Tell me what top wrestling company would showcase their Black talents like Impact Wrestling
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SpacelySprockets
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Tessa got a world title reign from Impact and then told them to kick rocks by going AWOL, never even formally losing it and left by choice. I'm sure if they had their way she'd still be in the company right now but she left because she knows opportunity awaits her elsewhere, that's hardy "getting what she deserved". You're in for a rude awakening when she inevitably pops up on AEW or WWE.Nah not at all. But I also don't think things go down the same way if Tessa was a guy and if Moose and Kiera don't come out defending her. I wasn't a fan of Impact putting the belt on Tessa, I even drew up and posted a way to get Rich to take her place and take the belt off Callihan to build to a Rich Swann/Willie Mack feud in the Tessa thread here. COVID rendered Tessa's reign irrelevant though and she's unemployed so she got what she deserved at the end of the day. Also that first female world champ shyt isn't even true Sexy Star won the Lucha Underground Championship.
Virtually nobody claimed Impact was some super progressive company either we've all just acknowledged that they've given black talent the ball when other companies wouldn't and they've consistently booked black talent in ways where they weren't flat out minstrel show characters. We can speculate on the reasons why they've done that (them being progressive and all that) but at the end of the day they've done it
But whilst you're here breh please answer the question in the title and tell us which top wrestling company has given black talent a fairer shake than TNA/Impact have since they've been around so we can go support them? We can sit here and point out how they mismanaged the Tessa Blanchard situation but exactly where are black wrestling fans supposed to go and shouldn't we acknowledge it when we see our own doing well? Or are we just supposed to stay mad until there's a black owned wrestling company that's on a black owned TV network where the network owner has gone above and beyond to prove that they're not a c00n?
Show us the way.
The way I see it, all of these companies are inherently racist so whether they decide to put black people in certain spots or not will never prompt me to give them some undeserved props because we know how they really feel. I'm not saying don't watch or enjoy any company and be mad, like what you like. I still sporadically watch bits of it myself but I'm also realistic and not about to praise Impact for their bare minimum ass booking of black characters that even then is still flawed as fukk. For every Lashley or Rich Swan there's a Monty, Creed, and Pope who didn't get the opportunities they deserved just like you said.
We acting like Chris Bey is getting some amazing spotlight off of one segment like he didn't just get booked in a shytty X Division title reign where it was ended mad quick to some generic dude with nowhere near the potential and star power as him. Them booking black talents in a way that isn't a complete minstrel show in 2020 isn't exactly praise worthy. WWE has Hurt Biz, New Day, Street Profits, Keith Lee, Bianca and Sasha all in prime spots at the moment so it's not like Impact is doing something they aren't right now but we enjoy it all for what it is and know not to put them on some pedestal for it because we know they're still racist.
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Playaz Eyez
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^it took the WWE til 2019 to give Kofi his moment and took the pandemic for them to give the Hurt Business the type of backing they could’ve had beforehand. It’s 2020 and the WWE in its current iteration has been around since 1980, meaning they’ve had every chance and all the time in the world to back a black person for the top title. TNA was formed in 2002, and Ron Killings was their second champion. Impact was way ahead of the curve on certain things while the WWE actively avoided stuff. Doesn’t excuse the Tessa stuff recently, but I’m not gonna give the WWE a pat on the back when they have to have their hand forced to acknowledge stuff they should’ve been acknowledged.
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wwe welcomed back hogan like nothing ever happened
i dont wanna hear shyt about that tessa shyt
they was putting belts on known racists and sex offenders like it was nothing
but it took these wwe 40 fukking years have a black dude as they champ
i dont wanna hear shyt about that tessa shyt
they was putting belts on known racists and sex offenders like it was nothing
but it took these wwe 40 fukking years have a black dude as they champ
SpacelySprockets
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Y'all should practice holding other companies accountable without using WWE as a measuring stick for how to handle racists. Just because WWE does it doesn't mean Impact or any other company should get a pass. Not sure what's hard to understand about that concept, hold everybody(that means WWE too) accountable and stop deflecting.
Playaz Eyez
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This was actually a deflecting post, cause people HAVE held other companies accountable. Again, these other companies have been ahead of the curve on giving people opportunities, while the company with every single resource available and a 30+ year head start failed year in and year out.
SpacelySprockets
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Doing the bare minimum isn't being ahead of the curve. It just makes you the least shytty smelling turd out of the two or three. If this was a thread about WWE putting black wrestlers in prominent positions I'd shyt on them too but it's about Impact right now.. constantly bringing up "but WWE is even more racist" just takes Impact off of the hook. They don't deserve praise period.
The guy he lost to is half-black.
his progression has been great,he was a jobber just a few years for a company that came on tv late at night now he's a star
Playaz Eyez
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Having a black man presented in a serious fashion winning the top title in your company in its first year as a company isn’t the bare minimum at all. So again, you’re terribly wrong.
Art Barr
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So we gon keep ignore'n jay lethal had two belts in roh.
In a year where aj styles only looked clearly dominant to those not in the know.
Plus roh has always put on for the likes of the gresham's, Shane Taylors and Kenny kings too.
Also,...no performer black or white. Has topped jay lethal versus flair. Regardless how many try to steal the whole vignette or portions of the promos here and there.
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In a year where aj styles only looked clearly dominant to those not in the know.
Plus roh has always put on for the likes of the gresham's, Shane Taylors and Kenny kings too.
Also,...no performer black or white. Has topped jay lethal versus flair. Regardless how many try to steal the whole vignette or portions of the promos here and there.
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I agree, that's why I defended TNA/IMPACT for years, no matter what Dixie did.
But somehow the company's gotten more ridiculous without Dixie than with her.
I respect the hell out of Willie Mack, Chris Bey, and Rich Swann, but the company's gotten so cartoonishly bad that it brings them down with it.
I miss the day of the Beat Down Clan with Lashley holding all of the belts and shyt like that.
It's crazy we thought they were going out of business then, but that looks like the glory days in comparison to "Who Shot Bravo?" and "Wrestle House"
But somehow the company's gotten more ridiculous without Dixie than with her.
I respect the hell out of Willie Mack, Chris Bey, and Rich Swann, but the company's gotten so cartoonishly bad that it brings them down with it.
I miss the day of the Beat Down Clan with Lashley holding all of the belts and shyt like that.
It's crazy we thought they were going out of business then, but that looks like the glory days in comparison to "Who Shot Bravo?" and "Wrestle House"
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i was just about to make a thread concerning how this arm-chair revolutionist board always talks a big game about how black wrestlers should be used, but never supports the promotions that actually push black wrestlers properly, and instead these phonies continue to stay stuck on the WWE plantation.
and i was also gonna say how rich swann's title run is going ignored on here, but a couple of white canadians are instantly making this place jump and check for impact.
theyve been doing this from day 1.
where you been???
how else were they supposed to respond??
they already put all their chips in for that show. there was no turning back.
i remember they were even promoting "hard to kill" on urban radio stations. who knows how many other outlets they were pouring money into for that show.
then add the fact that 98% of people with big opnions on what they shouldve done, are people who dont even watch impact either way.
and like homie said earlier, if tessa was a male, they wouldve changed their plans. but given all they built towards, and the other factors i just brought up, their hands were tied.
and i was also gonna say how rich swann's title run is going ignored on here, but a couple of white canadians are instantly making this place jump and check for impact.
theyve been doing this from day 1.
where you been???
how else were they supposed to respond??
they already put all their chips in for that show. there was no turning back.
i remember they were even promoting "hard to kill" on urban radio stations. who knows how many other outlets they were pouring money into for that show.
then add the fact that 98% of people with big opnions on what they shouldve done, are people who dont even watch impact either way.
and like homie said earlier, if tessa was a male, they wouldve changed their plans. but given all they built towards, and the other factors i just brought up, their hands were tied.
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Since Day 1. The only misses they ever had were taking too long to put the strap on Monty Brown and the Pope and maybe not finding a role for Creed before he left for the WWE.
Even then 2 of those 3 had their best runs in TNA/Impact.
They even had Kenny King swagged out in the Beat Down Clan.
i mean, Creed isnt cut out to be a solo star.
they made him a tag champ, which is what he is now in the WWE.
and they made him look stronger in TNA, instead of being a 3rd-wheel weak-link who rarely scores a pin.
only thing WWE did better was realize his star-power on the mic - which is what it all boils down to tho. but i wouldnt say TNA dropped the ball on him or anything.
replace Creed with elix skipper.
i feel like skipper shouldve got an x-division title run, especially seeing how he was a star already before TNA existed.
that and i dont like how they didnt want to give him the #1 TNA moment from the cage spot at turning point and bumped him to #2 and eventually not mentioned at all. but the WWE wouldve did him way dirtier than that, so its whatever.
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