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nikkas get real quiet and start running when you ask them what punishment should be done to white supremacists and to people who practice and benefit from white supremacy.

This shyt too funny. nikkas just want to talk about white supremacy and prove if it exists or not and where it exist and where it don't exist.

Let it be a such thing called black supremacy that run the world and mistreat, keep resources away, miseducate, steal from, lie to, be decietful to, mass incarcerate, and kill with all non black people.

nikkas would be in here naming non stop punishment for black supremacists and black people who practice and benefit from black supremacy. They damn sure wouldn't be skipping on what should be done about it just to promote and uplift it by claiming black supremacy run the world and it's nothing nobody can do it and black supremacists will forever stay in power and stay wealthy while running the world.
 

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What I'm trying to figure out is how do yall go on and on about white supremacy day after day page after page. Talkin about how bad it is and how evil it is. But not one of yall that claim white supremacy exist can say what punishment y'all would want for the white supremacists and for people who practice and benefit from white supremacy. I've asked this same question since yesterday and y'all skip over it just to continue arguing about white supremacy existing.

Y'all nikkas must want it to exist because if the power was in y'all hands to stop white supremacy and punish the people who practice and benefit from it and give black people the resources and wealth y'all wouldn't do it.

I'm going to ask again.

If y'all who believe white supremacy exist could end white supremacy today and punish the people who practice and benefit from it. What would y'all want the the punishment to be for the white supremacists? And what would be the best solution y'all do for black people?
Ok to defeat white supremacy couple things must be done:
one is is diasporic Africans in the west to link up with like minded folk to invest and do buisness in Africa

Second is for African nations to be stable. Once those nations become stable they can focus in developing their economy. Africa is the richest continent in the world. If China can develop their economy in less than 40 years with little resources then african nations can. So for Africa to be stable that means ending corruption, fixing social issues, creating stable political systems not centered by one man(Mugabe,Kaddafi etc) but centered by one party (China,Singapore,Russia etc),crack down on militant groups armed and trained by the west and their proxies. Kick out all Western NGOs.

Then when that happens have at least 3 or four African great powers should rise. The fact Africa does not have an equivalent to a Turkey,Pakistan,South Korea,Iran,Vietnam,Israel etc. Nigeria has a bigger population than Russia and france and yet those countries have a bigger and more powerful military than Nigeria. Once you have 3 or 4 great military powers in Africa who are black.

Once you have that then those 3 or 4 power work together to provide stability on the continent. They also ally with powers who are hostile to the west(Russia,China,India etc). Limit trade to Europe and America. Also work with them to work against their interest in other countries to limit their power. For example have African countries destablizie Saudi Arabia with weapons because the West depends on them for oil.

Now the punishment phase. Do to them what they have done to African nations. Which is arm extremist groups in their own countries to destabilize them. Work with Latin American nations to destabilize the US by arming Mexican separatist in the southwest. Make them feel the horrors of war an chaos and instability. That way they will never have the power they once had. Isolate them economically then send in weapons to send their countries to ruin. That is how you defeat white supremacy. You do to them what they done to us. You make sure they never be able to retake power again. Make allies with other groups who share our hatred for white supremacy and tag team them.

I am totally for black power and dominance. We should give up on the ideas of equality and justice because never in the history of humanity has there ever been a system of justice and equality. In this world only the strong and brutal stay on top. Black people need to get out of this comic book thinking that good guys win and evil loses. We have to look at this struggle against white supremacy is a war. A war in many fronts.
 

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China's economy will not rely on the dollar for long. As I showed you in the previous posts, China is now trading with the Yuan which is undermining the dollar.
The dollar will eventually become useless and that's why America is starting to turn up its rhetoric against China (Trump and Tillerson).
China is now beginning to undermine not only Europe but also America.

Beware of ‘predatory’ Chinese investment in the Americas, warns Rex Tillerson

The US Secretary of State likened Chinese investment to European colonialism, and derided Russia for selling weapons to authoritarian governments
Beware of ‘predatory’ Chinese investment, warns Rex Tillerson

China's navy expands reach: Ships in Baltic for drills with Russia
https://www.cnn.com/2017/07/20/asia/china-navy-expansion-baltic-russia-drills/index.html

Chinese Navy Conducts Live-Fire Drill in Mediterranean Sea

Chinese Navy Conducts Live-Fire Drill in Mediterranean Sea

China also has more navy vessels in the Mediterranean than France. Cac supremacy no longer dominates China but it's something like a nuisance that will be dealt with eventually.
Another proof is that China has Nûkes. All of cac supremacy's pets (Arabia, Japan, Latin America, etc.) are not allowed to have Nûkes.
I don't know why you're cheerleading for China so hard but you haven't disproven anything that I've said. You're just babbling on and on in effort to deflect. You haven't even read the links that you've posted. You're just googling shyt.

Again, Tariq was right when he argued that whites have complete control over the Chinese in America and are in a dominant position which allows them to dictate to all other countries including China. All of that cheerleading you're doing for China is irrelevant.
 

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How do you truly believe white supremacy exist and run the world if you wouldn't want punishment for the people who uphold and practice such a evil thing to your race and so many other races and groups?

Y'all nikkas will not answer what punishment should be done for people yall claim uphold a evil system called white supremacy. I wonder why. Y'all going on 50 pages claiming this system is real and dominate the world. Why wouldn't you want punishment for the people who practice, uphold, and benefit from this system? Why wouldn't you want to end this system called white supremacy? It can't be as bad as y'all claim if you wouldn't even suggest how you would end this system and punish the people upholding and benefiting from this system. And how you would reward the people who has been and is most oppressed from this system.
 

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I don't care if I get called a c00n. But sadly Black people(at least in our current positions) are not destroying White Supremacy. We don't have the military power or extreme capital to do so by ourselves. However... We CAN ESCAPE white supremacy similar to a prison escape and cause havoc to the system.
 

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I don't care if I get called a c00n. But sadly Black people(at least in our current positions) are not destroying White Supremacy. We don't have the military power or extreme capital to do so by ourselves. However... We CAN ESCAPE white supremacy similar to a prison escape and cause havoc to the system.

So if you had the power. What punishment would want for the all white supremacists?

And what would you do for black people empowerment if it was all up to you and in your hands?

Like put all white supremacists in prison for life. Therefore white supremacy and every trace of it would be gone and demolished. Then give black people all the wealth, power, education, and everything else we've been wrongfully deprived of. Then make black people the most prosperous group since we've been through the most.

What would you do?
 

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How do you truly believe white supremacy exist and run the world if you wouldn't want punishment for the people who uphold and practice such a evil thing to your race and so many other races and groups?

Y'all nikkas will not answer what punishment should be done for people yall claim uphold a evil system called white supremacy. I wonder why. Y'all going on 50 pages claiming this system is real and dominate the world. Why wouldn't you want punishment for the people who practice, uphold, and benefit from this system? Why wouldn't you want to end this system called white supremacy? It can't be as bad as y'all claim if you wouldn't even suggest how you would end this system and punish the people upholding and benefiting from this system. And how you would reward the people who has been and is most oppressed from this system.
put the cart before the horse brehs
 

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So if you had the power. What punishment would want for the all white supremacists?

And what would you do for black people empowerment if it was all up to you and in your hands?

Like put all white supremacists in prison for life. Therefore white supremacy and every trace of it would be gone and demolished. Then give black people all the wealth, power, education, and everything else we've been wrongfully deprived of. Then make black people the most prosperous group since we've been through the most.

What would you do?

What would I do? Bleed them out. In terms of resources especially from Africa. Isolate them economically in what @ZoeGod said. Basically how they were before they reached the Americas. They Ottomans blocked their asses from reaching India but it would be much worse.

And all the wealth they stole(especially 1%) would be distributed to Blacks in a more extreme version of reparation.

What would I do with Black empowerment? Elaborate? Economically? Politically? Or in terms of war/military?

For economics/politics I would just follow these steps.
Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"
 

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You ask them how does White Supremacy control China or India and they cannot answer the question coherently enough to give a proper answer. They utilize nonsense arguments such as U.S. military is in South Korea or other nonsense that makes no real sense.

Their arguments aren't couched in any real understanding of geopolitics or military strategy, just a bunch of opinionated inane rhetoric.

If they cannot explain how Western nations (any Western nation) controls China's economy or politics, then just disregard them. And so far none of these guys can explain that.

What do you mean the U.S. military is a silly answer? What other countries military is seeing America's? Meaning they want to get some of that drone, submarine, longe range missile, destroyer, f16/phantom, nukie, live from america?

And that's without including the other countries that are white and support WS.

What other country has military installations on every part of the globe? If you don't see that as a sign of dominance...I can't tell you anything.

At any rate, I believe WS has reached or is close to the point where money and resources matters not to them. They've gained access to tech that supersedes them having to "show China who's boss". As they must have something soooo powerful they know even a nuclear enabled china can't touch them.

If this were 30 - 70 years ago, America would have been declared war on China and knocked them nack to the Stone Age. This tells me, hell even observing Trumps faux posture tells me, they're not worried!

Something maybe outside of your knowledge, I believe the white elites are getting ready to "breakaway".
 

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What would I do? Bleed them out. In terms of resources especially from Africa. Isolate them economically in what @ZoeGod said. Basically how they were before they reached the Americas. They Ottomans blocked their asses from reaching India but it would be much worse.

And all the wealth they stole(especially 1%) would be distributed to Blacks in a more extreme version of reparation.

What would I do with Black empowerment? Elaborate? Economically? Politically? Or in terms of war/military?

For economics/politics I would just follow these steps.
Black Diasporic Essentials For "Liberation"

First let me ask you this. So you wouldn't put all white supremacists and the people who uphold and practice white supremacy in prison for their entire lives?

First answer that. Yes or no.

Then. When I say give all black people all the wealth, power, education, etc... I'm talking about right here in the US and every where else. Make people in Africa wealthy, powerful, educational too.
 

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First let me ask you this. So you wouldn't put all white supremacists and the people who uphold and practice white supremacy in prison for their entire lives?

First answer that. Yes or no.
If they are guilty in harming Blacks and others(i.e Police, FBI, Government, Lawmakers/Politicians, Business people, White Extremist group, etc,etc) then duh...

Then. When I say give all black people all the wealth, power, education, etc... I'm talking about right here in the US and every where else. Make people in Africa wealthy, powerful, educational too.

Are you asking me HOW I would make Blacks in both America and Africa wealthy? You're not elaborating for the most part and when I do answer you go to another question.
 

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@YSPromoshunz Here is a post I made months ago on if I was ruler of the DRC....
Don't know why people are clowning @Bimothy Slangwell (Slang) because this is actually an interesting thread that allows good thinking.:ehh: Anyways, lets say I am the leader of the Democratic Republic of Congo. Which is a wopping 2.345 million km in size!!!! That's bigger than Mexico, Saudi Arabia, the Horn of Africa, Western Europe(CIA definition), Libya and Mongolia...


Yet its a country with so much fukked up shyt from political instability to extreme violence. If I was leader I would be a mix of Sir Seretse Khama, John Magufuli, Thomas Sankara, Xi Jimping, and a LITTLE bit of Mao Zedong and Mugabe in one. My ideas are similar to @ZoeGod but I'm going to expand more.


As president my first order of business would be investment in infrastructure in the Western Congo. Infrastructure in the Congo is a complete MUST. But I'm going to start with the Western part especially Kinshasa since it is less dangerous and more stable than the mineral rich Eastern Congo. This is just the small first step. I would be like John Magufuli in encouraging the ambitious of industrializing.


With the assistance of the Chinese, Japanese, Indian, Korean and Middle Eastern investment I would invest in infrusture development in the Western Congo from roads, ports, schools, hospitals, government buildings, the list goes on. Kinshasa for example would get bigger in size and more people would have jobs. These infrastructure deals would be like most the Chinese-African infrastructure deals i.e minerals for infrastructure. HOWEVER, I will make it law to the Chinese and other foreign companies that they MUST hire Congolese workers and train them.


As the Western Congo is slowly being developed. My next goal and probably my most important one would be training the national army from the ground up. Like @ZoeGod said I would get them trained by not just the Chinese but also the Russians if need be. I then would purchase new state of the art military equipment from China and Russia. I would get them on board to do this by telling them they would get access to the mines in the Eastern Congo before the Western Powers do.


After that I would create a widespread propaganda around the country by stating, "we are INVADING the Eastern Congo"/"We are taking our country back!" Some next reunification idea like West and East Germany. This would get the people pumped and they will behind it. I would invade the Eastern Congo will my newly trained army swiftly take out all the rebel groups and secure the mines. I would push back all those Hutu forces back into Rwanda. I know Rwanda and Uganda ain't going to like this but I would deal with those two later.


The rebel groups have been eliminated and the surviving ones will be charged with crime against humanity. The Eastern Congo is finally stable without violence. The mines are secured. Like promised China, Russia and whichever non-Western country that helped trained the army get first access. With the Eastern Congo now stable, going to the mines is a bit easier. BUT... when it comes to infrastructure the Eastern Congo is worse off.


My next order of business is creating a propaganda that will make people MORE pumped than the one when we invaded Eastern Congo. And that is unifying the country via road, rail and even AIR infrastructure! I would make multiple trips to Beijing to get more infrastructure deals. After getting the Chinese on board Goma for example(an Eastern Congo city) will have its first MODERN airport. Road infrastructure would finally connect the Eastern and Western congo along with bullet trains. Back and forth between the two regions would be easier than before. And thus the economy would take a big leap. I would then invest in mining infrastructure(which is a MUST) to make mining much easier and FASTER.


Moving on to mining. I would be like Seretse Khama of Botswana who used just diamonds to make his country from the poorest to the most developed nation of Africa. But unlike Botswana the DRC has MORE minerals besides diamonds such as cobalt, uranium, coltan(VERY important), and other shyt loads of resources worth more than the USA very own GDP. Also unlike Botswana the DRC is rich in human capital. The fourth largest in population in Africa. Early on I encouraged foreign companies to train Congolese in infrastructure building, but I would do a Mugabe and invest HEAVILY in education. making education free, getting the best teachers and expanding more in developing up to date schools. This would further make the economy take a leap. Like Mao Zedong I would unify the people and ruthlessly end tribalism. Next I would fight back against corruption all the while making my own party the dominate one like @ZoeGod stated.


A few years later the Congo is kicking ass. Its the fastest growing economy in the world. Making news around the world. But we forget about Uganda and Rwanda. Two pissed off neighborhoods who can no longer steal Congo's resources and manipulate the situation in Congo due to rapid development and stability. Lets say Uganda and Rwanda "try something" to stir up shyt in the Eastern Congo. I place my military who are now trained and armed with more advanced weapons on the borders of Uganda and Rwanda. This scares the shyt outta these two. And they back off(for now). Feeling that my nation has to be more secured. I invest more in the Congolese military. But instead of buying foreign weapons(who ill not sell you their best of the best obviously), I instead develop my OWN by using what we learned from the Chinese and Russians. And I do this by COLTAN... Coltan which Congo is RICH IN! Just to give you an example... Coltan is not just used for laptops, computers and other electronics but also military jets and other military engines.


I would expand the Congolese military complicity with state of the art fighter jets. This would be possibly because now that DRC has a educated class with many STEM graduates, I would send them to countries like China or Russia to learn how to build fighter aircrafts. Anyways, after this Congo would become the dominate power in Central, Eastern and a BIT in Southern Africa. Rwanda and Uganda will be scared shytless while shytting their pants. They will no longer try anything. This ain't the Congo they knew before. South Africa and the SADC would be glad of our development and let us take a more dominate role. Angola would be confused as what to thank but would be glad that there would be no more instability on their borders. Tanzania will welcome us into the EAC even if Rwanda and Uganda are against it. The DRC now makes the rules in their region whether the other countries like it or not. And in the EAC we can now FULLY keep Uganda and Rwanda in check.


After the Congo has become developed(at least on the level of Botswana). I would do a Magufuli and put heavy taxes on companies that break the mining rules. My next order of business is to finally industrialize. Being an exporter. Chinese has said they need more markets. Congo and China reach an agreement to create factories in Congo where its no longer "made in China" but "made in Congo." I do a final push for industrialization by industrializing EVERY sector including agriculture which feeds the entire nation. The DRC no longer needs to import cars because we can make our own cars at a fast and rapid pace.


Though the Congo has an electricity problem still. This goal is probably one of the HARDEST and that is the grand Inga dam. The Grand inga dam of the Congo River(one of the most POWERFUL rivers in Africa). With the Congo now developed and with a bigger economy we try for the construction of the grand inga dam again with the help of South Africa, other African countries, the Chinese and I even get other countries aboard. The Grand Inga dams are completed MUCH easier than before. The Congo is now powered but also HALF of Africa. This was not just a move to power the DRC but a political one to G check the rest of Africa. The Congo's influence and political power around Africa has now grown 10 folds!
I then do minor stuff like protecting gorillas(and other wildlife animals) as "they are apart of Congo and an important asset to us." With Congo stable with MANY beautiful scenerys and animals I then promote tourism which also helps boost the economy.


The DRC is now a powerhouse of Africa. A true "heart of Africa." Years later DRC is still kicking ass. But the West from the British, France, EU and the USA ain't like this. They can no longer get NEEDED resources from the country like before. They give us hints that they are coming for us economically or WORSE militarily if shyt hits the fan. I join BRIC with China, South Africa, India, Brazil and Russia. I form CLOSER ties with those nations but especially China and Russia. But the Western powers still wont let up...


My next step is the HARDEST and almost suicidal part. That is obtaining nuclear armed weapons. Since my economy is in MUCH better shape than North Korea's and we are rich in uranium with an educated population, the process should not be as difficult compared to NK's. We test our first underground hydrogen bomb. This makes many nations(including African ones) turn against us. We are met with many sanctions. But we bypass them without using the American dollar(see what Iran is doing and what Libya did). China and Russia still have our backs(unlike North Korea we are NOT under lunatic leader). We say to the world that we need nuclear weapons for our OWN protection and that we would not harm anyone. We then use propaganda to racialize it by saying "why cant Africa have nuclear weapons." This gets the Black diaspora on board and in support of us. As we may be the FIRST nuclear armed Black nation.


We complete our first long range intercontinental missile tests. Its a success! More so than NK. Why? Because unlike NK we have economy for quicker success. We get more sanctions. But it doesn't scare us. We do another hydrogen bomb test. More sanctions but then the West may be gearing to take military actions. We then enter in a miltary alliance with China and Russia. We ALLOW China to have SOME of their military bases in our country(since China sees us as a valuable asset). This keeps the West at bay but ANGERS them.

We do more missile and hydrogen bomb tests then finally we start creating our own. The Democratic Republic of Congo is now the FIRST nuclear armed Black nation. This sends a shockwave across the entire international community. It sends a shockwave to Blacks in America. The DRC is now the great power of Africa. We are now fully industrialized. Fully developed. And take a lead in assisting other African nations around the continent.

And finally I make a deal with the Diaspora similar to Ghana but unlike Ghana I KEEP that promise but add more such as business opportunities that the Diaspora(such as Black Americans) will get over foreigners. The DRC is not a "Black havan" or "Black paradise." We still have more work especially with the sanctions taking a toll on our economy but we are almost there. It would be like India but with SLIGHTLY less poorer population.

Thoughts?

Edit: Forgot about healthcare. But I did say hospitals would be part of the infrastructure development.


Hope this answers your questions in a nutshell...
 

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If they are guilty in harming Blacks and others(i.e Police, FBI, Government, Lawmakers/Politicians, Business people, White Extremist group, etc,etc) then duh...



Are you asking me HOW I would make Blacks in both America and Africa wealthy? You're not elaborating for the most part and when I do answer you go to another question.

Yea they gulty so you would put all white supremacists and people who uphold,practice, and benefit from white supremacy in prison for life.

Ok

Then you would make all black people wealthy and give black people all power(political, military, government, educational, ownership of all businesses) to where black people are the ones doing the hiring and doing all the locking up and controlling the media,etc... Basically black people would be care free and happily ever after with no worries. No crime because all black people would live in the suburbs and have all the wealth and would have all the power and control everything.
 

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so here is your opportunity - how does allowing african immigrants to thrive, further the white supremacist agenda? :jbhmm:

A few thrive cause for one, the system of WS is on auto-pilot for a while. They done such a good job in their heyday they don't need the shock and awe as much now. They're not storming nikkas crib dragging them out. So Africans are over here when shyts sweet.

The Africans thriving are fully supporting white supremacy. Getting educated in their institutions, making a lot of money/paying a lot of taxes, seeking to move in good neighborhoods away from nikkas :mjpls:, etc., is all supporting white supremacy.

Unless those Africans are over here talking about building an African empire, creating a African currency to replace the american dollar, and other things to step outside the square of WS...no matter how educated and rich they get, they're supporting and validating WS.

Lastly they are being placed in a class above us. We native blacks are the b*stard children who are the chosen base of the pyramid in this country. The beef is with us. As we are the ones who if we get on track can hit them in the pocket for money and land.

There you are...
 

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White Supremacy is literally everywhere. In almost every country in the world there is discrimination towards people of color, and usually "the closer to white the better.

BOOOOOOOOMMMMMM!

There it is also!

In every country, the closer to white you are, the better chance of success and access to class you have.
 
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