Takeoff (The Migos) Killed In Houston

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It has nothing to do with rap music as a genre.

Where we run into a problem is w/ these brothers buying into the lifestyle that they rap about. They feel they need to live that life 24/7 because that is what gets promoted, that is what sells. That's not the fault of rap, that's the fault of a culture that perpetuates it.

These record labels get these young men twisted into horrible contracts, throw money up front at them, but they have no structure in place to help them live life. They rap about something they aren't living, so they start trying to live it. They don't hire real security, they have gang members and homies on the payroll instead.

You don't see Joe Pesci going from filming Goodfellas to carrying out hits on people, right?

Personal accountability does have to come into play here, but a lot of what Kanye has said about the record labels and ppl who run them is the God's honest truth. The people paying rappers only want to bleed money out of them until they're gone, and then they find someone else. These young brothers are getting thrown into situations with no structure, no direction, and no one to point them as to where to go.


The Jews are following supply and demand that’s not their responsibility.
 

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shyt sad AF. Here in the UK, obviously some people have guns, but it's pretty rare. In the US too many people have a gun. I know this is an obvious statement but this incident illustrates the problem

I know US at the point of no return given the amount of guns in circulation, but in UK this ends up in a fist fight, or perhaps a knife gets pulled out in an extreme case or in the most rare case a gun. If someone got a gun on them, it's too easy for something that should escalate into at most some punches getting thrown, to a weapon getting drawn that can with one pull of a trigger blow someone's brain's out. shyt is just alien to me.

We can talk hip hop, poverty, mentality. But when guns are so accessible it's too easy for a trip to the ER for a broken nose instead be a homicide. I know this argument is somewhat irrelevant given the culture of guns in the US, but as an external observer, it's depressing how easily someone getting hot headed ends in death. Of course that can happen anywhere, but the risk level is naturally so much lower when no one packing a fukking gun


Most reasonable post in here...
 

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RIP Takeoff. That brother should not have been killed. He always seemed like a good dude and didn’t seem to get caught up in bullshyt

My thing is this, people keep saying he was killed by his “own people” and they referring to the guys he was with. But even if he was killed by someone from the other crew, that’s his “own people” too. We are killing our own people over bullshyt. Money, crew, ego, representing. It’s all bullshyt.

We are killing our own people. I know we make fun of the saying but we really are supposed to be brothers. This shyt shouldn’t be happening.

Hiphop isn’t the blame, but it definitely isn’t doing a lot to help. It promotes the very same “fukk everybody, I gotta get mines” attitude that is central to a lot of these killings. It also largely promotes murder against black people. When so much of our music is about killing another black man, it’s hard for that to not have a knock on effect in our community

The bigger blame though is guns. Having easy access to guns is a problem. All these dudes dying from gun violence. Guns is the main contributing factor. Take out the guns and all you got is a fight. Add guns and you got a murder.

Another big factor is disunity. We need to bring our people together and stop seeing each other as enemies. With or without hiphop we need to teach respect for one another in our community. We are our own people.

And until we get our shyt together, everyone having easy access to guns and drugs is only making shot worse.
 

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I don't have to show you 5-6 notable white artists to make the point that none of this has anything to do with rap. Why? Because the homicide rate in their community isn't as high. They don't statistically have the same challenges as we do, which is why it's crazy to bring up the Black community having a problem and then asking why the same isn't happening to 5-6 notable white artists.

It has nothing to do with reveling an element especially in this case.
it absolutely does.... :dahell:

we know our homicide and rate for violence is higher which is why rappers shouldn't be reveling in and going back to these areas and putting themselves amongst that element. gambling with some hood dudes you don't know and fighting with them over money you chose to gamble is a prime example of putting yourself in a shyt position, unfortunately Takeoff was the one to get hit, but even if this weren't a shooting, it already turned violent with a fight (per circulating stories)...as i said, show me the white artists who put themselves in this position? they don't because that's not their mentality nor what their fans expect from them


and to the bolded, they do have the same challenges, minus institutional racism, but yet they not killing each other the same way
 
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The Jews are following supply and demand that’s not their responsibility.


Who creates the demand though?

Go on Apple Music, under Hip Hop - look at what songs Apple is recommending you listen to at the top of the list.

300 Blackout - Kodak Black
Bag Talk - Polo G

Listen to these songs or read the lyrics.

I'm not talking down on these brothers and they art, but they are creating this music in part because it's what the record labels want to sell to our people.
 

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Looking at the video. It makes me wonder if Quavo and Takeoff even had any security. They were pretty much alone. He was with Jr and his crew. It's getting harder for me to believe that one of the Migos people shot Takeoff. But, hopefully the facts come out. I hate speculating.
 

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Takeoff
PnB Rock
Pop Smoke
XXXtentacion
Young Dolph
King Von
Nipsey

All huge :stopitslime:

Even rappers like Trouble and JayDaYoungan were big in their markets.

These nikkas dying every couple months. It’s a crisis in rap.
Only ones as huge when they died were xxx
The rest not so much
I’m not saying they weren’t relevant
But this is a huge one

Anyways

My condolences to the family
This situation sucks
 

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Maybe their net worth isn’t reflective of what they actually have

Buying jewelry and cars and designer goods and big houses all adds up. You gotta pay labels back for videos and album budgets, etc

People swear these rappers are rich but they just keep up an image that the public buys into. Not saying it’s everybody, but they can’t all be millionaires
Here y’all come with the “rappers are really broke” nonsense
When ppl say this; what do ya'll mean?
A music genre that perpetuates the reality of living in America--usually as a black man.

We don't even have all the details yet, but, another "the culture" comes into question.

It was a private Halloween party and ppl have issues with dice--which is some party shyt.

I've seen ppl (family) mad over Monopoly. I done got hot over Uno with my cousins.

This convo is polarizing because it's so extreme.
STFU
Who creates the demand though?

Go on Apple Music, under Hip Hop - look at what songs Apple is recommending you listen to at the top of the list.

300 Blackout - Kodak Black
Bag Talk - Polo G

Listen to these songs or read the lyrics.

I'm not talking down on these brothers and they art, but they are creating this music in part because it's what the record labels want to sell to our people.
consumer create demand

What’s the point of conspiracy theories?
 

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Who creates the demand though?

Go on Apple Music, under Hip Hop - look at what songs Apple is recommending you listen to at the top of the list.

300 Blackout - Kodak Black
Bag Talk - Polo G

Listen to these songs or read the lyrics.

I'm not talking down on these brothers and they art, but they are creating this music in part because it's what the record labels want to sell to our people.
Consumers. The culture.

Polo G and Kodak Black are two of my favorite artists from this generation.

I said it in a post awhile back in NYC there were two teenage rappers a decade apart. There was one who was an industry plant with a performing arts school background who branded himself as a conscious MC and the other was a drill rapper who got signed off the strength of the streets getting behind him. These rappers are Joey BADA$$ and Kay Flock and guess who did way more numbers in way less time off their first single.



I’ve already spoken on how Chief Keef came into the game as the complete opposite of what blog era label A&R’s were looking for (the clean cut, 20 something year old, every man rapper) and he did it off the strength of a viral hit and the culture.

We choose.
 
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