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the 300 is putting in lots of work.
Look at what is happening to Joy Reid and the Kamala Harris media scramble.


Mainstream media only serves to prove the movement correct at this point. We're not looking for the mainstream media's approval. They are a non-factor.

You’re giving the general public too much credit.

All of the stuff we talk about is still a very niche thing being talked about amongst a minority of a minority.

This is still in a state where it can be hijacked like how the BLM and Fergerson protest were.

Right now people are using similar language/words but there is no offocial organizations yet. This leaves it open where anyone can start a splinter org using thensame words as another group but with totally different intentions.

I said in the past there needs to be offcial organizations and platforms so avoid confusion. Not having these things leaves it open for people to do the misdirection thing.
 

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You’re giving the general public too much credit.

All of the stuff we talk about is still a very niche thing being talked about amongst a minority of a minority.

This is still in a state where it can be hijacked like how the BLM and Fergerson protest were.

Right now people are using similar language/words but there is no offocial organizations yet. This leaves it open where anyone can start a splinter org using thensame words as another group but with totally different intentions.

I said in the past there needs to be offcial organizations and platforms so avoid confusion. Not having these things leaves it open for people to do the misdirection thing.
everything is niche until it is proliferated into the mainstream. Only when many people get on code is when something evolves into a common ideology
 

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everything is niche until is proliferated into the mainstream. Only when many people get on code is when something evolves into a common ideology

And we are in the age of social media. Without standardization you leave the door open for agents to run amok.
 

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And we are in the age of social media. Without standardization you leave the door open for agents to run amok.
Thats already happening. I like listening to tariq, pbt, tba, tone, and Yvette. I even put something on the melanoid ministries last night.

but I don't put much stock in these people I only take the information and do with it as I will. The code is the standard
 

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Thats already happening. I like listening to tariq, pbt, tba, tone, and Yvette. I even put something on the melanoid ministries last night.

but I don't put much stock in these people I only take the information and do with it as I will. The code is the standard

Of course. I see people forming tribes around youtube personalities and thats how movements get messed up. We gotta be honest, many people simply like to feel good listening to the messages and think thats all it takes.
 

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Of course. I see people forming tribes around youtube personalities and thats how movements get messed up. We gotta be honest, many people simply like to feel good listening to the messages and think thats all it takes.
I can understand your point. But I don't think it's that big of an issue. Looking at what people are doing on various online social media platforms, these black people are smart enough to think for themselves. This isn't the trolling black planet/boxden era of social media activism.

We can think for ourselves. In fact we're giving these so-called "leaders" a style for them to run with. how many times do we have to say the Tariq is getting his information from here?
 

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You’re giving the general public too much credit.

All of the stuff we talk about is still a very niche thing being talked about amongst a minority of a minority.

This is still in a state where it can be hijacked like how the BLM and Fergerson protest were.

Right now people are using similar language/words but there is no offocial organizations yet. This leaves it open where anyone can start a splinter org using thensame words as another group but with totally different intentions.

I said in the past there needs to be offcial organizations and platforms so avoid confusion. Not having these things leaves it open for people to do the misdirection thing.

Your right we need chapters.
 

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I can understand your point. But I don't think it's that big of an issue. Looking at what people are doing on various online social media platforms, these black people are smart enough to think for themselves. This isn't the trolling black planet/boxden era of social media activism.

We can think for ourselves. In fact we're giving these so-called "leaders" a style for them to run with. how many times do we have to say the Tariq is getting his information from here?

History says other wise but it is what it is at this point. :hubie:
 

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Your right we need chapters.

If people are serious you gotta look at things at the Macro level too and not just the Micro level (and vice a versa) because people tend oversimplify things assuming others are on the same page and then when the topic comes up the differences become exposed, and next you know people are forming a splinter movement of something that was already a splinter movement and confusion continues.
 

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If people are serious you gotta look at things at the Macro level too and not just the Micro level (and vice a versa) because people tend oversimplify things assuming others are on the same page and then when the topic comes up the differences become exposed, and next you know people are forming a splinter movement of something that was already a splinter movement and confusion continues.

I know with the Black Panthers, you had to get like 6 weeks worth of political education to join.
 

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If people are serious you gotta look at things at the Macro level too and not just the Micro level (and vice a versa) because people tend oversimplify things assuming others are on the same page and then when the topic comes up the differences become exposed, and next you know people are forming a splinter movement of something that was already a splinter movement and confusion continues.
What I think would be a better proposition, is to fully structure what the code is and means. The code could function like and probably should be a super PAC. Or like a corporation. The code needs to be a entity not the people.
 

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I know with the Black Panthers, you had to get like 6 weeks worth of political education to join.

And they still got infiltrated lol. At the end of the day with anything there will always be agents, you need need a method of punishing them.

However the Black Panthers would often ally with non Black Organizations under the guise of socialism and them non black orgs would tend to be on some other ish sometimes.

Gloablly Black people should be united under the guise of Black First and ending systematic white supremacy (this is the Macro level, agreeing white supremacy is the root cause of our current condition).

There should be global agenda that everyone is on the same page about which will be used to identify c00ns of other ethnicities when they are among you.

At the next level (say Country) there needs to be specific agendas for each nation because how white supremacy works in the USA is not the same as how it works in say Brazil.

And below that you then need city/regional agendas within those countries because the issues people in Alabama face for example may be different than what people in say California may be facing.

At all levels we understand blackness unites us and white supremacy is the issue and this is the foundational backbone. But then at the micro levels you act on the reguonal and ethnic specific issues (i.e. reperations owed to the people of that country i.e AADOS getting them from the USA, Hatians getting them from France in their country, etc etc).

Right now things are the wild wild west which leaves it open for misdirection and infiltration).

If you look at the 50s-70s different black organizations would look at what blacks in other countries that made progress were doing and adapted it to their needs in their country. The issue that was face then is black people had to depend on non blacks for access to infrastructure which led to non blacks using black people as puppets to push outside cold war agendas.
 
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