Tamir Rice case (12yo boy shot while carrying BB gun) - FULL VID RELEASED on 01/08/15

[tmonster]

the point is it was cold



they can go out anytime they want, i just think its crazy for him to be in a park by himself playing with guns and pointing it at people



it depends, 12 year olds cant play with a bb gun by themselves in a park, thats abnormal, strange and nuts, no parent in their right mind would let that happen

unless you have absent parents and a broken household then its ok, apparently



that there were no parents around and a park is public and its not ok to point guns randomly or at people, its sad that i have to explain this, there is something wrong with you if you dont understand that

yowza...

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Yup totally fukking nuts for a kid to play with a BB gun.

 

[theworldismine13]

That's why they make coats. There's nothing "nuts" about playing outside when its cold.

nobody said that its nuts to play in the cold, its nuts for a 12 year old to play by himself, in the cold, with no parents or kids around, with a gun

Again give me the time stamp of him pointing the "gun" at people. And please stop neglecting to mention that it is not a real gun. That's very disingenuous of you.

im not being disingenuous, nobody could tell if the gun was real or not, so you would have to assume is real, thats exactly why its crazy to play around like that

Ralphies parents and the rest of America must be abnormal, strange and nuts then.

yeah if they let kids play by themselves with guns, then yeah

Tamir had neither, but good job throwing the racist stereotype out there just for kicks.

tamir had both, that is the only explanation for why a 12 year old was out there by himself

Give me the time stamp of him randomly pointing the gun at people

i just told you, the video just shows him pointing the gun, its not clear who or what he was pointing at, it was the 911 caller that said he was pointing it at people

so there is no time stamp for him pointing at people per se, there is a time stamp of him pointing the gun

just watch the video yourself from beginning to end http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/loca.../tamir-rice-shooting-video-released/19530745/

why do you need a timestamp? you mean to tell me this whole time you havent watched the actual video?

 

[theworldismine13]

Yup totally fukking nuts for a kid to play with a BB gun.

if you are 12 its definitely nuts to play with a bb gun, by yourself, in a public park and its definitely nuts to point a bb gun at people you dont know

 

[theworldismine13]

please stop embarrassing yourself, i dont normally do this, but ill give a hint on how to argue your case

the only real issue here is what was going on through police's minds when they shot him

if you are trying to suggest that the situation before the shooting wasnt nuts you are just embarrassing yourself, it just shows you have no common sense and are just plain dumb, so it would behoove you to focus on the real issue

 

[MeachTheMonster]

nobody said that its nuts to play in the cold, its nuts for a 12 year old to play by himself, in the cold, with no parents or kids around, with a gun

So if it was warm outside it would be less weird? And how could no people be around but he's supposedly aiming at people?

im not being disingenuous, nobody could tell if the gun was real or not, so you would have to assume is real, thats exactly why its crazy to play around like that

You KNOW it wasn't real so there's no need to pretend you don't.

yeah if they let kids play by themselves with guns, then yeah

tamir had both, that is the only explanation for why a 12 year old was out there by himself

That's a hell of an assumption to make.

i just told you, the video just shows him pointing the gun, its not clear who or what he was pointing at, it was the 911 caller that said he was pointing it at people

You said the video is nuts. Has nothing to do with a caller. You keep claiming the video is nuts based on the fact that he was aiming at random people. So show me these random people he was aiming at.

so there is no time stamp for him pointing at people per se, there is a time stamp of him pointing the gun

It's nut just "so" that's a very important part of the case. The 911 caller claimed John Crawford was aiming at people and they were sacred. The video shows that's not true, same goes for this case. You can't just gloss over that fact with a "so"

I could watch Ralphie and call 911 to claim he was aiming at people. Would that make it true?

just watch the video yourself from beginning to end http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/loca.../tamir-rice-shooting-video-released/19530745/

why do you need a timestamp? you mean to tell me this whole time you havent watched the actual video?

I need a time stamp for what you are claiming is in the video. You keep claiming he was aiming at people who were scared. Where does he do that at?

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

"Hip Hop is not responsible for violence in America, America is responsible for violence in America."

 

[tmonster]

im not being disingenuous, nobody could tell if the gun was real or not, so you would have to assume is real, thats exactly why its crazy to play around like that

do you think tamir could tell if it was real?

 

[tmonster]

tamir had both, that is the only explanation for why a 12 year old was out there by himself

and there you have it folks, Tamir is dead because of bad black parenting
popo had nothing to do with this

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

argue in favor of the murder of a child, brehs

 

[ADevilYouKhow]

I honestly don't find the humor in trolling the wrongful and criminal death of a child.

 

[theworldismine13]

So if it was warm outside it would be less weird?

yeah if it was warm outside it would be less weird

the colder it is the less likely people are going to go to the park and play

And how could no people be around but he's supposedly aiming at people?

it just seems you lack common sense, "no one around" is not literal, it just means there are very few people around

did you not watch the video? there was person that walked by and there was a person sitting in the bench

and it was the 911 caller that said he was aiming it at people

You KNOW it wasn't real so there's no need to pretend you don't.

whether the gun was real or nut still makes the situation nutty

That's a hell of an assumption to make.

ok, do you have another explanation for why a 12 year old was by himself playing with a bb gun

You said the video is nuts. Has nothing to do with a caller. You keep claiming the video is nuts based on the fact that he was aiming at random people. So show me these random people he was aiming at.

i claim the video is nut because its a 12 year old playing with a bb gun by himself and pointing the gun at people and brandishing the gun

im not following why i have to show you the people, are you saying the 911 caller was lying?

It's nut just "so" that's a very important part of the case. The 911 caller claimed John Crawford was aiming at people and they were sacred. The video shows that's not true, same goes for this case. You can't just gloss over that fact with a "so"

I could watch Ralphie and call 911 to claim he was aiming at people. Would that make it true?

but the video clearly shows him pointing and brandishing the gun, so even if he wasnt pointing it at people it would still be nuts

I need a time stamp for what you are claiming is in the video. You keep claiming he was aiming at people who were scared. Where does he do that at?

im claiming that the 911 caller said that he was aiming it people, and the video shows him brandishing and pointing the gun

the video is right here http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/loca.../tamir-rice-shooting-video-released/19530745/

instead of asking a timestamp why dont you watch the video from beginning to end?[/QUOTE]

 

[theworldismine13]

and there you have it folks, Tamir is dead because of bad black parenting
popo had nothing to do with this

there are multiple people responsible for tamir's death including the police because there is no reasonable explanation for a 12 year old to be playing and brandishing a bb gun by himself

you can argue about what exactly was going through the cops mind but for Christ sake dont argue that the situation was normal, that was a crazy ass situation

 

[theworldismine13]

do you think tamir could tell if it was real?

yeah he could tell if it was real or not and i assume he can also tell that people didnt know if it was real

i think in his mind it was a game, he had no clue about the magnitude of what he was doing, only an adult could have explained to him the magnitude of what he was doing, but there were no adults around to guide him

and thats why its crazy that he was out there like that and that is why the adults in his life also bear responsibility

 

[theworldismine13]

"Hip Hop is not responsible for violence in America, America is responsible for violence in America."

well hip hop and rap music are different things, i dont think hip hop in general was responsible, but i think there is a strain of rap music in particular that does encourage behavior that if it isnt checked by an adult can lead to something like a 12 year old thinking its cool to go out by himself and play with a bb gun

this is the thing about the "rap music does not cuase violence argument", it only takes into account normal people from normal families, it doesnt take into account people that come from fuked up families and it doesnt take kids that have no adult guidance, like tamir, into account