Telegram CEO Arrested

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idk what it's like in the US because I haven't changed carriers in years but they even have my social lmao

In Europe like a decade or more ago they required your national id card or passport where I lived just to buy a phone I'm sure it's even more strict now


I'm sure there are still avenues around that but

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Buying a phone is pretty easy, lower end carriers don't care as much. You can give a fake name and fake address. NO ID. But, once you have the phone, to use all those apps and social media, usually requires some kind of credit card. Some kind of real info being given. And a lot of people will plug their phone into the car, for music, for whatever, and all your data is then able to be taken from there. Short explanation a lot of people don't bother.

Like some of my goofy friends were using Signal to send pretty small amounts of marijuana from SD to Denver, but on their actual phones. 8 years ago. Like the ones in their name. One, nobody gives a fukk about a QP of weed. Two, no one's going to monitoring your IMessage for no reason.
 

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The problem with privacy is it can't be partial.

Either you have full privacy or you have given government a full backdoor to eavesdrop on you. There's no in-between.

If you make something that is fully private, best believe bad actors will be using it. And then the government will say you're culpable because you knew and still didn't cooperate/give them access.

This is actually a huge issue. Companies that want to make real privacy are forced into being ran/hosted from countires like Cyprus and shyt.

I know there are always people who say "well I got nothing to hide" but reality is when you give up some privacy, you give up all of it.
 

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From his Telegram channel:

❤️ Thanks everyone for your support and love!

Last month I got interviewed by police for 4 days after arriving in Paris. I was told I may be personally responsible for other people’s illegal use of Telegram, because the French authorities didn’t receive responses from Telegram.

This was surprising for several reasons:

1. Telegram has an official representative in the EU that accepts and replies to EU requests. Its email address has been publicly available for anyone in the EU who googles “Telegram EU address for law enforcement”.

2. The French authorities had numerous ways to reach me to request assistance. As a French citizen, I was a frequent guest at the French consulate in Dubai. A while ago, when asked, I personally helped them establish a hotline with Telegram to deal with the threat of terrorism in France.

3. If a country is unhappy with an internet service, the established practice is to start a legal action against the service itself. Using laws from the pre-smartphone era to charge a CEO with crimes committed by third parties on the platform he manages is a misguided approach. Building technology is hard enough as it is. No innovator will ever build new tools if they know they can be personally held responsible for potential abuse of those tools.

Establishing the right balance between privacy and security is not easy. You have to reconcile privacy laws with law enforcement requirements, and local laws with EU laws. You have to take into account technological limitations. As a platform, you want your processes to be consistent globally, while also ensuring they are not abused in countries with weak rule of law. We’ve been committed to engaging with regulators to find the right balance. Yes, we stand by our principles: our experience is shaped by our mission to protect our users in authoritarian regimes. But we’ve always been open to dialogue.

Sometimes we can’t agree with a country’s regulator on the right balance between privacy and security. In those cases, we are ready to leave that country. We've done it many times. When Russia demanded we hand over “encryption keys” to enable surveillance, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Russia. When Iran demanded we block channels of peaceful protesters, we refused — and Telegram got banned in Iran. We are prepared to leave markets that aren’t compatible with our principles, because we are not doing this for money. We are driven by the intention to bring good and defend the basic rights of people, particularly in places where these rights are violated.

All of that does not mean Telegram is perfect. Even the fact that authorities could be confused by where to send requests is something that we should improve. But the claims in some media that Telegram is some sort of anarchic paradise are absolutely untrue. We take down millions of harmful posts and channels every day. We publish daily transparency reports (like this or this ). We have direct hotlines with NGOs to process urgent moderation requests faster.

However, we hear voices saying that it’s not enough. Telegram’s abrupt increase in user count to 950M caused growing pains that made it easier for criminals to abuse our platform. That’s why I made it my personal goal to ensure we significantly improve things in this regard. We’ve already started that process internally, and I will share more details on our progress with you very soon.

I hope that the events of August will result in making Telegram — and the social networking industry as a whole — safer and stronger. Thanks again for your love and memes 🙏
 
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