The African Traditional And Diasporic Religions Thread (Santeria, IFA, 21 Divisions, Sanse + etc)

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Yoruba is declared intangible heritage of Rio de Janeiro

September 6 2018

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On August 28 Law 8085 was enacted, declaring the Yoruba language intangible heritage of the state of Rio de Janeiro. Forwarded to the Legislative Assembly of Rio de Janeiro by the National Association of Black Media, the cultural heritage management emerged as a proposal in 2014.

"We understand that the Yoruba language is much more than a formal communication language, it is much more than interpersonal communication, it is, most importantly, what is spoken within religious communities", said babalorixá Marcio de Jagun, who followed the entire approval process of the document.

According to the National Institute of Historic and Artistic Heritage, cultural goods of intangible nature concern the practices and domains of social life manifested in knowledge, crafts and ways of doing; celebrations; artistic, plastic, musical or playful expressions, and places (such as markets, fairs and sanctuaries that house collective cultural practices).

The Yoruba language, on a wider scale, is a communication factor between men and gods. Songs, proverbs and praises are secularly invoked through this language. In Brazil, it gains importance because it does not just communicate, it is a resistance factor. To speak Yoruba is to resist", says the researcher who wrote the first Candomblé dictionary in Yoruba — Portuguese.

A link between Brazil and the African continent

The connection between Brazil and the African continent covers many aspects. The religions of African origin are part of this wealth. Because of this influence, many words present in Brazilian daily life are Yoruba, spoken in Southwestern Africa, mainly Nigeria. The need to learn more about this formation link of our society was the great motivator for the development of a Yoruba dictionary for Portuguese speakers.

"We tried to uncover the language in the book. Not just a grammatical but a philosophical meaning. Not just say water means "omi", but what water means within Yoruba philosophy, how is this element of nature perceived" — says professor Marcio de Jagun, author of the book "Yorubá: Vocábulo temático do Candomblé" released by Rio de Janeiro State University (UERJ).

Marcio stresses that the language is a subject in the Linguistics course of the Fluminense Federal University. For two years he has been giving classes at the institution on Yoruba grammar, culture and history.

"No one buys ice cream speaking Yoruba. One learns the language to enforce the understanding between men, goods and a community of resistance. This was crucial to make Yoruba be recognized as an intangible heritage of our state".

Yoruba is declared intangible heritage of Rio de Janeiro
what Yoruba words are in Portuguese?
 

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what Yoruba words are in Portuguese?

Abadá, abô, acarajé, afoxé, agogô, angu, atabaque, axé, batá, efó, vatapá, xequerê, xinxim... there's more to it but it's mostly food and religious and musical instruments names and the ones dealing with religion usually don't go beyond the religious domain. And some words are used through loan translation.
 

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Question for those on the first few pages who said these religions shouldn’t be messed with and Christianity was a better bet..

If it was so bad, why did the ancestors do it? Christianity was introduced to slaves as a means to control their thinking. They didn’t care about the spiritual well being when they introduced us to Jesus back in those times, and they demonized African religions by saying it’s black magic and it’s nonsense.

I’m sorry but I don’t buy that we shouldn’t be reintroduced to traditional religions.
 

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Anyone who said that is pretty clearly on some c00n shyt.

Trading deeply-rooted and ancient spiritual practices for a religion based on a cobbled-together and heavily edited book that is not even from your region of the world and doesn't mention your people anywhere, is a trade that makes no sense.

exactly bruh...I was raised as a Christian but as I got older and smarter, I learned the slave master taught slaves Christianity as a means to control them even more, and why we still practice it today blows my mind.
 

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exactly bruh...I was raised as a Christian but as I got older and smarter, I learned the slave master taught slaves Christianity as a means to control them even more, and why we still practice it today blows my mind.

I definitely support turning away from Christianity (and Islam as well) but I'm also not saying we need to be fully adopting all aspects of traditional stuff either. Practices involving animal sacrifice and the like is :whoa:

There is much to be learned and understood that we can adapt to modern circumstances with regards to how we relate to one another, our ancestors, and the natural world. We're smart enough to look at our traditional cultural practices critically and leave the bad (or whatever we feel is bad) in the past while reconnecting with the good.
 

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Question for those on the first few pages who said these religions shouldn’t be messed with and Christianity was a better bet..

If it was so bad, why did the ancestors do it? Christianity was introduced to slaves as a means to control their thinking. They didn’t care about the spiritual well being when they introduced us to Jesus back in those times, and they demonized African religions by saying it’s black magic and it’s nonsense.

I’m sorry but I don’t buy that we shouldn’t be reintroduced to traditional religions.
Christianity has a dark side too. Gnostic teachings lead you there. Most Christians don't know about it so they feel they can speak on fully realized systems.
 

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does anyone have information on regional African-American hoodoo/roots/African derived spirituality systems? primarily interest in Georgia/South Carolina
 

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does anyone have information on regional African-American hoodoo/roots/African derived spirituality systems? primarily interest in Georgia/South Carolina
Here are a couple good books.

The first book is mainly based on recorded narratives and gives you a pretty general idea of practices throughout the entire South.

The second book is very extensive and where you might be able to identify some regional differences. It doesn’t necessarily explain regional difference uniformly, just gives examples of different words, customs, etc observed in different states throughout the South.

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