Tariq Nasheed's FBA Mural for The FBA Museum

[Bunchy Carter]

Then why act upset when you get the reaction That you wanted.

If it was about championing the work of Tariq you could've posted it in the Tariq mega thread and kept it movin''
But post something crazy (because even if you rock with Tariq you know it's crazy) and get a plat thread out of it.

Tariq could be the second coming of Malcolm X but not everyone is gonna rock with him, why is that not Ok with you?

I'm not upset, I'm laughing lol.....that's called projection lol..you nikkkas are mad, I'm laughing at you nikkas.

You nikkas came in here on some:

And I expected that to happen, that is why I'm

 

[Wiseborn]

I'm not upset, I'm laughing lol.....that's called projection lol..you nikkkas are mad, I'm laughing at you nikkas.

You nikkas came in here on some:

And I expected that to happen, that is why I'm

Why are you making threads just to laugh? It makes Tariq and you seem unserious.

fukk all the bullshyt the biggest problem with FBA as a concept taking off is all the Bussy and Jollof Rice jokes.

Granted shyt is good for a laugh but say the F-word in any capacity in the entertainment world and see if you don't get shut all the way down.

You used to be able to say Blood and Money don't mix like two dikks and no bytch find yourself in serious shyt. Why can't you say this now? because a bunch of gay people and allies just decided not to tolerate it any more.

Just think what could've been accomplished with the Museum if a few rich nikkas contributed. You talk about being on Code? well that would require the greatest number of people and you don't know who will help the most.

Just on a strategic level a big tent philosphy works the best

 

[Wiseborn]

I'm not upset, I'm laughing lol.....that's called projection lol..you nikkkas are mad, I'm laughing at you nikkas.

You nikkas came in here on some:

And I expected that to happen, that is why I'm

How do you know nikkas ain't laughing at you?

Think about it at the end of the very few people attack Tariq personally basically the crtics say He's a grifter and that gets a ton of Why you hating? Why can't you support a Black Man? If you say Why you hating on Umar That's different.

You know that dude who always says Most Honorable Tariq Nasheed is clowning him right? None of yáll Riq supporters every seem to catch that. The Manweave thread is was just being blantant at that point.

 

[Bunchy Carter]

Why are you making threads just to laugh? It makes Tariq and you seem unserious.

fukk all the bullshyt the biggest problem with FBA as a concept taking off is all the Bussy and Jollof Rice jokes.

Granted shyt is good for a laugh but say the F-word in any capacity in the entertainment world and see if you don't get shut all the way down.

You used to be able to say Blood and Money don't mix like two dikks and no bytch find yourself in serious shyt. Why can't you say this now? because a bunch of gay people and allies just decided not to tolerate it any more.

Just think what could've been accomplished with the Museum if a few rich nikkas contributed. You talk about being on Code? well that would require the greatest number of people and you don't know who will help the most.

Just on a strategic level a big tent philosphy works the best

Yassss bytch you tell them FBA nikkas, you gathered them nikkas:

Lol

 

[Wiseborn]

Yassss bytch you tell them FBA nikkas, you gathered them nikkas:

Lol

Just like you totally Drug the anti Traiq crowd.

nikkas are sassy as shyt these day the oppositie of the dude who's name you took.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

People like you are delusional because you think that Africa is a "country" that starts with Ghana and ends with Nigeria. How did you create the most extensive infrastructure for it? Most prolific at what? Most of the pre-colonial and even independence movements in the diaspora, including the Continent, New World, and even Afro-Arabia, were not fought by you or with your help.

Many of you say "Well, we made it possible for Africans to come to the US. And this is pan-Africanism."...
But how? Less than 1% of Africans live outside of Africa, and even less than that live in the US. Not only that, the US is a majority non-black country.

And, If we look at the best economies and most stable countries in Africa. From Botswana, and Namibia to Swaziland, Gabon, Mauritius etc. These are the countries that interacted the least with the diaspora and the most with their surrounding countries. They are upper-middle-income countries. Not countries like Ghana, Benin, Sierra Leone, Liberia, or even Nigeria, the countries with the most interactions with the diaspora and that are way far behind.

theres really no net benefit bigger within the diaspora thats more beneficial,thaN WHAT AFRAMS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE. We have done more for others than anyone has done for us.

Who are these groups you speak of, what have they done for us or blacks in the west

And yes the biggest infrastructure. Garvey moved to the states for a reason

 

[GoPinheiro]

theres really no net benefit bigger within the diaspora thats more beneficial,thaN WHAT AFRAMS HAVE BEEN ABLE TO PROVIDE. We have done more for others than anyone has done for us.

What exactly have you provided to most Africans? Zero. You are comparing one ethnic group to an entire continent, to try to paint the pathetic idea that you did a lot. A spin-off of the white American way of debating. Of singularizing my group, and generalizing other groups.
If you get into specifics, and analyze case by case, comparing AAs as an ethnic group to also each one of the larger ethnic groups in Africa, the reality is that you never did anything for like 99% of the ethnic groups in Africa. So, just like they did nothing for you, you also did nothing for them.

Who are these groups you speak of, what have they done for us or blacks in the west

There are more than 3,000 ethnic groups in Africa. With many groups numbering at least 1 million. What have you done for most of them? Zero. There is a reason people like you know nothing more than a few assimilated groups from places such as Ghana and Nigeria, that were mostly propped as civilized by your western media. There is way more to Africa than that. The most developed countries in Africa, are the ones that interacted the least with the diaspora, and the most with their surrounding countries. You can check it yourself.

And yes the biggest infrastructure. Garvey moved to the states for a reason

What infrastructure? Did you provide land and resources? You were in control of the States? And Garvey was from Jamaica, that also lived in the UK. Just like the US, a majority-white country, then and now.
What does that have to do with most Africans? NOTHING. Most African intellectuals and warriors never lived in the US or Europe. Again, less than 1% of the total population of Africans live outside of Africa. It was way lower than that when Garvey was alive.

And, when Garvey was alive and living in the US, Mandume was in Africa defeating and killing a combined force of Portuguese, Boer, and German soldiers. Not talking, doing. Are we playing or what? You also provided infrastructure for him to engage in guerrilla warfare, right? Let's stop playing games...

Again, there is more to Africa than certain regions of West Africa like Ghana, Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Pick a map and you will understand that.

 

[K.O.N.Y]

What exactly have you provided to most Africans? Zero. You are comparing one ethnic group to an entire continent, to try to paint the pathetic idea that you did a lot. A spin-off of the white American way of debating. Of singularizing my group, and generalizing other groups.
If you get into specifics, and analyze case by case, comparing AAs as an ethnic group to also each one of the larger ethnic groups in Africa, the reality is that you never did anything for like 99% of the ethnic groups in Africa. So, just like they did nothing for you, you also did nothing for them.



There are more than 3,000 ethnic groups in Africa. With many groups numbering at least 1 million. What have you done for most of them? Zero. There is a reason people like you know nothing more than a few assimilated groups from places such as Ghana and Nigeria, that were mostly propped as civilized by your western media. There is way more to Africa than that. The most developed countries in Africa, are the ones that interacted the least with the diaspora, and the most with their surrounding countries. You can check it yourself.



What infrastructure? Did you provide land and resources? You were in control of the States? And Garvey was from Jamaica, that also lived in the UK. Just like the US, a majority-white country, then and now.
What does that have to do with most Africans? NOTHING. Most African intellectuals and warriors never lived in the US or Europe. Again, less than 1% of the total population of Africans live outside of Africa. It was way lower than that when Garvey was alive.

And, when Garvey was alive and living in the US, Mandume was in Africa defeating and killing a combined force of Portuguese, Boer, and German soldiers. Not talking, doing. Are we playing or what? You also provided infrastructure for him to engage in guerrilla warfare, right? Let's stop playing games...

Again, there is more to Africa than certain regions of West Africa like Ghana, Nigeria, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Pick a map and you will understand that.

your missing the point

the fact is THAT WE DID SOMETHING. Doing something, than making sure you did it for all 50+ countries in Africa, for it to count, is disingenuous and not how this works. Using your argument, it should have been all the more easier for that to be reciprocated since we're only one ethnic group. But it wasnt im asking for something similar coming in our direction that resembles what we put out

were we supposed to provide the sun, the stars and the moon as well

what has been done except leaving us isolated in the West............. Then going on to use our presence in the west to their benefit

 

[Biscayne]

Tariq is hilarious. But he did start the movement.

 

[Biscayne]

Because it comes off as bytchmade and people are attacking the concept

if he would have kept his pan-africanist stance, the same haters would be supporting everything hes doing.

A bunch of nikkas concerned about the price of t-shirts hes selling. Would be the same negroes talking about "but but but you go to Target and buy white owned products"

They were there for all his "latest GRIFTS" Now they making it something different

So yeah its proper to hate on phony nikkas like that

Even if you disagree with tariq, you shouldn't want to be in that particular company

This deserves 10 reps. When he was a pan Africanist “shill” he had support and black ppl across the diaspora urging other black ppl to throw money at him. When he came with the FBA angle, all of a sudden he’s a charlatan, a shill, a grifter, unqualified.

 

[Uncouth Savage]

This deserves 10 reps. When he was a pan Africanist “shill” he had support and black ppl across the diaspora urging other black ppl to throw money at him. When he came with the FBA angle, all of a sudden he’s a charlatan, a shill, a grifter, unqualified.

Is it concerning to you that tariq is quite probably a homosexual?
As is yvette

Nothing wrong with that
I mean that, folks are free to do as they wish

the issue is for example some of their followers
the women are ROUGH AND TOUGH
and the men are giggling comedians

is that concerning?

Have they redefined manliness/feminity?

 

[GoPinheiro]

your missing the point

the fact is THAT WE DID SOMETHING. Doing something, than making sure you did it for all 50+ countries in Africa, for it to count, is disingenuous and not how this works. Using your argument, it should have been all the more easier for that to be reciprocated since we're only one ethnic group.

Of course, it doesn't work that way for you, because it exposes how pathetic is your narrative.

Yeah, you did something, just like there are groups that did something for you. There are countries that have offered you the opportunity to get land and citizenship. In the past, and in the present. Can you do that in the US? No, you are not the dominant society to do that in the US.

Does that mean that most Africans did something that benefitted you? Of course not. Just like you didn't do anything that benefitted most Africans. That's my main point. You avoid specificity because it would expose how big of a nonsense your comment related to infrastructure is. You use generalizations to pass the idea of "WE, as an ethnic group, DID A LOT" and because of that helped "The Entire or Most or even 25% of the people In the Continent". And that's pathetic.

How have you provided the biggest infrastructure when you are still subjects of the American empire? Let me guess, because some Africans, out of a population of 1.2 Billion, live in the US, a country that is white-majority and dominated?

But it wasnt im asking for something similar coming in our direction that resembles what we put out

were we supposed to provide the sun, the stars and the moon as well

Again, I have provided examples above and will provide more below...

No one asked you to provide the sun, stars, or moon, because again, the most stable, wealthiest, and fast developing are the ones with the least contact with the diaspora. Meaning, that they would benefit from interacting more with the diaspora, but even without doing that, they are still doing really fine.

what has been done except leaving us isolated in the West............. Then going on to use our presence in the west to their benefit

The highlighted part makes zero sense. You are part of the US Empire. If you had your own country, of course, there would be massive trade between Black America and different African countries. There are trade agreements right now being signed between Africa and the Caricom countries. Why? Because they are separated countries and entities. Your case is the same as Afro-Saudis. They are like 10 million people but are still subjects of the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia. Of course, they are also in isolation. Caricom countries have presidents and prime ministers to represent them. Who represents you? Who is the leader?

But still, there are specific countries that have offered you land and the opportunity to get easy citizenship. There are AAs that make a lot of money as ex-pats in Africa, working for African companies, such as multinationals like Debtswana. Some have created companies and even have priority contracts with different African states. One of the biggest black mining companies in the US is the Pula Group, founded and managed by an African-American. A company that gets priority contracts in the exploration of gold and graphite in many African countries. Now, name the resources that you provided through the biggest infrastructure ever.

Who is using your presence in the West to benefit themselves? Name the countries, and how they got better due to doing that...I will wait

 

[K.O.N.Y]

Of course, it doesn't work that way for you, because it exposes how pathetic is your narrative.

Yeah, you did something, just like there are groups that did something for you. There are countries that have offered you the opportunity to get land and citizenship. In the past, and in the present. Can you do that in the US? No, you are not the dominant society to do that in the US.

Does that mean that most Africans did something that benefitted you? Of course not. Just like you didn't do anything that benefitted most Africans. That's my main point. You avoid specificity because it would expose how big of a nonsense your comment related to infrastructure is. You use generalizations to pass the idea of "WE, as an ethnic group, DID A LOT" and because of that helped "The Entire or Most or even 25% of the people In the Continent". And that's pathetic.

How have you provided the biggest infrastructure when you are still subjects of the American empire? Let me guess, because some Africans, out of a population of 1.2 Billion, live in the US, a country that is white-majority and dominated?




Again, I have provided examples above and will provide more below...

No one asked you to provide the sun, stars, or moon, because again, the most stable, wealthiest, and fast developing are the ones with the least contact with the diaspora. Meaning, that they would benefit from interacting more with the diaspora, but even without doing that, they are still doing really fine.


The highlighted part makes zero sense. You are part of the US Empire. If you had your own country, of course, there would be massive trade between Black America and different African countries. There are trade agreements right now being signed between Africa and the Caricom countries. Why? Because they are separated countries and entities. Your case is the same as Afro-Saudis. They are like 10 million people but are still subjects of the Kingdom Of Saudi Arabia. Of course, they are also in isolation. Caricom countries have presidents and prime ministers to represent them. Who represents you? Who is the leader?

But still, there are specific countries that have offered you land and the opportunity to get easy citizenship. There are AAs that make a lot of money as ex-pats in Africa, working for African companies, such as multinationals like Debtswana. Some have created companies and even have priority contracts with different African states. One of the biggest black mining companies in the US is the Pula Group, founded and managed by an African-American. A company that gets priority contracts in the exploration of gold and graphite in many African countries. Now, name the resources that you provided through the biggest infrastructure ever.

Who is using your presence in the West to benefit themselves? Name the countries, and how they got better due to doing that...I will wait

Breh we have millions over here benefitting off our backs. That’s a fact

What are the countries that have offered us land and resources that would actually benefit us in the same fashion. The whole American empire thing is beside the point. It’s a place people of black descent can go to largely off our influence. There is no equivalent in in the reverse period

What has your country done to the benefit of blacks in the west?

Please don’t mention some “year of return” red tape nonsense

 

[GoPinheiro]

Breh we have millions over here benefitting off our backs. That’s a fact

You are just saying anything now...The US is a majority-white and dominated country. Using your logic, you also have millions of black Americans benefitting directly and indirectly from African resources. Because American companies profit billions from having their presence in Africa, they take this money and invest it back in the US, and you benefit from these billions because you are subjects of the US Empire...The opposite doesn't happen at all and that's a fact.

What are the countries that have offered us land and resources that would actually benefit us in the same fashion. The whole American empire thing is beside the point. It’s a place people of black descent can go to largely off our influence. There is no equivalent in in the reverse period

Again, a majority-white country. Where they make the rules. The rest is just you dancing around to avoid reality. There are millions of different black people(including AAs) living in the UK and France. So, what? These are still white-majority and dominated lands.

What has your country done to the benefit of blacks in the west?

Please don’t mention some “year of return” red tape nonsense

The Pula Group that I told you about. It is one of the biggest black-owned US mining companies, it employs many African-Americans and its biggest contracts come from my country. Botswana, a country that holds the second-largest diamond reserves after Russia. There are African American companies that have contracts with the government of Botswana and have access to resources and local investments.

Now, what have you done for the people of Botswana? Which tangible resources like land have you provided?

Please don't mention some "black American missionaries went there to preach a spin-off of a European and colonial religion" or "We fought for you to come here" nonsense.

Citizens of Botswana have free visa access to wealthy countries like South Korea, Hong Kong, the UK(we can stay for 6 months without a visa), Singapore, Russia, Israel, and Canada...And we rarely immigrate. We have one of the lowest immigration rates in the world. So don't even think about that nonsense. Point me to the tangibles...

Visa requirements for Botswana citizens - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[K.O.N.Y]

You are just saying anything now...The US is a majority-white and dominated country. Using your logic, you also have millions of black Americans benefitting directly and indirectly from African resources. Because American companies profit billions from having their presence in Africa, they take this money and invest it back in the US, and you benefit from these billions because you are subjects of the US Empire...The opposite doesn't happen at all and that's a fact.



Again, a majority-white country. Where they make the rules. The rest is just you dancing around to avoid reality. There are millions of different black people(including AAs) living in the UK and France. So, what? These are still white-majority and dominated lands.




The Pula Group that I told you about. It is one of the biggest black-owned US mining companies, it employs many African-Americans and its biggest contracts come from my country. Botswana, a country that holds the second-largest diamond reserves after Russia. There are African American companies that have contracts with the government of Botswana and have access to resources and local investments.

Now, what have you done for the people of Botswana? Which tangible resources like land have you provided?

Please don't mention some "black American missionaries went there to preach a spin-off of a European and colonial religion" or "We fought for you to come here" nonsense.

Citizens of Botswana have free visa access to wealthy countries like South Korea, Hong Kong, the UK(we can stay for 6 months without a visa), Singapore, Russia, Israel, and Canada...And we rarely immigrate. We have one of the lowest immigration rates in the world. So don't even think about that nonsense. Point me to the tangibles...

Visa requirements for Botswana citizens - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Africans who leave their homelands to come to the west are also benefiting than

With the us that process was made easier by fba. There’s no situation where millions of people going from generation to generation are benefiting on that level. Without fba there would be none of this in the USA. Comparing that to individual contracts is non sense.