Swift hook knock ya eyebrows off..Right Cross only takes one time: Garcia vs Thurman 147 unification

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Bleed The Freak

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he got collazo outta there though

Not disputing that but he looked like shyt.

Point I'm making is he was learning he had to rely on more than his raw power and he's grown. I just think his flaws will bite his ass on a superb counter puncher and someone who commits to the body.

Danny is NICE BUT always had limitations. His talent is comparable TO ME with Vargas in that despite not being the most physically talented (like a Manny, Floyd or Thurman/Crawford to a degree) he's of the Bradley, Porter mold ( and this doesn't take away from their talent) in reflexes or movement. It comes less natural but they make up with execution or ring IQ ( although Porter can be questionable about this as well as Bradley...especially the Ruslan fight).

He has made the most out of lacking pure physical "eye popping" natural " I can't believe this nikka did that" talent to me.
 

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Even when Danny won and I think he's talented he never blew me away. The Herrera and Peterson fights showed me his limitations. Even at his peak I never once (nor did aficionados that I knew) call him a P4P dude.

If you don't think Vargas would be trouble for Thurman's lunging ass you're nuts. He's got decent pop, is lanky and has decent fundamentals. He recovers from being dropped and Thurman ain't had a fukking KO since old man Quintana. Bundhu and fukking Collazo had him confused at times and he couldn't get them outta there.

Nikkas act like Thurman ( who I like) is fukking Manny at his peak.

Thurman clearly beats the hell out Vargas. That's not even a question to me.


LOL at Danny schooling Vargas....he ain't got the resume (cause he's with TR) but don't act like there's a huge gulf in their talent....

Danny Garcia is much better than Jessie Vargas. Vargas still has Allakhverdiev & Novikov issues.
 

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Well BATB schooled Vargas easily, so are you saying, BATB from 3yrs ago whoops all these dudes?

Because I support that :obama:


I was just talking about Bradley last night at a party watching this.....Bradley IMHO seems content not to be the scalp one of ( and TR is a big factor too) these younger cats. Beating a name like him for a Spence Jr or Thurman legitimizes them as the cream of the crop. He's at a stage now where he's better to lose to a Cotto or Lara type at 154 then lose to a young lion. For him there's little upside and a huge fallout if he gets schooled/beat down by a young dude.
 
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Thurman clearly beats the hell out Vargas. That's not even a question to me.




Danny Garcia is much better than Jessie Vargas. Vargas still has Allakhverdiev & Novikov issues.

Vargas peaked in that Ali fight and that was it.

Im not saying he's garbage, he's decent, but just nothing special. He throws a solid right hand and that's pretty much it. He lacks the extra special effects in his game to make him a top fighter. Dude is B- really. Maybe even C+

If Pac can drop him and beat him for 9 or 10 rounds without being troubled at all, Thurman should be able to stop him or really beat his ass.
 

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And I know Devon Alexander had nose surgery but if Danny wants a quick stay busy fight for summer and a quick easy win that wouldn't be bad for him to setup a big fall/winter bout.
 
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Vargas peaked in that Ali fight and that was it.

Im not saying he's garbage, he's decent, but just nothing special. He throws a solid right hand and that's pretty much it. He lacks the extra special effects in his game to make him a top fighter. Dude is B- really. Maybe even C+

If Pac can drop him and beat him for 9 or 10 rounds without being troubled at all, Thurman should be able to stop him or really beat his ass.

If Thurman couldn't stop Guerrero, Bundhu and only got a win on cuts vs. Collazo I think Vargas would be fine. It's like when nikkas keep saying Manny gonna KO someone...and he couldn't get Algeria, Vargas or Rios outta there...always talking about who nikkas KO'd 4-5 years ago or in Manny case 7.

Quintana is Thurman last legit KO in fukking 2012 and the nikka was WASHED. Nikkas live in the moment of now instead of looking at reality. And the reality is Thurman ain't no KO artist. Not above C-level. And I like Thurman. And that's a fact. Saying he will KO Vargas is not based in reality.

And I'm not even a Vargas fan like that. Thurman is #1 right now yes but he ain't head and fukking shoulders above everyone else. That lunging looping shyt at some point will get him clipped. He's athletic enough to get out of the way but someone with fundamentals will time him badly.
 
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Herrera >> Novikov

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Peterson >> Allakhverdiev:sas1:

Nobody disputes that but bringing up nikkas struggle game aint got shyt to do with anything in head to head matchups. Bradley damn near got his skull pushed in by Ruslan and Ruslan got schooled by fukking Molina.

PED got his shyt pushed by Lucas who got worked by Danny and then Danny damn near lost ( I had PED winning) to PED.
 

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A site that loves to say who have u fought in order to determine how good u are seem to be giving him a pass.

yup, but then turn around and shyt on Golovkin :mjlol:

Truth be told, Spence looks like he has the skills and attributes to be a problem for a lot of nikkas, but he gotta get past Brook before I start saying he can rule the division and shyt.
 
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ALL THE dikkRIDING WITH ERROL SPENCE

PEOPLE OUT HERE SAYING ERROL IS GONNA STOP KEITH :gucci:

KELL BROOK IS GONNA fukk HIM UP :mjgrin:

ALL THE BELTS ARE COMING TO SHEFFIELD :mjgrin:

FIRST WE'LL EXPOSE 'THE TRUTH' AS 'THE FRAUD' IN MAY :mjgrin: , THEN WE GET THE BELTS FROM THURMAN AT THE END OF THE YEAR AND THEN AFTER THAT WE GET PACQUIAO TO HAND OVER HIS BELTS - CONQUER 147 AND THEN WE DO THE SAME THING WITH 154

CHARLO? :
ANDRADE?
CANELO ?

ALL THE BELTS. ALL THE BELTS.

Freebandz gang :mjgrin:
 
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