Switzerland's proposal for guaranteed, basic income for all citizens unites Libertarians, Socialists

DEAD7

Veteran
Supporter
Joined
Oct 5, 2012
Messages
50,971
Reputation
4,416
Daps
89,062
Reppin
Fresno, CA.
Worker abuse isn't exactly rampant over there. When you have a guaranteed income, big business has to make menial work attractive for you, rather than letting a bunch of who they see as replaceable grunts fighting for scraps. It's a "worker's job market" as opposed to an employer's (at least at the low-wage level.)
Worker abuse isn't rampant over there now without the law, and with no min wage. :mjpls:

Its funny that the catastrophic no min-wage theories do not play out in reality, but are still maintained by liberals with absolute certainty...
 

Depreciating Asset

Please pawg responsibly
Joined
Jul 11, 2013
Messages
3,303
Reputation
601
Daps
9,212
Reppin
Other
I can just imagine a boss saying, "Ok. Enough horseing around guys, time to get back to work."

Reply, "Really?? What are you going to do fire me?"

735.gif
 
Last edited:

The Real

Anti-Ignorance
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
6,353
Reputation
725
Daps
10,726
Reppin
NYC
Worker abuse isn't rampant over there now without the law, and with no min wage. :mjpls:

Its funny that the catastrophic no min-wage theories do not play out in reality, but are still maintained by liberals with absolute certainty...

Well, again, the purpose of minimum wage is worker protection, particularly the most vulnerable ladder rung of workers. All these policies have the same ultimate goals- some kind of realistic safety net that guarantees a minimum quality of life for the average citizen. Maybe they aren't all needed simultaneously, but without minimum wage here, where the social safety net is :flabbynsick: compared to Switzerland, things would be worse. If we had a stronger safety net through other means, maybe we wouldn't need it either.
 

newworldafro

DeeperThanRapBiggerThanHH
Bushed
Joined
May 3, 2012
Messages
50,920
Reputation
5,122
Daps
114,959
Reppin
In the Silver Lining
Sounds nice. Would NEVER work. THE END.

elaborate please.... I'm intrigued, cause I thought about this on and off, and I think it would be interesting and could possibly work..........I mean a law that liberterians and progressives can agree on has to at least catch your attention.....

Immigrants flooding in could definitely be a problem and the idea of do you get more money if you have kids is an issue too?? :manny:, but an experiment would be worth a try ....... its not like anything else is working, nor are any regulations taking place to control any of the financial craziness occurring right now ... so :yeshrug:
 
  • Dap
Reactions: Oso

OsO

Souldier
Joined
May 6, 2012
Messages
5,046
Reputation
1,142
Daps
12,103
Reppin
Harlem
That plan is going to backfire when a ton of immigrants start flying in from everywhere.

it shouldn't be a set amount, it should vary based on your contribution to society.

but there should also be a bare minimum for people who dont contribute anything.

I can just imagine a boss saying, "Ok. Enough horseing around guys, time to get back to work."

Reply, "Really?? What are you going to do fire me?"

735.gif

thats why you make it incentive based. those who want to work for more shall have more. those who want to do the minimum will have the minimum.

we should definitely try something like this in the US... cause like afro said whats the worst that can happen? i actually think we're currently in the worst-case scenario--an oppressive plutocracy with a really strong army and no moral code lol.. so it can only improve from here.
 

Notorious THC

Below The Heavens
Joined
Nov 3, 2013
Messages
249
Reputation
20
Daps
257
Reppin
Lakers
technically what would the classification of the Swiss government now fall under; socialist or communist?

edit: FYI, I know communism is a dirty concept, in the US, but I know many Armenians and Russians who say, living in the Soviet Union was otherwise....


This tbh, I know many and none of them really complained.
 
Joined
May 1, 2012
Messages
32,692
Reputation
2,910
Daps
71,385
Reppin
Yeah
it shouldn't be a set amount, it should vary based on your contribution to society.

but there should also be a bare minimum for people who dont contribute anything.



thats why you make it incentive based. those who want to work for more shall have more. those who want to do the minimum will have the minimum.

we should definitely try something like this in the US... cause like afro said whats the worst that can happen? i actually think we're currently in the worst-case scenario--an oppressive plutocracy with a really strong army and no moral code lol.. so it can only improve from here.
Word
 

Crakface

...
Joined
May 4, 2012
Messages
18,500
Reputation
1,530
Daps
25,708
Reppin
L.A
How do you do that in a nation with close to 400 million people in a nation run by racist cacs and multiculturalism where everyone is fighting to be the top of the pyramid.
 
Top