Sugar Ray Robinson in his prime or Floyd Mayweather Jr

[Carlos Huerta]

Didn't Archie Moore when the LHW title when he was 39 or something fukkING RETARD
stop talking go home
so when he fought Ali he had to mid 40's damn near 50

Floyd Patterson was not a champ when he fought Ali, and never became one again after he fought Ali

I can dissect any boxers opponents like this, they are only few great fighters every era

that shyt don't count for nothing

Like I said the only great fighters who fought where Joe and George
the rest are guys are the contemporaries every great champ faces in their era

Has Mayweather ever fought a great fighter?

 

[Master Teacher]

hey man.. wikipeida is your friend.. no doubt...

just dont ever say your dumbazz opinions in public with ppl that have WATCHED BOXING FOR MORE THAN 3 YEARS.... or are older than 25

youll be suprised at the reactions

You need to use that shyt not just NAME NAMES

The fact you brought up Archie Moore shows you just throwing out names

HE WAS 48 and he fought Cassius Clay not Ali, ah hell naw, this nikka the fought Rocky Maciano too
wtf? This nikka old as fukk man, he fought two legends from two eras, come on man, kill yourself this nikka was probably 55 when he fought the "greatest"

Floyd never fought anybody that Flabby and sick ever.

 

[JohnStarksMiddleFinger]

Robinson while great has double digit losses...and had trouble with Jake Lamotta. From the little footage I've seen of SRR I don't think he could outbox Floyd in his prime.

you don't know shyt about boxing

 

[Master Teacher]

Has Mayweather ever fought a great fighter?

He's fought the best in every division he ruled that I can say because the RECORDS speak for themselves. As far as great now, Floyd Mayweather is the only great fighter of his era. He fights nothing but chamions. He did what Pacman was doing for 4 years for 15.

DLH who dethroned Pernell and beat Ike Quartey, SHANE, COTTO, CASTILLO, CORALES, HATTON, MARQUEZ look at their records when Floyd fought them, look at their championship status. They going to the hall of fame. Not as impressive has Foreman and Fraiser, but who is, those dudes are elevated like few are. Floyd has no rival in his era.

Only person I'd say he hasn't beating is Pac, thats it, he the only one, but we all know there's a situation with that.
But Better research yourself look at Floyd's career from 1998 when he first got a belt, and look at the Records and ratings of the fighters he beat, you can see all this never fought nobody shyt is some bullshyt.

Great fighters come along seldom, Ali was lucky to have Foreman and Fraiser to elevate him.

Floyd is the most dominate champion in the history of the sport, is it his competition or is he just that great

 

[Newzz]

floyd...and it's not even close

 

[Newzz]

lol at this thread almost becoming "The Official Boxing Thread" posters vs The rest of the coli posters


Anyway, for you nikkas that dont know shyt about boxing....one of the most knowledgeable people that I read/follow on Boxing actually speak on this. Stephen "Breadman" Edwards from Boxingtalk.com actually responded to a reader asking about Sugar Ray Robinson vs. Floyd Mayweather and this is what he said:

Ray Robinson would hurt Floyd bad in my opinion. He is just too much. People who don’t know confuse Robinson’s prime. They look at his famous fights of the 50’s against Lamotta, Basilio, Graziano, Turpin, Olson and Fullmer. He was great in those fights but he was past it. His real prime was before 1950. Please youtube his fights against Luc Van Dam, Gerhard Hecht, Hans Stretz, Tony Riccio, Tony Ancona and Andy Nonells. The footage is not the best but you can use your imagination and then apply common sense to what you are witnessing. No man that has ever walked this earth can beat Ray Robinson 147lbs on down.


Robinson had an iron chin in the 6 oz era. He was stopped once in over 200 fights and that was from heat exhaustion. Floyd could not hurt him. So throw that out. You think Oscar’s jab was bothersome, whooooo. Then add on death type of power in both hands. I mean that literally, he killed Jimmy Doyle with a left hook to the temple.


My grand pop told me that Robinson admitted to him that he carried black fighters and fighters who stayed in line. Meaning guys who didn’t disrespect him or tried to knock his head off, he would coast to decisions against. But my pops also said that Robinson was a vicious man and if you were a smart ass, he tried to seriously hurt you. Like he did George “Sugar “ Costner who stole his nickname. Robinson knocked him out in one round, famously telling his wife to keep her coat on because it would be a short night. I would assume Floyd would be a smart ass.


Robinson along with Ray Leonard and Joe Louis are the greatest finishers I ever saw and Robinson is the best combination puncher ever bar none. There is absolutely no way Mayweather could beat Robinson and how Floyd decided to fight would determine if he would get kod or not.


I heard a reporter ask Roger Mayweather is his nephew the best fighter ever and he said no, Sugar Ray Robinson is.


Robinson allegedly won all of his 85 amateur fights, some say he lost one to Billy Graham. But let’s say he was 84-1 as an amateur and we know he went 128-1 as a pro up until his first fight with Randy Turpin. That’s 212-2 before he started to slide ,from pro and amateur fighting on the average of 10 fights a year with NO head gear. I state these things to put in perspective how good this man was and how close to perfect he stayed for so long.


Please don’t ever ask me about Floyd and Ray Robinson again. It’s not fair to Floyd.

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Even Roger Mayweather says that SRR is the greatest fighter that ever lived

 

[Newzz]

Welcome to boxing

Srr being jus a slugger? Wtf

Im stealing this quote breh


It's perfect timing/trolling/sarcasm/truth all rolled in one

 

[Newzz]

Mayweather would tell you otherwise about the other guys, I'm going off what history says

Shavers, and Norton were solid guys in the day, they not great fighters that will live forever. Only reason Norton beat Ali is because he was in decline. He was in his Mid 30's

Liston, dawg, you serious, Liston is remember for getting his ass kicked by Ali thats his legacy. If Ali never existed nobody would give a fukk about sonny liston.
Hatton accomplished more than him in a career dawg.
Great Fighters stand on their own, because their great.
If Foreman never fought Ali he would still be great and remembered as great
If smoking joe never fought Ali he would still be great and remembered as great

There no greater than Zab Judah and Miguel Cotto, fukk Cotto will go down in history has being greater than them

Guerrero just received his second lost dawg, Berto hasn't lost to bums dawg, only contenders

There only a few great fighters every generation, right now Floyd is that guy

 

[GMOGMediaTV]

There really shouldn't be a debate about this. SRR is the GOAT.

 

[Luke Cage]

 

[gangreen]

Threads like this shouldn't even be made when Floyd REFUSED TO FIGHT A fukkING FILIPINO MIDGET. You really think he'd step in the ring with the greatest of all time?

a steroid upped flipino midget

 

[patscorpio]

Sugar Ray Robinson would beat Floyd not because skill, because is too fast and too big, but then again, look at his competition, a lot of those guys couldn't sniff the scrubs in today's game.
I consider him a middleweight, because he dominated at the weight as well
Floyd could not dominate at middlemight, his too small, his a small welterweight at that
this topic is dumb

You might as well ask who would win Sugar Ray Robinson or Ali, of course Ali would win.

The thread should be called who is Pound 4 Pound the greatest Sugar Ray Robinson or Floyd Mayweather

If Floyd beats Canelo at 154 in next year and half, I will go with Floyd.
You can point to SRR's record, but come on you damn well back in the day most guys were bums.

Boxing techniques evolve over time
you wouldn't compare the old boxers who fought like the fighting irish logo, to Ray Robinson, so you can compare Floyd to him, the time frame is too far apart.

Mayweather's defense is the first of it's kind, a by product of generations of boxing knowledge passed down

whooo ive said it before you don't know boxing but this is actually proves it..you actually think floyd's philly shell is originated by him and his ppls ...and its no byproduct either...fighters like tommy hearns and james toney used it just as well the only difference was toney and hearns were more of a puncher and had a killer instinct...and in case you didnt know SRR was a welter for what ppl consider his true prime before he went to middleweight...breh if youre going to talk boxing on here and not sound stupid i suggest you go into the official boxing thread and soak in some knowledge and sharpen up..either that or you have to be seriously on some troll shyt

 

[Cole Cash]

Because most of you in this thread are fukking idiots ill do my best.

Ray Robinson had incredible handspeed, at welterweight he had incredible power, knockout power with both hands, good head movement and even better footwork. He is the greatest boxer puncher of all time, which is what it takes to beat a guy like floyd. Not to mention he had a Jab, a Jab is critical to beating floyd mayweather.

A guy like Vernon Forrest could have likely beat mayweather jr because of the height, the power and the range jab, let alone ray robinson who fukking had it all. Robinson was also intelligent, during his prime his lone loss was to jake lamotta, an all time great hall of famer himself.

Mayweather likely would be beaten all time by roberto duran, the greatest lightweight of all time (if they met at 135) let alone ray robinson.

 

[Cole Cash]

whooo ive said it before you don't know boxing but this is actually proves it..you actually think floyd's philly shell is originated by him and his ppls ...and its no byproduct either...fighters like tommy hearns and james toney used it just as well the only difference was toney and hearns were more of a puncher and had a killer instinct...and in case you didnt know SRR was a welter for what ppl consider his true prime before he went to middleweight...breh if youre going to talk boxing on here and not sound stupid i suggest you go into the official boxing thread and soak in some knowledge and sharpen up..either that or you have to be seriously on some troll shyt

Jersey Joe Walcott was using that shoulder roll. philly shell is just a name that used in fight night, its not by any means an official name

 

[blackzeus]

He hit like a fukking mule kick though, Jake was just tough as nails. Double digit losses when you fight as much as he did doesnt mean much. He fought 3times in less than a month, 2 of them for titles. Would Floyd do that ? Of course not, it was a different time.

Jesus christ

Better question would be v hearns vs leonard o vs duran I dont think none of those guys could deal with srr and they offense

Didnt srr kill somebody lol

But more accurately at 147 srr would be too big for floyd floyd is gonna finish his career at 147 srr starts at 147 ends at middle

/thread @ at the bolded. Back in those days, the best athletes boxed, because that's where the money was at, as opposed to today, where the best athletes play football/basketball/baseball/soccer/hockey etc. SRR was just a different animal, his type don't exist today in the boxing world.