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Those on the opposite side of the country, like a Serb from Banja Luka and a Serb from Southern Serbia, could even have difficulty understanding each other, since the dialects are quite different...
(more than the difference between the English dialects of Calgary and Texas... )
OK This is along the lines of what I was asking.

So they ARE somewhat different people. Even linguistically.
 

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Would love to hear how my post is hate speech after Serbians committed the majority of ethnic cleansing in the region and are still bent towards that goal @FAH1223

I'm really all ears
 

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Serbians committed the majority of ethnic cleansing in the region
Typically when we say region we intend ex-Yugoslavia.

Serbians are people from Serbia.

The title for the majority of ethnic cleansing is sadly not so clear...

Check this:
Operation Storm - Wikipedia
The International Criminal Tribunal for the former Yugoslavia (ICTY), set up in 1993 based on the UN Security Council Resolution 827,[190] indicted Gotovina, Čermak and Markač for war crimes, specifically for their roles in Operation Storm, citing their participation in a joint criminal enterprise aimed at the permanent removal of Serbs from the ARSK-held part of Croatia. The ICTY charges specified that other participants in the joint criminal enterprise were Tuđman, Šušak, and Bobetko and Červenko,[191] however all except Bobetko were dead before the first relevant ICTY indictment was issued in 2001.
Tuđman was the Croatian president at the time...

There war also another smaller one shortly before:
Operation Flash - Wikipedia
Another consequence of Operation Flash was the displacement of the Serb population from the area—estimated at 13,000 to 14,000 prior to 1 May 1995.

Those two operations have ethnically cleansed Serbs from Croatia... today their number there is negligible...

(You might notice in basketball less talent from Croatia, since the ethnically cleansed area was also an area of tall people, now they have just Dalmatian mountains...)





What you can say is that Serbs committed the majority of genocides, since they did commit the genocide in Srebrenica.
The ethnic cleansing is not so clear...



Anyway sentences were judged and served for all of the crimes in the region.
Some were maybe short (like Naser Orić, with the explanation that he was young at 25 for the command under the siege), some died before the sentence...

...but there is no reason to argue for any ethnic cleansing now...
 

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Depends.
What's the difference between WASPs in Canada and in the US?

Those close to the common border are fairly similar, and for them the border is just administrative formality.





Those on the opposite side of the country, like a Serb from Banja Luka and a Serb from Southern Serbia, could even have difficulty understanding each other, since the dialects are quite different...
(more than the difference between the English dialects of Calgary and Texas... )





You can't kick anyone out of a home and tell them to go elsewhere.

When you do it to an ethnic group it's called ethnic cleansing.

No one is suggesting Bosnian Serbs leave their areas (Srpska) and go to Serbia

I'm saying why isn't Srpska and Serbia joined together?

Why isn't Croatian parts of BH joined with Croatia?

Middle part you leave for Bosniaks

Kosovo joined with Albania

Khalas
 

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No one is suggesting Bosnian Serbs leave their areas (Srpska) and go to Serbia

I'm saying why isn't Srpska and Serbia joined together?

Why isn't Croatian parts of BH joined with Croatia?

Middle part you leave for Bosniaks

Kosovo joined with Albania

Khalas

Dapped for knowing the terminology and situation...
And for not arguing for removal of ethnicities...


I'm afraid the solution is not that simple...

Serbs and Croats would generally love the division of Bosnia and Herzegovina, but Bosniaks would hate it, and they often accuse the other two ethnicities of having such endgame...
Their fear is understandable, because such division would make foreigners out of a significant portion of Bosniaks...


And any long term solution can't leave one side miserable, it will backfire in the long run...



Serb and Bosniak relationship is delicate, but it has been improving with time, both in Bosnia and Herzegovina, and in Sandžak:
Sandžak - Wikipedia

Serbian president was in Sarajevo last year, and the cooperation is good.
He gave a couple of interviews to arguably their greatest journalist Senad Hadžifejzović...
The comments on YouTube were mostly a love fest (strange for such a platform), which made me incredibly proud of all of us...
Even if astroturfed, and possibly even better, since we remember how you make propaganda for a war...
(As much as I despise the current Serbian president and his history, unfortunately sometimes a right-winger has a greater political capital to ensure peace, and not seem weak in the process).



Together Belgrade and Sarajevo are now finally building a highway between them...



Sandžak is very important for this relationship, and there is now a state university there in Novi Pazar, and their politicians have been participating in Serbian government for decades now...




(For Americans possibly the easiest way to check if there is a war propaganda back at home
is to check for common videos of NBA players of different ethnicities,
and compare them to the atmosphere in Once Brothers documentary from 30 for 30 series).

We see the improving trends in politics, in trade, in culture, in sports...
I'd be somewhat afraid to interrupt such improvements now...




Kosovo is a more difficult issue... mostly for linguistic differences and more animosity, and a couple of unresolved issues:
- a Serb region in the north:
North Kosovo - Wikipedia
- the Albanian region in Serbia that rebelled even against the democratic government after Milošević (the government that pacified Sandžak):
Liberation Army of Preševo, Medveđa and Bujanovac - Wikipedia
- the issue is linked to Macedonia as well
(film recommendation for the atmosphere before the war:
Before the Rain (1994) - IMDb )

- bright spot: Montenegro - an Albanian-Serb coalition got an Albanian elected...



Personally, I'm much more afraid of a possible conflict in Kosovo...
 

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Correct, although I live in Italy.

I noticed The Coli almost a decade ago probably the only way a Serbian of my age can, because of basketball emojis and basketball talk...

I've stayed because of HL, a rather unique place...
can you make this simple for me?

whats the difference between Bosnian serb and Serbian serb?
 

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