Tennessee Republicans vote to allow clerks to refuse marriage licenses to LGBTQ+ couples and interracial couples

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

"They'll never repeal abortion!"

"They'll never repeal affirmative action!"

"They'll never repeal voting rights!"

"They'll never repeal gay marriage!"

...

"They'll never repeal interracial marriage..."

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Quick glance, and current amendment stops requiring county clerks and staff to preside over wedding ceremonies. Doesn't prevent others on the list from doing it. Nor does it allow official to block a wedding license for a wedding that was solemnized by others legally authorized to do so.

Full text of the Tennessee Law which was just amended


I get it about rolling back laws incrementally, etc, but this is along the lines of what I meant by lets talk about what is happening right now.

Stop taking white supremacist theocrats at their word. The loophole is this:

What if you go to get married and theres "no one available" to help you

In this case, they're not blocking your wedding...they're just not able to help you.

This is how it starts.

Again, Jim Crow was NOT as explicit as you think it was. It was very subtle and was in the gray area of law that allowed loopholes to be exploited to the explicit purpose to reducing the rights of others through de facto means.

 

[Samori Toure]

You typed of all that to not negate anything I said. There was no way that after 1862, when the Union was ‘freeing’ thousands of ‘contraband’ Africans that the institution could be preserved. This is why, in part, the Radical Republicans pushed for the Emancipation Proclamation. The other significant piece is that the Radical Republicans knew that nearly half the population of the South was enslaved and those enslaved Africans kept the South’s economy, under US Navy blockade, ticking.

The American Navy had already commenced the Union blockade of Southern ports by 1861.

The Emancipation Proclamation did not free any slaves. It was a ploy by Lincoln to antagonize Southern slave holders. It was ineffective because the Souuth had seceded from the Union and was under the Confederate States of America. Meanwhile the Proclamation didn't apply to slaves being held in places like Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri and Delaware which were in the North.

 

[Adeptus Astartes]

What to stop them from refusing to marry prostitutes? What’s to stop them from refusing to marry those who don’t honor their parents?

Then why call IR marriage a stretch?

 

[Amo Husserl]

Black people need to come together like Voltron.
This ADOS/FBA need to revive the spirit and we need to start showing up again, this time with money and a plan.

 

[get these nets]

Have to say this. Not to any person or group, but just my opinion about political discussions in 2023.
Elected officials, talking heads, public intellectuals are funded and promoted by special interests. Have incentive to publicly rubber stamp stances and jump when told , and as high as told.
I'm used to them doing that. Nature of the game.

Nobody here is on the payroll, so it is natural that individuals have differences of opinion. I think some here take cues directly from your thought leaders, and jump when they jump, are outraged when they're outraged, and ignore what they ignore. No thanks, I will form my own opinions and articulate my own views. And adjust them as facts and realities dictate. We laugh at people who parrot YTers, but I think politics talking head parrots are just as bad.

LGBTQ interests and groups are focused on issues to the extent that it affects them. "Allies" to the extent of promoting their interests. Think people lose sight of that.

 

[IIVI]

It's a shame when you think of how many people died and how many more people worked their ass off to get these laws right in the first place.

Crazy to think in 2023 shyt is getting reversed, not the late 1960's.

Additionally, it's always about exceptions and precedents: they do wrong to one group, they can always ask "Why can't we do it to the other?"

The last few decades, many people got comfortable and maybe even spoiled with "equality".

You never should forget how bad they want to come for you and how they will never treat you as an equal.
The older generation who knows about how low people can go are old now and many no longer with us, so we're left with people who have no context about those times.

Ya'll forgetting how easily those laws change because of the politicians that get voted in.
Don't ever get comfortable and lenient on voting and holding people accountable.

Don't get juked by the ookie-doke and ignorance (divide and conquer). Those folks used those tactics to fool the older generations, don't let it play you too.

 

[NinoBrown]

It's not our fight, not even our state, they are on their own down there...

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

The American Navy had already commenced the Union blockade of Southern ports by 1861.

The Emancipation Proclamation did not free any slaves. It was a ploy by Lincoln to antagonize Southern slave holders. It was ineffective because the Souuth had seceded from the Union and was under the Confederate States of America. Meanwhile the Proclamation didn't apply to slaves being held in places like Maryland, Kentucky, Missouri and Delaware which were in the North.

I think you lack reading comprehension, often (which is why we’re engaged in a back and forth).

How did you interpret from my paragraph that the Union blockade began after 1862? It was Scott’s 1861 Anaconda Plan…

Can you point out where I implied the late start date of the Union blockade?

 

[Samori Toure]

I think you lack reading comprehension, often (which is why we’re engaged in a back and forth).

How did you interpret from my paragraph that the Union blockade began after 1862? It was Scott’s 1861 Anaconda Plan…

Can you point out where I implied the late start date of the Union blockade?

I don't think you know what the Hell you are writing about. That is the bottom line.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Then why call IR marriage a stretch?

Christians aren’t against IR marriage; racists are.

Many Christians are against gay marriage. So it makes sense to think someone would try to use “religious beliefs” as a reason to disallow gay marriage.

Lumping IR marriages into this was a reach on the “against their conscience” wording, but that leap could be made for literally anything. So yes, it is a stretch.

 

[Burned Verses]

Pro black nikkas running interference for republicans as usual

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I don't think you know what the Hell you are writing about. That is the bottom line.

I don’t think you know how to read.

 

[Samori Toure]

I don’t think you know how to read.

Especially stuff written by people that don't know what they are writing about.

 

[Chrishaune]

A person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the person's conscience or religious beliefs.

This is literally all that bill says.

Go Google it.

Propaganda to get uninformed people upset. It didn't mention anything this thread title. It's protecting the people who don't want to do it from having to because of their beliefs.

This is where wars start, trying to force people to do what they don't want to do.