Super Tuesday Primary: Biden wins 9 of 14 states; leads delegate count 637 to 559

Who Comes Out With The Most Pledged Delegates After Super Tuesday?


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But the south is where the delegates are. This is how Obama stomped Hillary. It's how Hillary stomped Bernie. You need to win those voters. Bernie was always going to be at a disadvantage because Biden has a connection with black people (Obama's VP), but he could have done far more to reach out to them.

I always quote this, but it's worth doing so again. In 2008 when asked why he campaigned in rural white republican districts where he knew he'd lose, Obama said he did it because just showing your face and talking to people there would result in a 15 point loss instead of a 30 point loss. That cold blooded focus on margins is what you need to win. Hillary ignored those places in 2016 and racked up a lot of 30-40 point losses. Biden isn't going to make that mistake. Bernie is making it right now by not even trying to reach out these voters. It might be too late.
Mark Penn thought the primaries were winner take all:mjlol:. Losing the south doesn't help and Hillary lost to Obama while winning states like Texas, MA, NY, CA,OH and PA but the margins were not as big as the Obama victories. There was an article posted last night that Sanders team thought Harris, Booker et al will split the black vote and he would coast to victory that way. I think reaching out means working within the party something that is the opposite of his plank, he could have worked with some progressive lawmakers like Sherrod Brown and former lawmakers like Feingold as they will make a different argument than the outsider. Obama also did that very well, for all the nostalgia about him he managed to get insiders working with him as the campaign went on, he got a bunch of them to break with the Clintons
 

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Liberal voters in recent history have been the smartest dummies in politics. We constantly make fun of conservative voters for their belief in conspiracies and intelligence but they are at the very least smart enough to vote with the party.

If you hadn't been paying attention to politics at all until yesterday, I don't know if you cold recognize democrat from republican the way the people who belong to the same party are attacking each other.

Bernie still has a slim chance because he can pickup the vast majority of CA delegates but he has not done much to gain ground in the places he got beat in during 2016, a lot of those places are coming up next. Biden is pretty much the nominee after yesterday's performance. Definitely wasn't my preference but I'm going to vote with the party because thats my best shot of having my interest represented in the upcoming election and administration.

So many people think they're punishing anyone other than themselves by being a pedestrian to the process. You can't get mad at D's because your candidate wasn't selected, sit at home and pout on election day effectively helping the other side and then get mad again during mid-terms and the next election cycle when the party has to fight for a seat at the table when in reality if you had of just voted with the party, they'd be fighting for something useful instead.
 

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Fam, he mixed up his wife and sister last night.
:manny:

We've known for years Biden is prone to mush mouth. Honestly, I think his issue seems to be more of a speech thing, like his mouth not keeping up with his mind, not necessarily that he's truly feeble/senile.
 

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Can someone answer this question? We’ve quickly pivoted away from the claim that Bernie is a great general election candidate who will mobilize working class and non voters, to moral resignation that he can’t do establishment politics. If he can’t win over any of these essential voting blocs, what’s the point?

It’s ironic because we’ve heard ad-nauseum about how the establishment wing of the Dem party sucks at politics and can’t win, but now they’re unbeatable when they back their candidate?
General elections =/= primarys

They can coalesce liberal media echo chambers and suppress disadvantageous stories when they dont have to compete against the fox news propaganda machine. They can coordinate with advantageous intra party moves in the primary that they cant in the general (spoiler candidates, timed dropouts, cabinet position promises).

This is all obvious. With such a staunch defense of establishment dems, you'd think they had a winning record against incumbent Republican Presidents or something.
 

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Again, I think religion is an overlooked factor in Bernie’s relations with Black voters, especially older and southern ones. Bernie is a nonreligious Jew who never talks about God and doesn’t go to Black churches and clap offbeat then pretend to be the white substitute pastor like Biden cause it isn’t him. Not being part of the Black church’s political infrastructure has to be a big hindrance.
Good for him. If has the change who he is, then it's not worth it.
 

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Having a conversation about black problems you have no intention of actually fixing is pandering imo.

I dont see the difference between lying in people's faces and not showing up.
i'm not saying have a conversation about black problems, i'm saying explain why you're platform helps them. yall keep conflating points (or posters, i'm not on the run a black agenda or bust train). bernie takes painstaking measures to explain how his platform lifts up working class people, you can do the same with black people. here's why my overarching GND helps your community - it gets rid of issue xyz that disproportionately is found in your community, etc. not create a specific plan for issue x in black community
 
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