SUPERMAN by James Gunn (Coming 2025)
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No more Snyder thanks lord go and watch Rebel Moon for that bs.
Fillerguy
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The people who ask for this don't actually like the character and think something is "wrong" with himw....making him edgier "fixes him". They did this to most comics in the 90s. We ended up with some of the batshyt stupid Superman runs of all time. Unironically, Batman benefitted from being edgier. It's almost like an all powerful character, who's powerset revolves around being in the sun, works better when he isn't a dark and moody bytch.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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That was a rumor. Snyder said it wasn't true. No execs ever said it was accurate to my knowledge.
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The Superman comics from John Byrne's run to the return of Superman from his "death" was a great run.
The Devil's Advocate
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Let's stop doing two things here
Stop bringing up Synder when people diss Gunn. Clearly, we're comparing the REEVES universe at this point... Which leads to..................
Stop saying people want darker SUPERMAN. We said we want a darker UNIVERSE and not CAMPY Marvel shyt that Gunn is known for...............
I don't see anybody saying "Yea we need Homelander style Superman in the DCU"
Death of Superman was one of the best superman runs of his comic book history. its was 90s and edgy like you claim.
Superman benefits not from being edgy, but from having legitimate struggles to overcome. traumas to deal with. Like the poster above said, a darker world. not a darker superman.
Him being all powerful, having a perfect life, and being ultra kind and happy on top of that makes him boring.
There is a reason most movies about Jesus are about the most dramatic and violent parts of his life, instead of people making movies about Jesus happily being a carpenter and healing people. No they always include the crucifiction parts and stuff too.
Moody Supes is over we’re in a new era now.
Fillerguy
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What followed after Supes death gave use edgelord Supermen like the Eradicator and Cyborg
Yall cool with Superman running around with the blicky? Because DC thought fans wanted this edgelord shyt an almost every DC character started doing this nonsense.
But the comic writers have somewhat of an excuse. Superman has existed for nearly 100 years and there's almost so many stories you can tell about him before you need to switch things up.
A dark Superman should never be a starting point. He's built on hopeful optimism. You can have character be a boy scout yet be compelling. MCU's Captain America is just that. Marvel accidently made the best Superman movie in 20 years when they released Winter Soldier. He's constantly made fun of for being a boy scout yet the character isn't boring or corny. Wonder Woman (first film) managed to do it too and she was killing ppl, so was Cap. Even the cw Superman is a softy most of the time and is well received.
Why is making a compelling boy scout Superman so difficult if we've seen it been done countless times before. My only guess is, DCU/WB writers, up until recently do not like Superman. DCU fans obviously don't like comic accurate Superman.
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You need to read those books. Can't base it off that panel. People generally rate the Byrne and Jurgens run highly.What followed after Supes death gave use edgelord Supermen like the Eradicator and CyborgHatermanSuperman. Superman came back with a mullet and dracos.
Yall cool with Superman running around with the blicky? Because DC thought fans wanted this edgelord shyt an almost every DC character started doing this nonsense.
But the comic writers have somewhat of an excuse. Superman has existed for nearly 100 years and there's almost so many stories you can tell about him before you need to switch things up.
A dark Superman should never be a starting point. He's built on hopeful optimism. You can have character be a boy scout yet be compelling. MCU's Captain America is just that. Marvel accidently made the best Superman movie in 20 years when they released Winter Soldier. He's constantly made fun of for being a boy scout yet the character isn't boring or corny. Wonder Woman (first film) managed to do it too and she was killing ppl, so was Cap. Even the cw Superman is a softy most of the time and is well received.
Why is making a compelling boy scout Superman so difficult if we've seen it been done countless times before. My only guess is, DCU/WB writers, up until recently do not like Superman. DCU fans obviously don't like comic accurate Superman.
You can pluck various panels throughout Superman comics and paint him as an spiteful a$$hole.
In the actual Superman runs, he isnt generally depicted as a boy scout on a consistent basis like he is in other media until recently with the Peter J. Tomasi & Patrick Gleason run
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Saysumthinfunnymike
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Do y'all reread your posts before hittin reply? This is a whole lot of "What I want...." and nothing in terms of facts to back it up
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nikka WHAT?
People (like 3-4 posts above) will say in plain fukking english, nobody wants dark superman, just darker world around him.... And you fools will reply TO THAT, with some shyt about "nobody wants darker superman"
It's like y'all can't read. I'm sure 1-2 people said yea, he needs to be darker. But in reality, I haven't seen it. Most are saying they don't want GotG but with Superman in it. We'd much rather have Reeves universe but with Superman in it. And most of the world agrees considering their thoughts on the current Batman/Penguin and not wanting to even envision what Gunn is going to do with it.
Speak on THAT. Stop bringing up corny arguments like we want the Punisher with an S on his chest
Saysumthinfunnymike
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That's crazy..... Reeves world is Gotham. It's supposed to be dark and gritty. It's supposed to be raw. That's what we like about it sure but that's not where Superman operates. Superman operates much more on a cosmic scale. Batman is involved in stories that could impact the globe, he's there.. he's a part of the Justice League but rarely is Superman down in Gotham puttin in work on some street level shyt.
That's why I was fine with Gunn directing Superman and this universe in general because it's cosmic based.
Reeves Batman is street level/city based enemies.
That's why I was fine with Gunn directing Superman and this universe in general because it's cosmic based.
Reeves Batman is street level/city based enemies.
