Survived Early 90s Drug Game in NYC AMA

[timothy_strickland]

Not sure what that face means, I'm new to this forum.

Italian mafia had no presence or respect in the drug game by the time I was in it. If they wanted some shyt they had to pay us just like every out of town custie. I know back in the day before my time they had the dope game on smash on the East side but they were a non-factor by the late 80s.

Never pawged in my life. Not attracted to snow bunnies.

In terms of the hood in NYC, this is not LA, we didn't have powerful ethnic gangs in the streets and mixed areas always had mixed crews that hustled together. If you were a light Latin dude you might have trouble hustling in Bed Stuy which was all black and vice versa for a black american in an all Latin hood with FOB Dominicans like the Heights. But that wasn't based on ethnicity it was more about who are you, you're not known around here. New York was about blocks and $$ in that era.

.Means racism/no Nikkas/anti Black racism in general.

The Texan
rapper chamillionaire many years ago, tried to take A picture with Micheal Jordan and the nba legend Said that he doesnt take pics with no nikkas. Since then the incident became a running joke/meme on here.

Can you answer my questions again please, since i explained that meant =anti-nikkas/no nikkas/racist.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

How were the Jamaican crews really back then? I hear they were the deadliest. My close friend from the Bronx is the son of a Jamaican ex dealer who was deported for killing a Spanish dude on the streets of the south Bronx as revenge for a buck 50 the Spanish dude gave him on rikers.

Was the Jamaicans all over uptown like they were in Brooklyn or just up north in Bronx by the last stop on the 2 train where their community is?

 

[Piri Tomas]

Did you see the rise of the majority white middle class opiate userbase coming?
What was the demographic of the userbase in your time? Financial, ethnic, lifestyle?
What walk of life/civilian job has a surprising amount of junkies?

I saw it coming. We are an addicted nation. They were popping pills since I was a kid (whites in Middle America), the drug companies faced tighter restrictions now the Mexicans step in and fill the void with straight dope. Basic business.

It was two-tiered. Local custies were black and Latin, somewhat older crowd than the crackheads. Then there were the whites from Westchester/Connecticut...

Aside from the two main groups we also got a fair amount of out of town dealers looking to buy a little weight to bring back to wherever they came from.

I didn't care to know the profession of the custies. An alarming number of teachers from local schools hit the corners though. It was a not so well kept secret in that era.

 

[Piri Tomas]

Do you still live in nyc now or moved to another city?

Have lived in Brooklyn since '96.

 

[Ol’Otis]

Most number of bricks you lost?

First thing that came to mind was 92

 

[Piri Tomas]

Was there an OT (outta town) game in the early-mid 90s outside of DC? 2018 Brooklyn nikkas run pretty much the whole market in New England and small towns in PA..was nikkas taking those kinds trips back then or was the bread so good in NY there was no need for those markets?




Yes. You got like 60-65 on most blocks in NY. It’s like bud, everything is better now.

All up and down the eastern seaboard. It was bigger with crack crews. By '89, '90 when I was really starting to do adult shyt in the streets the price of crack had dropped, demand was a lot lower in NYC while other cities/towns were just discovering it so that led to a lot of migration for $$.

In the dope game the $ was always good in NYC (still probably is). After the guy who I was hustling crack for got killed (I was at Spofford when I heard the news) I got swept up with a crew selling dope... So no more trips out of town to DC or anywhere else.

 

[Piri Tomas]

.Means racism/no Nikkas/anti Black racism in general.

The Texan
rapper chamillionaire many years ago, tried to take A picture with Micheal Jordan and the nba legend Said that he doesnt take pics with no nikkas. Since then the incident became a running joke/meme on here.

Can you answer my questions again please, since i explained that meant =anti-nikkas/no nikkas/racist.

I don't know what racism was like in the early 90s anywhere but in NYC. Teachers were racist, cops were racist, and everyone else in my environment was black or Latin. I grew up with the typical Latin colorism (can't really call it outright racism) and getting clowned on for my halting, awkward English when I first came back up from PR... but racism was more institutional than personal growing up.

Like I said, people hustled where they were the dominant demographic. I didn't grow up around whites but I would think it wouldn't go well if you tried to go to Bensonhurst in 1990 as a black person much less a drug dealer.

 

[banner34]

Have lived in Brooklyn since '96.

What the difference between Brooklyn and south Bronx

 

[Piri Tomas]

How were the Jamaican crews really back then? I hear they were the deadliest. My close friend from the Bronx is the son of a Jamaican ex dealer who was deported for killing a Spanish dude on the streets of the south Bronx as revenge for a buck 50 the Spanish dude gave him on rikers.

Was the Jamaicans all over uptown like they were in Brooklyn or just up north in Bronx by the last stop on the 2 train where their community is?

No direct experience with Jamaican crews. Every group had killers, the mystique about Jamaicans is the same shyt people attach to D.C. dudes, etc. The drug economy back then rewarded a certain skill set/sociopathic/psychotic tendencies. You could find someone to pay you in that period because there was a lot of demand for killers so they existed in every group.

I feel like the white media is responsible for a lot of that shyt. They talked about Jamaicans like they were the "bad Negroes" causing the "good local Negroes" to get into violent new activities and become uncontrollable. Most of the fear of Jamaicans was coming from small towns that refused to admit that social inequality and racism that was historical in their regions was creating the violence instead of these phantom Jamaican assassins.

Jamaicans held their sections (Crown Heights/Flatbush) the same way other groups held theirs. I never heard about Jamaicans in the Bronx but I assume there were some active Jamaicans in their section.

 

[Donald J Trump]

I don't know a single cat that was in the game who'd dap it up and reminisce about the old times with someone who clapped at them.

i do

 

[Flywin Lannister]

What were some of the names of the major players? If not them, at least name drop some lieutenants

HELLO MISTER OFFICER, HOW ARE YOU TODAY?

DJEEZUS FUKKING CHRIST

FUKK OFF OF OUR BOARD

 

[Piri Tomas]

I don't know a single cat that was in the game who'd dap it up and reminisce about the old times with someone who clapped at them.

That was a beef that was squashed a long time ago, why would I still be mad 26 years later? We all had reasons for doing the shyt we did back then, he thought he had to kill me. I thought I had to do a lot of things back then to survive. We both survived, neither one of us is living that life... the war is over for us.

 

[-deleted-]

No direct experience with Jamaican crews. Every group had killers, the mystique about Jamaicans is the same shyt people attach to D.C. dudes, etc. The drug economy back then rewarded a certain skill set/sociopathic/psychotic tendencies. You could find someone to pay you in that period because there was a lot of demand for killers so they existed in every group.

I feel like the white media is responsible for a lot of that shyt. They talked about Jamaicans like they were the "bad Negroes" causing the "good local Negroes" to get into violent new activities and become uncontrollable. Most of the fear of Jamaicans was coming from small towns that refused to admit that social inequality and racism that was historical in their regions was creating the violence instead of these phantom Jamaican assassins.

Jamaicans held their sections (Crown Heights/Flatbush) the same way other groups held theirs. I never heard about Jamaicans in the Bronx but I assume there were some active Jamaicans in their section.

There were a good number of Jamaicans that had the coke game on lock in the late 80s-early 90s in Co-Op City. They also owned businesses as fronts out there too. And like you said, they had it on lock in Crown heights and Flatbush too.

 

[I Really Mean It]

i do

Where I'm from, that's beef for life. I'm not saying we're going to be going at each other for life, but there won't be any dapping or words exchanged if we see one another.

 

[UberEatsDriver]

There were a good number of Jamaicans that had the coke game on lock in the late 80s-early 90s in Co-Op City. They also owned businesses as fronts out there too. And like you said, they had it on lock in Crown heights and Flatbush too.

Wasn’t Co-Op still white in those days? How about Eastchester Ave or Gun Hill?

Matter of fact has Co-op ever had a reputation the way other hoods have?

I’m from Brooklyn and Co-op looks like a more giant Starret City!

 

[-deleted-]

Wasn’t Co-Op still white in those days? How about Eastchester Ave or Gun Hill?

Matter of fact has Co-op ever had a reputation the way other hoods have?

I’m from Brooklyn and Co-op looks like a more giant Starret City!

I didn’t live through those days myself but I know very personally Jamaicans that were operating heavy out of Co-Op those days.