The Arabic Slave Trade of Africans

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I avoid all things Arab as a result..Blacks that pray to Mohamad are disgraceful because theyre like modern slaves. Sadly

lol i get your overall point, but Muslims in general don't pray to Muhammed, he is the Prophet not made out to be a deity

would you call Malcolm, Ali, Elijah and 'em disgraceful cuz they subscribed to this faith tho?

that being said, Arab slave trade and how it affected East/parts of North-East Africa to this day shouldn't be understated ... but for historical context, most of the Arab slave traders and their practices predates Islam, back when Arabs were still worshipping idols and statues and alldat
 

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The Pope :mjlol: foh with that bullshyt

I am not understanding what you are stating. Were you unaware of the role that the Pope played in slave trading? Were you unaware that he mediated a dispute between Spain and Portugal regarding the lands in the New World? I am not sure if you are saying that the Popes were not involved with slave trading or if you was just unaware of the Popes (more than one) and the Vatican's role in slave trading. Because the Popes had a major role in the slave trade, which is why they issued an official apology 35 years ago.

Treaty of Tordesillas
Spain-Portugal [1494]
Treaty of Tordesillas | Summary, Definition, Map, & Facts

POPE APOLOGIZES TO AFRICANS FOR SLAVERY
POPE APOLOGIZES TO AFRICANS FOR SLAVERY

AD 1493: The Pope asserts rights to colonize, convert, and enslave
The Pope asserts rights to colonize, convert, and enslave - Timeline - Native Voices

https://historywithmsosborn.weebly.com/uploads/6/4/0/3/64038977/part_1_-_spain.pdf
 
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I am not understanding what you are stating. Were you unaware of the role that the Pope played in slave trading? Were you unaware that he mediated a dispute between Spain and Portugal regarding the lands in the New World? I am not sure if you are saying that the Popes were not involved with slave trading or if you was just unaware of the Popes (more than one) and the Vatican's role in slave trading. Because the Popes had a major role in the slave trade, which is why they issued an official apology 35 years ago.

Treaty of Tordesillas
Spain-Portugal [1494]
Treaty of Tordesillas | Summary, Definition, Map, & Facts

POPE APOLOGIZES TO AFRICANS FOR SLAVERY
POPE APOLOGIZES TO AFRICANS FOR SLAVERY

AD 1493: The Pope asserts rights to colonize, convert, and enslave
The Pope asserts rights to colonize, convert, and enslave - Timeline - Native Voices

https://historywithmsosborn.weebly.com/uploads/6/4/0/3/64038977/part_1_-_spain.pdf
nikka fukk a pope, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity if you're citing his words as an authority on Christianity.

The Pope is just a icon of European culture using the religion to empower themselves
 

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nikka fukk a pope, you have a fundamental misunderstanding of Christianity if you're citing his words as an authority on Christianity.

The Pope is just a icon of European culture using the religion to empower themselves

I am pretty sure that the Pope's authority allegedly arises from the Apostle Peter, but go on and cook breh.
 

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Samori Toure said:
I am not understanding what you are stating.

I'll make it easy for you:

The Pope =/ Christianity.

Jesus = Christianity, and that's why comparing Christians' participation in the trade to Islam just doesn't work. Jesus didn't capture, trade, or sell Africans. Compared those enslaved to those who were 'free'. Christians strive to emulate his example.

Muhammad, on the other hand, did buy, sell, and enslave Africans/Mesopotamians and compared them to animals with the caveat that it was better to free them. According to ALL Muslims, he's an example they should emulate.​
 

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I'll make it easy for you:

The Pope =/ Christianity.

Jesus = Christianity, and that's why comparing Christians' participation in the trade to Islam just doesn't work. Jesus didn't capture, trade, or sell Africans. Compared those enslaved to those who were 'free'.

Muhammad, on the other hand, did buy, sell, and enslave Africans/Mesopotamians and compared them to animals.​



Then I will make this easy for you. Mohammad claimed to be a prophet. He never claimed claimed to be God.

Jesus on the other hand said that he and the Father were one. As far as Christianity goes unless you are an Ethiopian Christian then almost all of Christianity stems from Roman Catholicism and the Office of the Pope and to a lesser extent the Emperor of Rome. Even if you are a protestant, then your protest is against the Pope. The Pope alleges that his office originates from Peter who was follower of Christ. That office is the reason that Christians do stuff today like attend Church on Sunday.

Christianity has done just as much enslaving as Islam.
 

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Samori Toure said:
I am pretty sure that the Pope's authority allegedly arises from the Apostle Peter, but go on and cook breh.

Correct, but Peter =/ Christianity.

Muhammad, on the other hand, is the epitome of Islam. He bought, sold, enslaved, and traded Africans.​
 

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Correct, but Peter =/ Christianity.

Muhammad, on the other hand, is the epitome of Islam. He bought, sold, enslaved, and traded Africans.​

But Peter and the other Apostles of Christ are Christianity or are you forgetting the words of Christ "upon this rock I build my Church and the gates of Hell shall not prevail against it." Christ was speaking to Peter.
 

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Samori Toure said:
Then I will make this easy for you. Mohammad claimed to be a prophet. He never claimed claimed to be God.

A suicidal man who robbed caravans while murdering and enslaving hundreds of people before being poisoned to death can't really make that claim.
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Jesus on the other hand said that he and the Father were one. As far as Christianity goes unless you are an Ethiopian Christian then almost all of Christianity stems from Roman Catholicism

Sorry, but Christians attended service on Sunday way before there was a Pope. And Catholicism is the basis of Christian worship, not Roman Catholicism.
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Christianity has done just as much enslaving as Islam.

That is entirely false. Islam still allows slavery and began trading 700 years before Christians entered into it, and, ultimately abolished it in the 19th century.​
 

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So when is there going to be an actual thread about Africans selling Africans? Because I have news for you dudes. There were not any White Muslims and White Christians walking into African villages on the interior taking Africans. Nope. The truth is that Africans were doing that to other Africans.

and .... ?

You do realise that those Africans who sold slaves may have later become slaves themselves and with time AA's, Caribbeans, Brazilians or other diaspora.

Just because someone got sold that doesn't mean they didn't sell anyone else before they themselves got captured. Group A sold some people from Group B and then Group B sold some people from Group A.
 
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