Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Posts Super Thread (Uppin 4 ol times sake))

[Black_Jesus]

It's only one person saying that and it's the dude known for being difficult and who has avoided tough fights for years.

Is the person known for lying though?... Hell just look at all these bogus ass ppvs Haymon been throwing out left and right..show me a guarantee for anyone of em.. Charles Martin v Ortiz.. Ortiz vs Ruiz.. WIlder vs Viking guy.. Tank vs rolie/ceuz/etc..

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Look at the last question you ask, and ask yourself this…

What fighter came to the table in a huge fight with no promotional company?

And, if TC wins, gets a big bag he doesn’t have to split a 1000 ways and learns his business, Arum Haymon etc and promotional tactics from the past 60 years are in trouble, correct or no?

Again, look at other sports and music. Those who don’t sign agents or sign under bigger companies trying to deny the rights to the artist.

This is unbelievably easy to recognize.

Canelo been doing this the past few years and been cleaning up.

 

[Hov]

Canelo been doing this the past few years and been cleaning up.

From what I recall, Canelo (the king of Mexico) is doing business with Hearns (UK and new company) to bring the biggest supporting market to DAZN.

TC has to work with Al who has the fighter he wants to fight, and no black fighter currently carries their race or culture like a Canelo. So TC has to work with Al, Canelo situation is different.

Business, your starting to see it

 

[JP_614]

Man let this shyt die out fellas we can keep going back and fourth it’s a new year coming up. Maybe we can get the fight early next year. This shyt is dead man

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

From what I recall, Canelo (the king of Mexico) is doing business with Hearns (UK and new company) to bring the biggest supporting market to DAZN.

TC has to work with Al who has the fighter he wants to fight, and no black fighter currently carries their race or culture like a Canelo. So TC has to work with Al, Canelo situation is different.

Business, your starting to see it

Canelo is a free agent he can go where he wants, just like Crawford. Crawford doesn't have to work with PBC hence him signing to fight for a dating app.

Canelo worked with PBC when they had a fighter he wanted to fight just like Crawford is trying to do. Canelo as his own promoter got a fight done, Crawford cannot for whatever reasons.

As far as that last little smart remark I'll let you make it, I haven't watched Crawford's IG live because I personally don't like it when someone continues to insult my intelligence with their bullshyt. Fight aint happening next, Crawford fans can enjoy his next captivating fight on BLK date night promo.

 

[threattonature]

I assumed this was PBC plan all along, but as soon as Crawford became a free agent PBC representatives came out saying that they weren't interested in developing him as a PPV star and they weren't sure if they could pay him what he wants. We, the fans, are kind of assuming that PBC wants anything to do with this fight when it could be entirely possible that the shot callers don't give a fukk about Crawford or making that fight between him and Spence. You questioning why Haymon would shyt on him with a no guarantee offer like Al Haymon needs Bud Crawford.....


This the interview i'm referencing PBC executive: Terence Crawford vs Errol Spence Jr hasn’t happened because the money isn’t there, Crawford hasn’t been built as PPV star

Props on providing receipts. This goes back to my theory I've said before. I think Crawford was demanding a bigger guarantee than Haymon wanted to pay out. So Hayman probably countered by telling him that if the fight is as big as Crawford thinks then just take a percentage of the money generated instead of the guarantee. Makes sense on both sides why it didn't happen if that's the case and both sides angle would be understandable.

 

[Controversy]

There's something off-putting about Spence and Haymon going out of their way to make sure Bud doesn't get paid what he's supposed to. In reality, this should be a 50/50 split with guarantees on both sides, and Bud has already compromised way more than he should have. Those dudes either don't want the smoke, or they're deliberately trying to fukk over another black man for a shyt ton of money. Both scenarios are a terrible look for them

It wasn't supposed to be a 50/50 fight...that went out the window when Errol won a 3rd belt...couple that with him being a bigger draw...so he actually has more to lose

If both had 2 belts, and Crawford was just as big of a draw...it would be a 50/50 split bc the metrics would back up that negotiating position

Gotta separate feelings from business...Errol had more leverage to earn a higher split

Bud is trying to cash out bc he doesn't have many opportunities left for 8 figure fights

If ppl want to say they support Bud's position, that's fine, but no reasonable trusted advisor/business mind would have told Errol to take a 50/50

 

[Champ_KW]

saddest part is the total disrespect by these Spence groupie twink boys, of a black fighter standing on his own and being his own boss with his own team sitting at the negotiation table.. Not only that he bringing multiple deals to the table.. And all these faggits can do is play stupid like they cant follow what Bud is talking about OR they straight up calling him a liar.. It was Haymon's job to investigate these companies willing to invest and find out if its bullshyt or not.. Like Bud said Haymon said he not letting NOBODY else get there hands on the fight

You're right. We should support a black man being his own boss and getting what he's worth. I never really took the time to look at it like that. Right on, bro.

Oh, since we're both in agreement that Bud isn't a liar and that other companies have invested in the event, shoot me the link to where I can buy tickets to his fight thats a month away?

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[Black_Jesus]

You're right. We should support a black man being his own boss and getting what he's worth. I never really took the time to look at it like that. Right on, bro.

Oh, since we're both in agreement that Bud isn't a liar and that other companies have invested in the event, shoot me the link to where I can buy tickets to his fight thats a month away?

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didn't they say it was a private event?

 

[Champ_KW]

didn't they say it was a private event?

A sanctioned world championship boxing match that's supposed to generate enough revenue to pay a $10M guarantee to ONE fighter is a private event with no ticket sales?

 

[Hov]

Canelo is a free agent he can go where he wants, just like Crawford. Crawford doesn't have to work with PBC hence him signing to fight for a dating app.

Canelo worked with PBC when they had a fighter he wanted to fight just like Crawford is trying to do. Canelo as his own promoter got a fight done, Crawford cannot for whatever reasons.

As far as that last little smart remark I'll let you make it, I haven't watched Crawford's IG live because I personally don't like it when someone continues to insult my intelligence with their bullshyt. Fight aint happening next, Crawford fans can enjoy his next captivating fight on BLK date night promo.

So you are either getting your information from YouTubers not involved with anything but thier camera at home, or press releases from big companies that don’t reveal anything, or you are making shyt up out of thin air, than actually sit down and listen to the actual person involved and then have an informed opinion based on that.

Instead you throwing an internet hissy fit because you can’t see the fight you want to see.

This how people get got. Why don’t you go listen to the live, try to line up the details with what you think and what you know, and form an opinion from that? Because we ain’t heard from NONE of the parties involved, but somehow you seem to “know” who is wrong…like really think about that boss man

 

[Black_Jesus]

A sanctioned world championship boxing match that's supposed to generate enough revenue to pay a $10M guarantee to ONE fighter is a private event with no ticket sales?

Its gon generate whatever it generates.. Why are you as a fan even concerened about some shyt like that though.. Thats BLK Primes money to lose.. Not yours and not Crawfords.. You new age boxing fans non stop in other nikkas pockets

 

[Black_Jesus]

So you are either getting your information from YouTubers not involved with anything but thier camera at home, or press releases from big companies that don’t reveal anything, or you are making shyt up out of thin air, than actually sit down and listen to the actual person involved and then have an informed opinion based on that.

Instead you throwing an internet hissy fit because you can’t see the fight you want to see.

This how people get got. Why don’t you go listen to the live, try to line up the details with what you think and what you know, and form an opinion from that? Because we ain’t heard from NONE of the parties involved, but somehow you seem to “know” who is wrong…like really think about that boss man

Spence fans dont wanna hear the truth.. They dont even wanna here a different persepective other than Spence and PBC badly wanted this fight or Bud is ducking.. Anything other than that they covering their ears like children

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

So you are either getting your information from YouTubers not involved with anything but thier camera at home, or press releases from big companies that don’t reveal anything, or you are making shyt up out of thin air, than actually sit down and listen to the actual person involved and then have an informed opinion based on that.

Instead you throwing an internet hissy fit because you can’t see the fight you want to see.

This how people get got. Why don’t you go listen to the live, try to line up the details with what you think and what you know, and form an opinion from that? Because we ain’t heard from NONE of the parties involved, but somehow you seem to “know” who is wrong…like really think about that boss man

I'm not throwing a hissy fit at all, I'm actually quite exhausted with this situation. I been posting in the ring regularly for years, you aint ever been around in here. I've just constantly seen for years everything they have said about Terence Crawford is being confirmed in front of our eyes.

I don't want to watch his live because I've seen the cliff notes about it being discussed on here, boxing news 24, boxing scene, facebook, instagram, and youtube. Most people who have been following this situation are basically saying Crawford sounds like he is full of shyt. The IG live has been described more closer to damage control. The excuses he has given in the past for a few years now have made zero sense and quite frankly I feel like it's an insult to my intelligence to even entertain them any further.

Like I said in the random thoughts thread he who has the most to say usually has the most to hide. The fact this nikka told CAPpinger they were basically done with the deal for the fight(cause only Crawford has a relationship with all these ESPN guys who are reporting news on a showtime fight*red flag right there*) just for a few weeks later him to pull this fight out the hat told me all I needed to know. This is the fight he wanted all along, and just like the last 4 years he has used Errol Spence name to keep himself relevant and sell his bullshyt ass fights that his 'fans' constantly give him passes for.

 

[Deafheaven]

Idk from what it sounds like is I can DM crawford right now saying I got 50 million for him to fight on spankbang and he would go entertain it