enlightened self-protectiveness on your part can make your life work much, much smoother!
 
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