Tell me what top wrestling company would showcase their Black talents like Impact Wrestling

[Wacky D]

The way I see it, all of these companies are inherently racist so whether they decide to put black people in certain spots or not will never prompt me to give them some undeserved props because we know how they really feel. I'm not saying don't watch or enjoy any company and be mad, like what you like. I still sporadically watch bits of it myself but I'm also realistic and not about to praise Impact for their bare minimum ass booking of black characters that even then is still flawed as fukk. For every Lashley or Rich Swan there's a Monty, Creed, and Pope who didn't get the opportunities they deserved just like you said.

We acting like Chris Bey is getting some amazing spotlight off of one segment like he didn't just get booked in a shytty X Division title reign where it was ended mad quick to some generic dude with nowhere near the potential and star power as him. Them booking black talents in a way that isn't a complete minstrel show in 2020 isn't exactly praise worthy. WWE has Hurt Biz, New Day, Street Profits, Keith Lee, Bianca and Sasha all in prime spots at the moment so it's not like Impact is doing something they aren't right now but we enjoy it all for what it is and know not to put them on some pedestal for it because we know they're still racist.

lol @ this.

bare-minimum?? right out the gate, they made ron killings the 2nd champion in TNA, and that was technically the first real title run in TNA period. how the hell is that the bare minimum?

how you gonna say monty, creed and pope didnt get the opportunities they deserved??
monty dipped out early.
creed got what he deserved.
pope?? maybe im missing something there. im one of those TNA fans who were chased away by hogan/bischoff. so i missed most of his run, but from what i saw, TNA was the peak of his career.

your WWE list is weak. you got the nerve to talk about "bare minimum", then you post this chit. none of them have accomplished resumes in the WWE like that except the tag teams and sasha. but we know tag team wrestling is just sidebar chit in the WWE, and sasha's resume of accomplishments should be far greater than it is. and im sure you know this.

the rest of your list aint really doing chit. theyre letting them get their shine but theyre not doing anything of significance - which is the definition of BARE MINIMUM. way to contradict yourself.

they couldve just left keith lee in NXT, but instead, the hot-shotted the belt off of him. which is funny, cuz you have the nerve to complain about chris bey not getting a longer run with the x-title. nevermind the fact that he got a bigger push into the world title scene right afterwards, and apparently rohit raju is half-black??

chit that makes the last three x-division champions black.
and pretty much the entire title world title picture is blacked-out right now.
but you call that bare minimum, while propping up bianca & the hurt biz ranking up wins against nobodies. SMH. the audacity.

and chit, the hurt biz was way better in TNA.
and lashley took the TNA title off of mcintyre in TNA. there was no chance that was gonna happen in the WWE tho.
what is the hurt biz doing now anyway, outside of jobbing to the new day, because MVP referenced their shuckin-n-jiving back when he was on impact. so the WWE has to get their wins back for their boys. and before that, all they really did was beat up other black wrestlers, and beef with mustafa ali's jobber stable that i already forgot the name of. they just turned them into another nation of domination. have a spark when you start, but eventually just end up beating down other black wrestlers, then have feuds with inferior stables like DOA and the los boriquas.

but in TNA, they were THE SHOW. they ran that bi*ch.
but let you tell it, TNA did the bare minimum.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

how else were they supposed to respond??

they already put all their chips in for that show. there was no turning back.
i remember they were even promoting "hard to kill" on urban radio stations. who knows how many other outlets they were pouring money into for that show.

then add the fact that 98% of people with big opnions on what they shouldve done, are people who dont even watch impact either way.

and like homie said earlier, if tessa was a male, they wouldve changed their plans. but given all they built towards, and the other factors i just brought up, their hands were tied.

The amount of people caping for impact shytting on black fans by "sticking it to cancel culture" and making tessa champ in this thread is really amazing. Just because they promoted the ppv hard or whatever dumbass reason you tried to use to justify sticking with the booking decision doesnt mean they had to stick with it. At that point whatever marketability tessa had and whatever payoff they thought they'd get from tessa winning was no longer a factor, because her reputation was destroyed and they could have easily saved face by making her lose, instead they faced backlash and then got told to kick rocks by tessa herself. Wasn't nobody about to stop watching if Tessa lost.

lol @ this.

bare-minimum?? right out the gate, they made ron killings the 2nd champion in TNA, and that was technically the first real title run in TNA period. how the hell is that the bare minimum?

how you gonna say monty, creed and pope didnt get the opportunities they deserved??
monty dipped out early.
creed got what he deserved.
pope?? maybe im missing something there. im one of those TNA fans who were chased away by hogan/bischoff. so i missed most of his run, but from what i saw, TNA was the peak of his career.

your WWE list is weak. you got the nerve to talk about "bare minimum", then you post this chit. none of them have accomplished resumes in the WWE like that except the tag teams and sasha. but we know tag team wrestling is just sidebar chit in the WWE, and sasha's resume of accomplishments should be far greater than it is. and im sure you know this.

the rest of your list aint really doing chit. theyre letting them get their shine but theyre not doing anything of significance - which is the definition of BARE MINIMUM. way to contradict yourself.

they couldve just left keith lee in NXT, but instead, the hot-shotted the belt off of him. which is funny, cuz you have the nerve to complain about chris bey not getting a longer run with the x-title. nevermind the fact that he got a bigger push into the world title scene right afterwards, and apparently rohit raju is half-black??

chit that makes the last three x-division champions black.
and pretty much the entire title world title picture is blacked-out right now.
but you call that bare minimum, while propping up bianca & the hurt biz ranking up wins against nobodies. SMH. the audacity.

and chit, the hurt biz was way better in TNA.
and lashley took the TNA title off of mcintyre in TNA. there was no chance that was gonna happen in the WWE tho.
what is the hurt biz doing now anyway, outside of jobbing to the new day, because MVP referenced their shuckin-n-jiving back when he was on impact. so the WWE has to get their wins back for their boys. and before that, all they really did was beat up other black wrestlers, and beef with mustafa ali's jobber stable that i already forgot the name of. they just turned them into another nation of domination. have a spark when you start, but eventually just end up beating down other black wrestlers, then have feuds with inferior stables like DOA and the los boriquas.

but in TNA, they were THE SHOW. they ran that bi*ch.
but let you tell it, TNA did the bare minimum.

You're making it seem like I'm using WWE as an example to counter Impact's booking of black wrestlers, please save the lecture I don't give a fukk about WWE like that either. I think WWE is racist and full of shyt for how they handle black characters just like Impact is for how they handled the Tessa situation and them booking black wrestlers as not complete jokes doesn't negate that nor does it warrant praise and multiple capes.

Impacts booking of black wrestlers might not be the "bare minimum" by the standards of an industry that is historically racist because what else is their fukking competition when it comes to that? The company that had a discrimination lawsuit and the company with 1 fully black WWE Champ in it's history or the company that is 1.5 years old? They get the booking of their black wrestlers maybe 40-50% right and for wrestling standards thats good because WWE barely gets it right at all. But again, for the 100th time, STOP USING WWE AS A MEASURING STICK TO COMPARE HOW OTHER COMPANIES HANDLE BLACK WRESTLERS. I didn't say shyt about WWE and y'all kept quoting me mentioning them and that's the only reason why I mentioned their black wrestlers.

Monty Brown should have been a world champion, he wasn't. Why is Xavier Woods in a way better position in WWE than he ever was in TNA given the optics? Pope should have been a world champion and Okada got his whole swag from him and is one of the most highly coveted wrestlers alive based in part on what he got from him and yet Impact didn't see that in him. Ron Killings got two quick ass Sasha Banks-esque title reigns and then they took the title off of him right before they debuted on TV. Bare minimum. But hey it's better than his "little Jimmy" shtick and that's all that matters right? Now feel free to justify why Impact deserves getting praise for anything relating to race following the Tessa debacle without using WWE's incompetence as a crutch.

 

[Playaz Eyez]

Stop using the company that’s been around for more than 40 years, the company that everyone wants to get to eventually, as the measuring stick....LMAOOO another failure of a post. You’re 0/3.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

Stop using the company that’s been around for more than 40 years, the company that everyone wants to get to eventually, as the measuring stick....LMAOOO another failure of a post. You’re 0/3.

Yet you're too p*ssy to quote me, how is a company historically and notoriously known for holding back black talent the measuring stick on how to book black talent you fukking idiot?

 

[Wacky D]

The amount of people caping for impact shytting on black fans by "sticking it to cancel culture" and making tessa champ in this thread is really amazing. Just because they promoted the ppv hard or whatever dumbass reason you tried to use to justify sticking with the booking decision doesnt mean they had to stick with it. At that point whatever marketability tessa had and whatever payoff they thought they'd get from tessa winning was no longer a factor, because her reputation was destroyed and they could have easily saved face by making her lose, instead they faced backlash and then got told to kick rocks by tessa herself. Wasn't nobody about to stop watching if Tessa lost.


You're making it seem like I'm using WWE as an example to counter Impact's booking of black wrestlers, please save the lecture I don't give a fukk about WWE like that either. I think WWE is racist and full of shyt for how they handle black characters just like Impact is for how they handled the Tessa situation and them booking black wrestlers as not complete jokes doesn't negate that nor does it warrant praise and multiple capes.

Impacts booking of black wrestlers might not be the "bare minimum" by the standards of an industry that is historically racist because what else is their fukking competition when it comes to that? The company that had a discrimination lawsuit and the company with 1 fully black WWE Champ in it's history or the company that is 1.5 years old? They get the booking of their black wrestlers maybe 40-50% right and for wrestling standards thats good because WWE barely gets it right at all. But again, for the 100th time, STOP USING WWE AS A MEASURING STICK TO COMPARE HOW OTHER COMPANIES HANDLE BLACK WRESTLERS. I didn't say shyt about WWE and y'all kept quoting me mentioning them and that's the only reason why I mentioned their black wrestlers.

Monty Brown should have been a world champion, he wasn't. Why is Xavier Woods in a way better position in WWE than he ever was in TNA given the optics? Pope should have been a world champion and Okada got his whole swag from him and is one of the most highly coveted wrestlers alive based in part on what he got from him and yet Impact didn't see that in him. Ron Killings got two quick ass Sasha Banks-esque title reigns and then they took the title off of him right before they debuted on TV. Bare minimum. But hey it's better than his "little Jimmy" shtick and that's all that matters right? Now feel free to justify why Impact deserves getting praise for anything relating to race following the Tessa debacle without using WWE's incompetence as a crutch.

im not using the WWE's incompetence as a crutch. YOURE the one who came in here listing off WWE wrestlers and it backfired on you. OP didnt single out the WWE either. he simply said that TNA has done a better job at pushing black wrestlers than any other major promotion, and youve done a piss-poor job at arguing against it.

what does tessa have to do with black wrestlers being pushed?? not a dam thing. and like i said, they had everything invested into that match. you can ignore it if you want, but the fact remains, it was too late to turn back and scrap everything in 24 hours. did you even watch?? they had people crying in the crowd and chit.

ron killings' 2nd run was transitional, but the 1st run was not short. i dont know where youre getting that from.

monty brown wasnt even hot that long before he left.
i will say that he was on the verge of winning the belt before they signed christian. that dropped him down a slot, then he signed with the WWE shortly afterwards. but youre painting a picture as if he was under-utilized - which is far from the truth. i even remember his O.G. run as a contender for the belt when he was still green as peas.

yall need to stop acting live Xavier is some juggernaut in the WWE. hes the spokesman/fall guy for the new day. stop acting like hes brock lesnar - you know the guy who beat the entire new day in a 1-on-3 handicap match in the WWE.

i remember Pope being a top heel in TNA before i bounced. if you watched that era and feel he shouldve went all the way and been champ, then i'll let you call it.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

im not using the WWE's incompetence as a crutch. YOURE the one who came in here listing off WWE wrestlers and it backfired on you. OP didnt single out the WWE either. he simply said that TNA has done a better job at pushing black wrestlers than any other major promotion, and youve done a piss-poor job at arguing against it.

what does tessa have to do with black wrestlers being pushed?? not a dam thing. and like i said, they had everything invested into that match. you can ignore it if you want, but the fact remains, it was too late to turn back and scrap everything in 24 hours. did you even watch?? they had people crying in the crowd and chit.

ron killings' 2nd run was transitional, but the 1st run was not short. i dont know where youre getting that from.

monty brown wasnt even hot that long before he left.
i will say that he was on the verge of winning the belt before they signed christian. that dropped him down a slot, then he signed with the WWE shortly afterwards. but youre painting a picture as if he was under-utilized - which is far from the truth. i even remember his O.G. run as a contender for the belt when he was still green as peas.

yall need to stop acting live Xavier is some juggernaut in the WWE. hes the spokesman/fall guy for the new day. stop acting like hes brock lesnar - you know the guy who beat the entire new day in a 1-on-3 handicap match in the WWE.

i remember Pope being a top heel in TNA before i bounced. if you watched that era and feel he shouldve went all the way and been champ, then i'll let you call it.

I simply mentioned the Tessa Blanchard situation as to why Impact doesn't deserve praise for anything race related and 100 nikkas quoted me using WWE's history to deflect. I said WWE is even more racist so no need to bring them up, you don't see me praising them for booking (insert black talents in prominent positions here) a certain way because I know they're racist, and then you proceeded to go on a tangent about WWE and their black talents still, so what are you talking about beloved?

It would have cost absolutely nothing to make Tessa lose and would have actually saved them the public embarrassment of how that reign ended. Bbbbbut people in the crowd cried so they had to crown the racist!

 

[Wacky D]

I simply mentioned the Tessa Blanchard situation as to why Impact doesn't deserve praise for anything race related and 100 nikkas quoted me using WWE's history to deflect. I said WWE is even more racist so no need to bring them up, you don't see me praising them for booking (insert black talents in prominent positions here) a certain way because I know they're racist, and then you proceeded to go on a tangent about WWE and their black talents still, so what are you talking about beloved?

It would have cost absolutely nothing to make Tessa lose and would have actually saved them the public embarrassment of how that reign ended. Bbbbbut people in the crowd cried so they had to crown the racist!

dont insult my intelligence.
i didnt go on tangent about the WWE. i was responding to that bullchit list you posted.

AGAIN, what does the tessa situation have to do with black wrestlers getting pushed?? absolutely nothing.
you act as if the OP was trying to get TNA nominated for an NAACP award or something.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

dont insult my intelligence.
i didnt go on tangent about the WWE. i was responding to that bullchit list you posted.

AGAIN, what does the tessa situation have to do with black wrestlers getting pushed?? absolutely nothing.
you act as if the OP was trying to get TNA nominated for an NAACP award or something.

U went on a tangent about WWE because of your failure to comprehend why I name dropped the black wrestlers in WWE trying to fish a debate out of me from a point I never made

And AGAIN for the millionth time, Impact doesn't deserve praise for anything race related after how they handled the Tessa situation. I bolded it and even changed the font color this time so maybe you can see

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Since Day 1 . The only misses they ever had were taking too long to put the strap on Monty Brown and the Pope and maybe not finding a role for Creed before he left for the WWE.

Even then 2 of those 3 had their best runs in TNA/Impact.

They even had Kenny King swagged out in the Beat Down Clan .

I'll give them a pass for Creed because he was green as hell.
Making big stars out of Ron Killings & Bobbly Lashley, though...

 

[Wacky D]

U went on a tangent about WWE because of your failure to comprehend why I name dropped the black wrestlers in WWE trying to fish a debate out of me from a point I never made

And AGAIN for the millionth time, Impact doesn't deserve praise for anything race related after how they handled the Tessa situation. I bolded it and even changed the font color this time so maybe you can see

i didnt fish for a debate. i simply responded to your post. youre just mad because you got called out for it. now youre trying to deflect. if you werent trying to prove a point, then what was the purpose of that list??

and AGAIN for the millionth time, the bolded is silly.

 

[SpacelySprockets]

i didnt fish for a debate. i simply responded to your post. youre just mad because you got called out for it. now youre trying to deflect. if you werent trying to prove a point, then what was the purpose of that list??

and AGAIN for the millionth time, the bolded is silly.

you nikkas been deflecting from my point of Impact not deserving praise for race matters this whole thread by attempting to fish the "bbbut WWE debate" out of me because nobody had any direct answers to the Tessa thing until you Juelzed that bullshyt excuse, my issue with it might be silly to you but you're a c00n to me for going this hard over it and trying to justify the Tessa situation so I guess we're even

I listed most of the prominent black people in WWE because they are all being showcased right now, albeit in a flawed way and not to the extent that they deserve to be and I'm not about to argue that.. that's why they don't deserve praise and that's why you could have saved your novel, the same way TNA doesn't deserve praise for putting Chris Bey in a segment teasing that he wants the title after shytting on him with the way they booked his X-Division title reign

3 black world champions in their damn near 20 year history out of all of the black talent to come in and out of the door but lets suck their dikk because it's at least better than WWE right? Totally not the bare minimum forget the Tessa situation that's irrelevant

 

[Bryan Danielson]

I have no horse in this race and cool with everyone in here as “there are fine people on both sides”

But fukk it..... @Wacky D won

 

[SpacelySprockets]

The guy with 42 posts in the tessa thread caping for her and excitedly fantasy booking a potential WWE run disagrees with me? I guess I'm wrong after all

 

[Bryan Danielson]

It was a close race if that makes you feel any better

 

[Dave7]

Impact is doing great with there black talent, shoot all there talent really. The program with Moose has been great(I really hope he tells Kenny Omega his title ain’t shyt tonight ), Chris Bey is in the title picture, shoot they even pulled the trigger with Rohit Raju, and that’s been entertaining as hell. And Tasha Steelz and Kiera Hogan are a couple matches away from winning the Women’s Tag Titles

Impact been giving it up to the real talent and creating stars