THE ADVERTISING OF LEBRON JAMES AND THE EFFECT IT HAS ON THE GENERAL CONSENSUS

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Finally a truthteller has come forth, :ohhh:

a guiding light amongst the darkness of ignorance that is the average NBA fan.
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Continue to speak truth to power my friend, if just one lost soul is saved you have done your job.

The only thing I wished you pointed out was how the media is suddenly acting as if Boston is some great team. So if Bron comes back from down 0-2 they will raise his stature even more :aicmon:
 

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No. Michael Jordan did not play in an offensive system that tried to maximize his individual stats to the detriment of his teammates when he won his 6 rings. The triangle offense is basically the opposite of that. It was an equal opportunity offense that maximized ball movement and post play.
I was speaking more to him being a media darling. I remember the media crowning him as the GOAT from before he retired to play baseball.
 

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The comments section is tame for the coli.

I respect the grind, but I doubt the staff of that site would let you write that article knowing your bias.
 

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Kobe is nothing compared to Lebron. Get over it! Lol the only people who think otherwise are kobe stand and till this day they can’t name a single thing outside of FT% that Kobe does better lmao!
 

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Kobe is nothing compared to Lebron.

only people who think otherwise are kobe stand!

OH REALLY?

DIRK NOWITZKI - Dirk: Kobe 'greatest player in my generation'

DWYANE WADE - Dwyane Wade says Kobe Bryant 'is the greatest player of our era'

KEVIN DURANT - Kevin Durant: Kobe Bryant is 'the greatest of all time,' Kobe and Michael Jordan '1 and 1A'

MICHAEL JORDAN - Michael Jordan Would Pick Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James | SLAMonline

KAREEM ABDUL-JABBAR - Kareem Abdul-Jabbar takes sides in Kobe vs LeBron debate

PAUL PIERCE - Paul Pierce Puts Kobe Ahead of Lebron

CHARLES BARKLEY -http://www.complex.com/sports/2016/...bron-james-higher-than-kobe-bryant-tim-duncan

SHAQUILLE O'NEAL - Shaquille O'Neal says he'd take Kobe Bryant in his prime over LeBron

STEPHEN JACKSON - Stephen Jackson: Iwould take Kobe Bryant over LeBron James | UNDISPUTED | FOX Sports

CHRIS WEBBER - Is Chris Webber Team Kobe or Team LeBron?

DENNIS RODMAN - Dennis Rodman On Judge Pirro Says Kobe Is Better Than Lebron

DAMIAN LILLARD - Damian Lillard proves he’s a future Laker by saying he’d pick Kobe over LeBron

JARED DUDLEY- Jared Dudley Says Kobe Bryant Was More Difficult To Guard ThanLeBron James Or Kevin Durant

LAMAR ODOM- "Kobe is the Greatest Player of This Generation"

TRACY MCGRADY - McGrady: 'No doubt' Kobe best player I've faced, including MJ - ESPN Video

SCOTTIE PIPPEN- Scottie Pippen Says LeBron James Hasn't Passed Kobe Bryant, Michael Jordan

ROBERT HORRY - Robert Horry picks Kobe, Hakeem, MJ as Top 3

KENYON MARTIN - Kenyon MartinDESTROYS Lebron James vs Michael/Kobe Debate

DERRICK ROSE - Derrick Rose: Kobe is theJordan of our generation

RICK BARRY - Rick Barry: Kobe is better than Lebron

CARON BUTLER - Lakers News: Caron Butler Calls Kobe Bryant 'Greatest Player Of Our Generation,' Recalls First-Hand Experience To Work Ethic - Lakers Nation

STEPHON MARBURY - VIDEO: Stephon Marbury Believes Kobe, Not LeBron, Is NBA's Best - Lakers Nation

ALLEN IVERSON - Allen Iverson Names Top 5 Players of his Era, Talks Kobe vs LeBron

HAKEEM OLAJUWON - Hakeem Olajuwon says Kobe Bryant was his greatest success as a coach over Lebron

JAHLIL OKAFOR - Playing Against Kobe is Different than Playing Against LeBron

RASHAD MCCANTS - Rashad McCants States Kobe Bryant Is Greatest Player Of All-Time, LeBron Can't Take Over Games

JULIUS ERVING - Julius Erving Picks Spurs Over Heat In Finals, Says He'd Take Kobe Over LeBron

REGGIE MILLER - Reggie Miller picks Kobe over LeBron | The Dan Patrick Show | FOX Sports Radio

TONY ALLEN - Kobe The Best That Ever Did It YOUTUBE VIDEO: yuNtO3dFF7c

STEVE SMITH - Tells Rick Kamla Kobe is better than Lebron

GILBERT ARENAS -http://www.complex.com/sports/2015/...ames-will-never-be-michael-jordan-kobe-bryant

KYRIE IRVING - Kyrie Irving "I’d Put Michael Jordan & Kobe Bryant Above Lebron"

RON ARTEST - Metta World Peace ranks Kobe best player in NBA history

TREVOR ARIZA - Trevor Ariza: Kobe Better Than LeBron and Duncan

JIM JACKSON -https://www.foxsports.com/watch/first-things-first/video/1181535299915

LARRY BIRD - Larry Bird would like to team with Kobe for the win, LeBron for the fun

MARK JACKSON - Mark Jackson : "When Kobe retires, he will be greatest of all time"

TAYSHAUN PRINCE- Tayshaun Prince explains the differences between guarding Kobe and LeBron

DOMINIQUE WILKINS - Dominique Wilkins: "Kobe Bryant in his prime better all around player than Lebron"

GLEN RICE - http://www.mighty1090.com/episode/g...o-ever-come-to-michael-jordan-is-kobe-bryant/

JASON TERRY - Jason Terry Says Kobe > LeBron

GARY PAYTON - Gary Payton says Kobe Bryant is still the best player alive

MAGIC JOHNSON - LeBron James Dissed By Magic Johnson!

DAVID WESLEY - David Wesley: 'LeBron Doesn't Have Killer Instinct Like Jordan OrKobe'

KENNY SMITH - Kenny the Jet from TNT ranks Kobe above Lebron & more!

GREG ANTHONY - Greg Anthony: Kobe Better Than Michael!!

NICK YOUNG - Nick Young Says Kobe Bryant Is Better Than Michael Jordan - Ball Don't Stop

BRANDON JENNINGS - Brandon Jennings Calls Kobe Bryant 'The Greatest Ever,' Says MJ Had Better Cast
 
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So when someone writes a well written, well thought out article, your only response is to insult him rather than arguing against the content of his message? :what:

Guess this is a sign that he's 100% right since you have no logical comeback.

@Sccit wins again.
I would be happy to tear apart the content of his article if you would like to see what is wrong with it.
 

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The Advertising Of LeBron James And The Effect It Has On The General Consensus.

May 16, 2018 by Staff
News, Opinion, Sports, Weekly Columns

The most popular discussion going on in basketball circles nowadays revolves around whether or not LeBron James is the GOAT. For better or worse, your traditional basketball purist will laugh this media fabrication off without hesitation, while the casual NBA consumer sits back and sips the cash cow’s milk. From barbershops to blacktops, it is universally the go-to topic amongst fans of the game.

But what exactly has allowed this ridiculous narrative to continue brewing for so long? As great as LeBron is, what has caused the general consumer to so confidently place him alongside players who do not share nearly as many failures?

Let’s start by giving credit where credit is due.. LeBron is a once in a lifetime athlete. Physically, we have never seen anything like him. As far as size and athleticism go, LeBron is clearly head and shoulders ahead of the pack. The things he can do at his height combined with his strength are unparalleled. He can handle the ball, pass with the best of them, and has even improved on his once-questionable jump shot over the course of his career. LeBron’s overall ability for someone of his build is just absolutely incredible.

To have the opportunity to cover an athlete with such extraordinary gifts is like winning the lottery for an NBA journalist. But in order to fully capitalize on this opportunity, the journalists must first (dishonestly) propel the athlete to the highest of heights. Simply put, the greater LeBron James is made to appear, the more drawn to the coverage your average consumer will be.

Now that we covered the reasoning behind the fabrication of these LeBron James GOAT discussions, let’s delve into what steps are being taken in order to create these attention-grabbing headliners- In order to create these false narratives, one must first create an inordinate amount of excuses and passes for LeBron’s failures, as well as overly praise him for accomplishing what he is expected to accomplish.

Just take a look at where we are at now- the 2018 NBA playoffs, where the GOAT talks have gone into overdrive and increased tenfold. Looking at this objectively will leave you baffled:

First and foremost, LeBron James is not half the player he was in his prime; literally. His defense (which is still 50% of the game last time I checked) is atrocious nowadays, to say the least. But this rarely gets mentioned, if ever. Pretty strange that a player who was known for his strong defense during his best years is all of a sudden propelled to greater heights when half of his game falls completely off, wouldn’t you say? But they continue sipping…

Woeful defense aside, ask yourself, is the fact that the LeBron James led Cleveland Cavaliers needed 7 games to barely escape a Victor Oladipo led Indiana Pacers team in the first round really the breath-taking accomplishment we were waiting for in order to anoint him the GOAT? Of course not- it is what should be expected. As a matter of fact, any GOAT level player would not have even needed 7 Games to get past an average 1st round opponent- especially not in the pitiful Eastern Conference. Yet the moment the Cavs won the series, the sports media spun it into some incredible achievement that, once again, elevated LeBron’s stature. And they keep sipping…

The elevating does not stop there, though… The Cavaliers 2nd round opponent was even worse! For as successful as the Toronto Raptors have been in the regular season, they have historically been just as terrible in the playoffs. In fact, you’ll probably find a picture of the Raptors logo in the dictionary if you look up the word mediocre. Considering LeBron has faced weak competition in the Eastern Conference playoffs throughout his career, another 2nd round victory should be the expectation, right?…Wrong! Not to the almighty sports media, at least. To the world of over-the-top journalism, it was LeBron once again doing the unthinkable and erasing the entire country of Canada off the map on his quest to reminding everyone why he is the GOAT- He beat Toronto!! Sip…

Now we find ourselves in the midst of the Eastern Conference Finals, where the Cleveland Cavaliers are currently trailing 0-2 in their series against the Boston Celtics… and just as fast as the sports journalists were to overly praise LeBron for meeting expectations, they will be even faster to dismiss his failures and find every excuse in the book as to why he is currently losing to a team led by rookies and sophomores. A team without a superstar. A team whose two best players are not even active for the series. Of course, when it comes to the Cavaliers, the blame is always placed on anyone other than LeBron. The series is not over- not by a longshot. Afterall, the Celtics simply protected their home court, and now it is up to the Cavaliers to head home and take care of business in Cleveland.

But you can bet your bottom dollar that if the Cavs lose this series, the excuses for LeBron will start piling up like there is no tomorrow. His teammates will receive the bulk of the blame, while LeBron’s legacy will, once again, go unscathed. As addressed in the “Kyrie Irving Requested a Trade Because LeBron James Hinders Teammates” piece- this is the exact reason Kyrie no longer wanted any parts of staying in Cleveland last summer. LeBron basically has a supporting cast on the same level as the team Kobe Bryant took to back-to-back championships in 2009-2010 (in the superior Western Conference nonetheless), but once LeBron starts losing, the narrative casually shifts to “he doesn’t have any help!

The infamous system popularized as “LeBron Ball“, which allows LeBron to put up incredible individual statistics as the entire offense flows through him, is the same system that ultimately handicaps his teammates in the long run. In comparison, when watching Kobe Bryant’s new show “Detail” on ESPN, one can fully understand the genius of top-tier basketball acumen. It’s the little things that don’t show up in the box score that separate the greats from the GOATs. Players like Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant knew how to maximize their teammates potential by studying their sweet spots, getting them the ball where they like it, and finding holes in the defense prior to making a pass that would lead to an assist.

LeBron generally pounds the ball, and instead of reading how the defense unfolds, he simply looks for the “home-run pass” that will lead directly to a basket if he can not find a shot for himself. A lot of the times, this pass will also come with the shot clock winding down and with the recipient totally out of position to score or make a play. How does this benefit LeBron individually? If his teammate makes the basket, LeBron gets the assist – if LeBron finally finds the shot he wants, then LeBron gets the points.. and because those statistics are a major factor in the overstating of his greatness, he continues to play this way, despite how detrimental it may be to the ball movement and overall success of his team.

This is why relying solely on analytics (which is considered the modern day end-all-be-all of judging players) typically results in skewed opinions. Stats can be padded. Players like Russell Westbrook and LeBron James, albeit great, are living proof that one can inflate his own statistics if given the green light. But this inflation of stats typically comes at the expense of your teammates’ overall performance. From Kevin Love (who was a superstar big man prior to joining LeBron) to Rodney Hood (who was a fantastic role player averaging 17 points per game for the Utah Jazz before being traded to the Cavs), they all have on thing in common- they are unequivocally victims of LeBron Ball.

When factoring all this in, it’s not hard to see why LeBron James has gone 3/8 in Finals play, despite being known as a front-runner who has had the privilege of hand-picking his own superteams since 2010. Although 3 rings is undeniably a noteworthy achievement in its own, other players in history have won more in fewer attempts without having this same privilege. LeBron has always gone as far as his team takes him.

That being said, is LeBron James an all-time great? Absolutely. Is he a GOAT level player, as advertised? It will take a whole lot of winning in the next couple of years for anyone to genuinely come to such a conclusion.

So will the real GOAT please stand up or will the general consensus be forced to collectively sip until someone comes along and slaps the cup out of their hand?

*SLAP*

Staff Writer; Sccit






AND ANOTHER 1:banderas:

LeBron > Jordan is not the most popular discussion and it's not a commonly held belief among purists or casuals. A poll would have been appropriate but would have exposed this argument as the strawman that it is.

While it may be true that sports talk lives in the moment and upsells whatever is currently happening, that has always been the case. We saw the same bullshyt with the Kobe slurping and the Kobe vs Jordan debates and you never wrote an article about it then because you thought the media was spitting facts when the sensationalism was in your favor. You should have complained about how much the 24-7 media recycles the same topics but that shyts on you for actually following all 24-7.

Analytics are not the absolute way of judging players in the modern day. That whole argument showed a lack of basic understanding. You should have used examples but you really have no direction in the argument anyway.

Overall, it is clear you don't have a journalism background and you've never learned how to construct a persuasive essay. Your thoughts are disorganized and you don't have much grasp of the English language.

I give you an F. If you like writing and want to do more of this, you should start taking classes.
 

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LeBron > Jordan is not the most popular discussion and it's not a commonly held belief among purists or casuals. A poll would have been appropriate but would have exposed this argument as the strawman that it is.

While it may be true that sports talk lives in the moment and upsells whatever is currently happening, that has always been the case. We saw the same bullshyt with the Kobe slurping and the Kobe vs Jordan debates and you never wrote an article about it then because you thought the media was spitting facts when the sensationalism was in your favor. You should have complained about how much the 24-7 media recycles the same topics but that shyts on you for actually following all 24-7.

Analytics are not the absolute way of judging players in the modern day. That whole argument showed a lack of basic understanding. You should have used examples but you really have no direction in the argument anyway.

Overall, it is clear you don't have a journalism background and you've never learned how to construct a persuasive essay. Your thoughts are disorganized and you don't have much grasp of the English language.

I give you an F. If you like writing and want to do more of this, you should start taking classes.


YOU LITERALLY SAID NOTHING....YOUR MAIN RETORT WAS TRYING TO ATTACK MY “BACKGROUND IN JOURNALISM” AND THE GRAMMARATICAL ERRORS? FOREAL?? LMFAO .. LIKE SWAG SAID, U BRON GROUPIES HAVE NO COUNTERS TO THE POINTS MADE

U DIDNT EVEN ATTEMPT TO SHOOT DOWN ONE THING IN THE ENTIRE ARTICLE

LEBRON GOAT TALKS ARE DEFINITELY A MAIN TALKING POINT IN BASKETBALL DISCUSSION NOWADAYS - WHETHER ITS THAT “HE IS GOAT” OR “ON HIS WAY TO GOAT” - IT WAS NOTHING LIKE THIS FOR KOBE, DUNO WTF UR RAMBLING ON ABOUT.

THEN AGAIN, U SAID U DONT WATCH SPORTS TALK SHOWS, SO HOW THE FUCC WOULD U EVEN KNOW?

ITS COOL TO SEE U POST JUST FOR THE SAKE OF POSTING THO. GOOD EFFORT, CHAMP.
 
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