The African Traditional And Diasporic Religions Thread (Santeria, IFA, 21 Divisions, Sanse + etc)

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Voodoo is scary because it is real.

Indeed man lol. I didn't want to get possessed or anything but who knows, maybe one day. The sacrifice aspect also scares me.

On another note thanks for sharing all this info. Can't wait to read through it and watch these videos.
 
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On another note does anyone have any personal experience with these traditions? or any out of the ordinary spiritual experiences in general they want to share?

Anyone an initiate or practitioner?
 

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On another note does anyone have any personal experience with these traditions? or any out of the ordinary spiritual experiences in general they want to share?

Anyone an initiate or practitioner?

I have no personal experience. Christianity has wiped out my connection to my alusi. But my father has ichi scars on his cheek because he was a sickly child.
 

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On another note does anyone have any personal experience with these traditions? or any out of the ordinary spiritual experiences in general they want to share?

Anyone an initiate or practitioner?

I went to boarding high school in Western Nigeria. During orientation for new students, we visited Olumo Rock in Ogun State Nigeria. It is essentially a giant rock that was a fortress for the Egba people in the 19th century or so. I was 14 at the time and this was my first encounter with real "native" spirits. There was a priestess there that was soooooo old and she just had a very weird aura around her. Our guide gave her some money and told us to be very careful with anything we touched.

She had these bottles around her. Like 5 or 6 of them, like old school Coke and Sprite bottles. Nothing out of the ordinary. Except, some girl in our group opened one of the bottles, looked inside and started crying. No word why, but some say she saw a fairy inside them.

I will say this, Voodoo, Candomble, Orishas, Vodoun etc all of these African, Carribean, Brazilian and Afro-Latin spirit practices are real. But trust me when I say the spirits that are being worshiped are not wholesome. My grandfather's siblings all worshiped these spirits but he converted to Christianity for good reason. There are some things I think people should not try to meddle with, these spirits are one of them.
 
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An Afro-descendant from Cuba interviews a babalowo in Yorubaland

Damn to think they had to memorize 250 odu's and a Babalawo I went to was reading the odu's off a piece of paper. Forget about the verse's because they probably didn't memorize that at all.

It seems way stricter in Africa.
 

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Damn to think they had to memorize 250 odu's and a Babalawo I went to was reading the odu's off a piece of paper. Forget about the verse's because they probably didn't memorize that at all.

It seems way stricter in Africa.

They probably prize rote learning more in Yorubaland. I remember reading that those who learned Confucian learning in pre-Maoist China had to memorize tons of stuff for their exams. Probably a similar phenomenon here. The human mind can be trained to remember a lot. Especially if you start young.
 

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I have no personal experience. Christianity has wiped out my connection to my alusi. But my father has ichi scars on his cheek because he was a sickly child.


Interesting, thanks for sharing. I noticed that in Santeria they do things to help sickly children as well. Joey Diaz as well speaks on this in the video up above and if you didn't see that you might want to watch it because he speaks on his experience with it and what it was like in NY being under a godmother in Santeria as a kid and Santeria going from a positive thing to a negative thing. In Santeria when you are sick from what I recall they try to bring you to the river and do things to heal you and if you are healed you have to receive the elekes and then go through initiation in order to worship the saints almost as thank you for them healing you. You're suppose to serve them in return for them healing you kinda deal.

Do you know or do you care to say what kinda of things he was healed from by way of these ichi scares?
 
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Interesting, thanks for sharing. I noticed that in Santeria they do things to help sickly children as well. Joe Rogan as well speaks on this in the video up above and if you didn't see that you might want to watch it because he speaks on his experience with it and what it was like in NY being under a godmother in Santeria as a kid and Santeria going from a positive thing to a negative thing. In Santeria when you are sick from what I recall they try to bring you to the river and do things to heal you and if you are healed you have to receive the elekes and then go through initiation in order to worship the saints almost as thank you for them healing you. Your suppose to serve them in return for them healing you kinda deal.

Do you know or do you care to say what kinda of things he was healed from by way of these ichi scares?

I don't know what ailed him. Medical care in Nigeria was quite poor in the 1950s/early 1960s.
 
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