texas to execute 500th person

[mbewane]

Wow, sound like you don't understand. @Street Knowledge

A. Women do harm all the time... I really don't agree w the death penalty for most cases because it lets people off easy and doesn't deter crime. Women rarely deserve it. In nearly 100% of the cases the women is way pass crazy or has suffered years of abuse.. probably since childhood.
B. Didn't say that. I said boys being raped by men is a biggie. I said that studies show that boys who engage in acts w women are less mentally messed up than same sex rape. imo, since those women aren't Completely destroying the boys life - we shouldn't take theirs. Every men who rapes a child regardless of sex should be tortured then killed.
C. yea, if someone deserves it. The man who killed an infant by having sex w her... I feel like a str8 up death penalty is getting off easy.
D. Everyone should be judged fairly. In over 100 years there hasn't been one study that shows that non-whites in America are judged fairly most of the time. If a South Korean is judged in S. Korea, I'm OK w that. If a Palestinian is judged in Israel - we know it will not be fair. I guess we are going to pretend to be naive about our criminal justice system and private prison industry in America.

A. Where do you get these numbers that nearly 100 % of women who do harm are way past crazy or have been abused? (To me it sounds like the über-feminists that say "A woman is kind and nice by nature, if otherwise it's a man's fault ). So I wouldn't mind knowing where you get that figure from (and see if the same doesn't apply to men...because you know...when a white man goes on a killing spree, he's "crazy", when it's anyone else it's "terrorism" )

B. So, yeah, you are saying that boys being sexually by women is less a problem than other rapes. Sounds like sexism to me, but again wouldn't mind seeing those studies you talk about.

C. No comment, can't really discuss with people who support torture.

D. I understand your point better thanks to your following post. Thought you were one of those "Segregation is better" types.

 

[Blackking]

A. Where do you get these numbers that nearly 100 % of women who do harm are way past crazy or have been abused? (To me it sounds like the über-feminists that say "A woman is kind and nice by nature, if otherwise it's a man's fault ). So I wouldn't mind knowing where you get that figure from (and see if the same doesn't apply to men...because you know...when a white man goes on a killing spree, he's "crazy", when it's anyone else it's "terrorism" )

B. So, yeah, you are saying that boys being sexually by women is less a problem than other rapes. Sounds like sexism to me, but again wouldn't mind seeing those studies you talk about.

C. No comment, can't really discuss with people who support torture.

D. I understand your point better thanks to your following post. Thought you were one of those "Segregation is better" types.

A.Violent behavior is both learned and is biological. Men are naturally built with testosterone and more aggressive tendencies. Plus society condones violence and promotes it in cartoons, tv and movies-- and the theme is usually a boy or man being violent. In most movies the scenes reflects life - where the violent women was pushed too far or was abused for too long.

B. I don't wanna open up the debate that we've had 20 times in HL, but kids who are raped end up questioning their sexual identity or sexual orientation (more typical of men raped by other men). Plus I don't have a reason to be sexist towards men.. I'm a man. Most of the women in my life think I'm slightly sexist towards women (in a funny way, not a crazy way). But I know that a lil boy will be less damaged getting his dikk sucked or fondling a grown woman- than he would if he were forced to have a dikk in his throat or anally raped.

C. You know some people deserve it. Guy who rapes infant. Officials who have their hands in the deaths of millions of innocent people world wide. Christopher Columbus, Mobutu Sese Seko, Ann Coulter, Etc.

 

[unit321]

500 in 37 years? In China they call that Monday.

LOL.

 

[mbewane]

A.Violent behavior is both learned and is biological. Men are naturally built with testosterone and more aggressive tendencies. Plus society condones violence and promotes it in cartoons, tv and movies-- and the theme is usually a boy or man being violent. In most movies the scenes reflects life - where the violent women was pushed too far or was abused for too long.

B. I don't wanna open up the debate that we've had 20 times in HL, but kids who are raped end up questioning their sexual identity or sexual orientation (more typical of men raped by other men). Plus I don't have a reason to be sexist towards men.. I'm a man. Most of the women in my life think I'm slightly sexist towards women (in a funny way, not a crazy way). But I know that a lil boy will be less damaged getting his dikk sucked or fondling a grown woman- than he would if he were forced to have a dikk in his throat or anally raped.

C. You know some people deserve it. Guy who rapes infant. Officials who have their hands in the deaths of millions of innocent people world wide. Christopher Columbus, Mobutu Sese Seko, Ann Coulter, Etc.

A. So you don't have anything to base that assertion except TV "reflecting life"?

B. Again, you're basing that on "what you know", how do you know it breh?

I'm not even trolling, I mean if you're gonna make such statements at least tell me you read an article about it or something, how do you "know" that boys raped by women will be less damaged, you do know that psychological damage is also damage right...

C. We can add Bush, Blair, a whole lot of people who were responsible/on the ground in Afghanistan/Iraq/Abu Ghraib/Guantanamo then...personnaly never been a big fan on "an eye for an eye", we see every day how that just fuels an endless cycle of useless violence

 

[Blackking]

A. So you don't have anything to base that assertion except TV "reflecting life"?

B. Again, you're basing that on "what you know", how do you know it breh?

I'm not even trolling, I mean if you're gonna make such statements at least tell me you read an article about it or something, how do you "know" that boys raped by women will be less damaged, you do know that psychological damage is also damage right...

C. We can add Bush, Blair, a whole lot of people who were responsible/on the ground in Afghanistan/Iraq/Abu Ghraib/Guantanamo then...personnaly never been a big fan on "an eye for an eye", we see every day how that just fuels an endless cycle of useless violence

I'm all about an eye for an eye....

I've put scientific articles on here before. I just didn't feel like fetching those for you. I don't think you're trolling, but my main points are.. about racial inequalities of the justice system... and why those things make fairness in punishment invalid for certain groups.

And also, that we shouldn't have death for women. There is a reason most nations don't kill women. What I said about homosexuality and rape is on wiki, but there are better sources that go into detail on why men- boy rape is the worst. What I said about the nature of women and men is everywhere and of course women are normally less aggressive and less likely to commit horrid crimes due to biological natures..and social pressures.

According to the Justice Department, roughly one in 10 homicides are committed by women. And when women kill, their victims are more likely to be someone close to them, like their children, boyfriends or spouses. So what does that tell you other than the obvious? Damn near 100% of crazy crimes committed by women are because someone shytted on them or they are crazy and wanna kill off their own children.

Forensic psychologists and criminal profilers say women who kill have backgrounds and motivations that are "often quite different from their male counterparts." Compared with men, women are more likely to be related to their victim, less likely to plan in advance and less likely to use extreme violence.

And I misspoke when I simply said- that women were just less aggressive. I'm not completely taking up for women, I've been stabbed by two different women, and 1 time it was near my heart and was serious. For the most part though- women aren't less aggressive than men, but they express it differently.. they are more passive aggressive. Plus, imo, Men should have more control over our actions. We are stronger and can inflict more damage than women. As a matter of fact - studies show women are Actually More likely to physically attack a partner when shes upset... but men are more likely to kill or beat the shyt out of a partner.

Most female actions don't lead to rape, chopping people up, murder, or crazy shyt. Evolutionary psychology says that-Females are wired to take on greater parental investments and are less likely to want to be alone- so females may "thus avoid direct physical aggressiveness and instead use strategies such as "friendship termination, gossiping, ostracism, and stigmatization".... Even before they can have kids females display different reactions than boys. Even when a lil girl hits another kid, she's not trying to severely damage the kid, where as a lil boy might be.

And about torture.. I don't agree w torture to get secrets or to get info or during war. It's just that for some people, death is getting off easy.

 

[mbewane]

I'm all about an eye for an eye....

I've put scientific articles on here before. I just didn't feel like fetching those for you. I don't think you're trolling, but my main points are.. about racial inequalities of the justice system... and why those things make fairness in punishment invalid for certain groups.

And also, that we shouldn't have death for women. There is a reason most nations don't kill women. What I said about homosexuality and rape is on wiki, but there are better sources that go into detail on why men- boy rape is the worst. What I said about the nature of women and men is everywhere and of course women are normally less aggressive and less likely to commit horrid crimes due to biological natures..and social pressures.

According to the Justice Department, roughly one in 10 homicides are committed by women. And when women kill, their victims are more likely to be someone close to them, like their children, boyfriends or spouses. So what does that tell you other than the obvious? Damn near 100% of crazy crimes committed by women are because someone shytted on them or they are crazy and wanna kill off their own children.

Forensic psychologists and criminal profilers say women who kill have backgrounds and motivations that are "often quite different from their male counterparts." Compared with men, women are more likely to be related to their victim, less likely to plan in advance and less likely to use extreme violence.

And I misspoke when I simply said- that women were just less aggressive. I'm not completely taking up for women, I've been stabbed by two different women, and 1 time it was near my heart and was serious. For the most part though- women aren't less aggressive than men, but they express it differently.. they are more passive aggressive. Plus, imo, Men should have more control over our actions. We are stronger and can inflict more damage than women. As a matter of fact - studies show women are Actually More likely to physically attack a partner when shes upset... but men are more likely to kill or beat the shyt out of a partner.

Most female actions don't lead to rape, chopping people up, murder, or crazy shyt. Evolutionary psychology says that-Females are wired to take on greater parental investments and are less likely to want to be alone- so females may "thus avoid direct physical aggressiveness and instead use strategies such as "friendship termination, gossiping, ostracism, and stigmatization".... Even before they can have kids females display different reactions than boys. Even when a lil girl hits another kid, she's not trying to severely damage the kid, where as a lil boy might be.

And about torture.. I don't agree w torture to get secrets or to get info or during war. It's just that for some people, death is getting off easy.

Eh, I see your points better now but i'll admit I'm not totally convinced, sounds like the whole downplaying of psychological (and physical) abuses by women that generally go under the radar...

More than 40% of domestic violence victims are male, report reveals | Society | The Observer

Yeah SOME men are more likely to be physically aggressive but the psychological aggressiveness of some women is a reality that gets swept under the rug a little too much imo.

Just to make clear what I'm saying, for the same crime and same circumstances I say women and men criminals should get treated equally.

For the rest I guess we can agree we disagree

 

[Poppa_Dock]

She murdered someone


But damn, 500th person to be executed

Does she at least get a commemorative price

actually looking at the crime stats that is embarrassingly low. A place that has thousands of murders, 10's of thousands of robberies and hundreds of rapes has only executed 500 people in its existence

 

[Pazzy]

500 in 37 years? In China they call that Monday.

it's actually 30 years going on 31 since texas resumed executing people in 1982.

either way, this is incredibly sad because there's REALLY no point to all this. her being executed is actually an easy way out. she's going to die whether they kill her or not as well as the hundreds of inmates on death row. them being put to death instead of spending the rest of their lives inside a prison is basically showing mercy on them. who in their right mind would want to spend the rest of their life in prison? you're never going to get out. you're going to get old. you're basically waiting until you die. the only thing that i think is punishing about the death penalty is the anxiety that someone faces not knowing WHEN they're going to die or how their case is going to turn out. that in itself is torture. them getting an execution date where they know when they're going to die is still fukked up BUT compared to doing a life sentence without the possibility of parole where they'll never see the outside world again, see their family if they have any and etc is far worse. not only do the victim's family gets to relive the trauma all over again BUT the inmate to be executed family and friends also becomes victims where they suffer a punishment of losing a loved one. texas seems to be taking it back to some medieval shyt.

 

[T.he I.nformant]

@Blackking generally

 

[Sensitive Blake Griffin]

blackking revealing himself as a racist moron once again

why don't you just say you're against the death penalty all together? Your weird conditionals make you look racist/stupid/sexist

 

[///Vega+++]

@ them dropping confetti over her as she sits strapped in the seat.

nikka uw rong for this

 

[South Paw]

I think the death penalty is sexist as it is. Its aimed at men, and women get off easy, and are never held to the same standards most of the time. They are given excuses for being in a crazy emotional state, and I know some have gotten sentences reduced for being on their period.

Who was that woman that drowned her kids in her car in the lake? I wanna say she only got 20 years or something like that.

 

[jackswstd]

@ them dropping confetti over her as she sits strapped in the seat.

I hate that I laughed at this but I wouldn't be surprised.

 

[Blackking]

blackking revealing himself as a racist moron once again

why don't you just say you're against the death penalty all together? Your weird conditionals make you look racist/stupid/sexist

I'm not against the death penalty altogether... i just said it doesn't deter crime; which is a fact.

It's ok if you have something against my pov. It's not racist or stupid.. I guess you can say it's sexist.. but that part is not baseless. If you think it's racist then you're obviously ignorant. Peace.

 

[acri1]

No real reason to have the death penalty at all. I'm against it in all cases, even if I personally think some criminals probably deserve it.

• The way it's apportioned is and always will be racist/sexist/class-ist. White people get off easier than minorities, women get off easier than men, and rich people get off easier than poor people. In particular, a killer is less likely to receive the death penalty if the victim is black.
  
  
• Also, giving someone the death penalty is more expensive to taxpayers than life in prison. You may think that shouldn't be true, but it is. In addition, it unnecessarily squanders the resources of courts, juries, and attorneys. It wastes funds that could be used for more useful things. Not only that; they are also time-consuming. The average death row inmate waits 12 years between sentencing and execution, and some sit in anticipation of their executions on death row for up to 30 years.
  
  
• The Death Penalty has never been proven to deter crime.
  
  
• Innocent people have and will be exectued. It's estimated that something like 1/10 of the people executed are innocent.
  
  
• I'd argue that it constitutes cruel and unusual punishment. There's a reason that most industrialized nations don't have it anymore. Most states don't either.
  

This is something I'd think religious cats would agree with me on, but for some reason it seems like religious people are MORE likely to support capital punishment.

Kinda weird to me..."thou shalt not kill" right? Maybe some people do deserve to die, but instead of letting a human court determine that, why not let god sort it out?