Tariq Nasheed vs Andrew Schulz on The Brilliant Idiots...VIDEO ADDED

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Deflecting has to be top 5 overused, and wrongly used word on this site. Gravity, I definitely can appreciate your intelligence, you're far smart than most of proponents of Tariq.
Well when you avoid direct questions to talk all the way around points that you don't want to acknowledge, it's called a deflection. That's all you're doing in this thread. You operate just like Shultz.

So, I'll take over from here by saying this. If we want to be successful in the "dominant society," there's no one that can stop us. Calling someone a token is the dumbest shyt I've ever heard, and Tariq's explanation made him look like a fukking moron. You, me or anybody can as successful as we want to be. Nobody can "let" us do a damn thing. It's really up to us. Acknowledging them as the "dominant society" gives them power, and he gives them power when he says thing like "they let tokens become successful." Stop giving them power
Now you're contradicting yourself. You've already acknowledged the existence of white supremacy yet here you are trying to pretend as if it doesn't have an effect on our lives. You're either just trolling or you're one of these weak minded blacks who can't handle the truth. The reason that you hate on Tariq is because he is successful. You can't just dismiss him using that "if you stop complaining and just work hard you'd be successful, you're just making excuses". That's why I respect dude. Most successful blacks in the public eye in this country are dependent on whites which is why they can't blatantly call out white supremacy. Nasheed isn't handcuffed like that because he's self made.

Your argument here is very very simple and easily debunked. White supremacy is about keeping the white race as a collective supreme over the collective non white races, blacks especially. There's always been individual successful blacks and that has never negated the system of white supremacy. Madam CJ Walker was the most successful business woman in the country in the early 1900s, did that negate the existence of white supremacy? Whites will allow individual blacks to be successful but what they have shown time and time again that they won't allow is for blacks to achieve as a collective. Whether it's Rosewood in Florida or Tulsa in Oklahoma, there are countless examples of whites sabotaging and outright destroying black communities thriving without being dependent on whites. You do yourself a disservice by ignoring the reality of the situation that we're in. The fact that whites have the ultimate power in this society makes them dominant. How does that lying about that help you? How does lying about the fact that whites constantly plot to "stop us" help us? You can't solve or overcome a problem without identifying it. You're in denial. We've got an open extremist white supremacist in the White House and you've still got your head in the sand. Blacks like you are a lost cause.
 

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Well when you avoid direct questions to talk all the way around points that you don't want to acknowledge, it's called a deflection. That's all you're doing in this thread. You operate just like Shultz.

Now you're contradicting yourself. You've already acknowledged the existence of white supremacy yet here you are trying to pretend as if it doesn't have an effect on our lives. You're either just trolling or you're one of these weak minded blacks who can't handle the truth. The reason that you hate on Tariq is because he is successful. You can't just dismiss him using that "if you stop complaining and just work hard you'd be successful, you're just making excuses". That's why I respect dude. Most successful blacks in the public eye in this country are dependent on whites which is why they can't blatantly call out white supremacy. Nasheed isn't handcuffed like that because he's self made.

Your argument here is very very simple and easily debunked. White supremacy is about keeping the white race as a collective supreme over the collective non white races, blacks especially. There's always been individual successful blacks and that has never negated the system of white supremacy. Madam CJ Walker was the most successful business woman in the country in the early 1900s, did that negate the existence of white supremacy? Whites will allow individual blacks to be successful but what they have shown time and time again that they won't allow is for blacks to achieve as a collective. Whether it's Rosewood in Florida or Tulsa in Oklahoma, there are countless examples of whites sabotaging and outright destroying black communities thriving without being dependent on whites. You do yourself a disservice by ignoring the reality of the situation that we're in. The fact that whites have the ultimate power in this society makes them dominant. How does that lying about that help you? How does lying about the fact that whites constantly plot to "stop us" help us? You can't solve or overcome a problem without identifying it. You're in denial. We've got an open extremist white supremacist in the White House and you've still got your head in the sand. Blacks like you are a lost cause.

I don't hate on Tariq because he's successful, I criticize him for fear mongering. And it also looks like we're back to square one with this white supremacy shyt being this all encompassing thing.

It appears that you're hating on me for not playing up this victim shyt. I'm well aware of Rosewood, and Tulsa, but should we stop trying, and just accept that no matter we do, white supremacy is gonna destroy our progress, or should we adopt another attitude? nikkaz sounding defeated before they even attempt anything.

That's my issue.

We can also start winding down this conversation since it appears that some of you wanna curl up in a ball, sit in the corner, and wait for somebody who doesn't allow anything to stop them to come along and say "they're a c00n for not doing anything for the black community."
 

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I don't hate on Tariq because he's successful, I criticize him for fear mongering. And it also looks like we're back to square one with this white supremacy shyt being this all encompassing thing.
You will forever be on square one because you're a coward who won't even take a position and stand firmly behind it. You deny that white supr act is all encompassing but you won't say what it doesn't encompass. I've literally asked you over and over to explain what part of the system isn't controlled by white supremacy and you haven't done so yet. It's because you know that you're full of shyt.

It appears that you're hating on me for not playing up this victim shyt.
You're not anyone to hate on from what I can see. You're just some dummy on the internet talking out of both sides of his mouth. I don't know if you're a victim or not. I know that black people are victims of white supremacy. You acknowledge white supremacy but deny that blacks are victims of it which is a blatant contradiction. The only way to deny that blacks are victims is to deny the existence of white supremacy. So which is it? Get your bullshyt straight.

I'm well aware of Rosewood, and Tulsa, but should we stop trying, and just accept that no matter we do, white supremacy is gonna destroy our progress, or should we adopt another attitude? nikkaz sounding defeated before they even attempt anything.
This is a straw man argument. Nobody has ever said that we should give up and stop trying. The point in bringing up Tulsa and Rosewood was to prove that whites take deliberate actions to sabotage black empowerment which you've tried to deny. Acknowledging the reality of the situation doesn't equate to giving up and not trying. The best way to avoid traps is to identify them and know where they are. The best way for blacks to overcome and sidestep the trappings of systematic white supremacy is to identify them and understand what they are. The problem with blacks is that as a collective we don't understand or accept the fact that the system is literally set up to keep us oppressed.

Whites want blacks who think like you because you can be used to do their bidding which is exactly what you're doing. c00ns like you side with crackers like Shultz against black people like Nasheed. You're in here deflecting from white supremacy while tearing a black man who calls it out down:francis:


We can also start winding down this conversation since it appears that some of you wanna curl up in a ball, sit in the corner, and wait for somebody who doesn't allow anything to stop them to come along and say "they're a c00n for not doing anything for the black community."
fukk you. This isn't a conversation. You're a stupid willfully ignorant c00n. I'm just exposing you and your mentality for what it is. Black people need to see c00ns/crackers and their nonsensical talking points exposed because some blacks are easily fooled even if they shoukd know better. That's evident by the handful of posters on the first couple of pages wjo ignorantly thought that Shultz made some good points and got the better of this "debate".
 

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@Gravity, re-read the stupid you just said:

"You're a coward who won't even take a position and stand firmly behind it. You deny that white supr act is all encompassing but you won't say what it doesn't encompass."

Now you're talking in circles, because I clearly said:

"You, me or anybody can as successful as we want to be. Nobody can "let" us do a damn thing. It's really up to us."

Now you're starting to look like a coward, and a hypocrite. How do you call another black man a c00n for being fearless? fukk kinda sense does that make? Absolutely none.. Now I'm telling you that you're acting like a bytch, and I don't use that word often. I hate when nikkaz try seek approval, or permission from anybody. Be a fukking man. Tariq is creating a fleet of pussies. I can't respect that "they won't let me" shyt.

I thought you had a bit of intelligence, and i assumed you had a backbone, now I see that you don't have either.

I'm telling you that white supremacy is not gonna stop me from doing anything. I must be the one entity that white supremacy doesn't encompass.
 

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@Gravity, re-read the stupid you just said:

"You're a coward who won't even take a position and stand firmly behind it. You deny that white supr act is all encompassing but you won't say what it doesn't encompass."

Now you're talking in circles, because I clearly said:

"You, me or anybody can as successful as we want to be. Nobody can "let" us do a damn thing. It's really up to us."
That's not a position dummy. The issue is the existence of white supremacy and you're waffling on it. You say that you acknowledge that it exists but at the same time all of your arguments deny that it exists. Pick a side fakkit. These little dumb ass affirmations that you keep posting are nothing but a deflection. You either acknowledged that racism is ingrained in the system to keep whites supreme over blacks or you don't.
 

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That's not a position dummy. The issue is the existence of white supremacy and you're waffling on it. You say that you acknowledge that it exists but at the same time all of your arguments deny that it exists. Pick a side fakkit. These little dumb ass affirmations that you keep posting are nothing but a deflection. You either acknowledged that racism is ingrained in the system to keep whites supreme over blacks or you don't.

The reason why it's not sinking is because you think everything exists under the dome of white supremacy. I told you before that I whole heartedly believe in white supremacy. You act like a bytch, but let me ask you, hypothetically, if you wanted to be a billionaire, who's gonna stop you, and how are they gonna stop you?


Don't deflect, or any other that other bullshyt, just answer the question straight up.

Example how I believe that white supremacy exists: I'm far more likely to be stopped by the police and for no reason that other than being black, be accused of looking like someone who committed a crime. It's happened to me more than once, and it has always been a white officer. However, I didn't worry about getting shot, the thought didn't even cross my mind. I make the CAC look stupid, and he goes on about his business.
 

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The reason why it's not sinking is because you think everything exists under the dome of white supremacy. I told you before that I whole heartedly believe in white supremacy.
So name the parts of the system that don't fall "under the dome" of white supremacy. You keep denying that everything is controlled by white supremacy but you refuse to Los things not controlled he white supremacy. Stop asking these stupid ass questions while refusing to answer valid questions posed to you. These dumb questions illustrate that you don't even comprehend. Systematic white supremacy is not about individuals it's about the collective. Oprah the billionaire has been subjected to white supremacy. Obama was subjected to white supremacy while he was supposedly the most powerful man on earth. Achieving individual success as a black person does not negate the existence of white supremacy.
 

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So name the parts of the system that don't fall "under the dome" of white supremacy. You keep denying that everything is controlled by white supremacy but you refuse to Los things not controlled he white supremacy. Stop asking these stupid ass questions while refusing to answer valid questions posed to you. These dumb questions illustrate that you don't even comprehend. Systematic white supremacy is not about individuals it's about the collective. Oprah the billionaire has been subjected to white supremacy. Obama was subjected to white supremacy while he was supposedly the most powerful man on earth. Achieving individual success as a black person does not negate the existence of white supremacy.

To better answer your question, I'd like to ask you a question to clarify. Are you insisting that involves a white person managing, owning, or basically running something, is function of white supremacy? Im trying to nail down this goal post before it starts moving.

And don't worry, seeing as how you're so frightened by the big bad white man, I can certainly answer any pussified questions you have for me.
 

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To better answer your question, I'd like to ask you a question to clarify. Are you insisting that involves a white person managing, owning, or basically running something, is function of white supremacy? Im trying to nail down this goal post before it starts moving.

And don't worry, seeing as how you're so frightened by the big bad white man, I can certainly answer any pussified questions you have for me.
The question is already clear enough it doesn't need any clarification. I don't give a fck if you don't answer the question. I don't even give a fukk about your answer. I'm just exposing the fact that you're a coward who operates just like white supremacists themselves do. You ask a c00n/cracker a direct question and they bend over backwards to deflect. You're proof that c00ns are even worse.
 
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