Stunts, Blunts & Basketball: The 2013-14 New York Knicks Season Thread

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The Knicks will most likely have a first round playoff home series....they have a roster that will get them to the playoffs. It's a perfect time for Dolan to rehire old cronies....notice this Grunwald story has gotten little attention.
Breh, you seem to know sports, why not talk sports sometimes instead of front office shyt?
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Breh, you seem to know sports, why not talk sports sometimes instead of front office shyt?

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Just accept the Knicks front office for what it is and be optimistic about an on court product that's destined to fail? It's not in me. :manny:
 

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I read about the NBA every day. I read about the Knicks, CBA, advanced stats, coaching strategies, plays every day. I put Boogie in there as an example thoughtlessly without remembering the article I read just yesterday about them re-signing him. That was an error.

@I.V. and @No_bammer_weed you're right to say that it's a team game. By top-level talent, I mean the kind of situation that the Grizzlies or Spurs build through drafting and signing free agent. I don't mean some Super-Team, which is usually the exception in the NBA and leaves you capped out in the end, with a limited window for winning (see: Brooklyn). It's not about replacing a certain number of points. It's about creating a team flexible, humble, talented and consistent enough to win. Carmelo Anthony, for all of his talents, has proven time and again that he is not that player. He wishes he could make the adjustments Paul Pierce made or that KG made but he has been paired with top-level players and shown an unwillingness to sacrifice for team chemistry. Multiple times.

You want to know what KG's winning percentage was before he teamed up with Pierce? 51% But that number doesn't tell the whole story. Because it's just a number. Here are the win totals from each season:

26/82 32%
40/82 48%
43/82 52%
25/50 50%
50/82 61%
45/82 54%
51/82 62%
47/82 57%
57/82 69%
44/82 54%
33/82 40%
30/82 36%

He led some pretty sub-par talent level teams to 50 win seasons. The best complementary player he ever had beside him was who? Wally Szczerbiak? Tom Gugliotta? Trent Hassell? He was/is a primetime player with ANY team. Carmelo Anthony is a very good -- fukk that, EXCEPTIONAL -- offensive player. He is nowhere NEAR what KG was. On any team.

Paul Pierce's win PCT% in 15 years with the Celtics was 53%. But again, doesn't tell the whole story. As soon as he had high caliber teammates, check how he adjusted his game so that the TEAM WIN PCT% sky-rocketed. He made sacrifices, even as a league giant in scoring, to get KG the ball, to find Ray Allen open. He scored less and did so efficiently.


19/50 38%
35/82 43%
36/82 44%
49/82 60%
44/82 54%
36/82 44%
45/82 55%
33/82 40%
24/82 29%
66/82 80%
62/82 76%
50/82 61%
56/82 68%
39/66 59%
41/81 51%

Carmelo Anthony cannot hold a match to that APPROACH because he hasn't really made sacrifices for the team, yet. Those two players are great examples because they clearly had top-level talent that wasn't translating. They didn't come to other situations and mesh right away or concede everything about their games, but they did adjust to WIN MORE. As soon as they had better teammates, both improved their entire teams. Carmelo has been spoiled by good situations in Denver and not made the most of TEAM results. That's fact. Whether you are entertained by him or not, he's had a decade to prove whether or not he can adjust to the team concept to win more playoff games and hasn't. He's lucky that the internet is the ONLY PLACE he is in the same conversation as two clear Hall-Of-Fame players. One MVP and one Finals MVP.

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NEW YORK -- The New York Knicks have signed veteran forward Ike Diogu, who has been out of the NBA for nearly all of the last two seasons.

The team announced the move Friday.

The 6-foot-9 Diogu was the ninth overall pick in the 2005 draft by Golden State and also has played for Indiana, Portland, Sacramento, the Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio. He appeared in two games for the Spurs in 2011-12, then played in Puerto Rico and China.

Diogu has averaged 6.0 points in 225 games in his six seasons.

Is this a GG or Mills move? What's the report on Ike?
 

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NEW YORK -- The New York Knicks have signed veteran forward Ike Diogu, who has been out of the NBA for nearly all of the last two seasons.

The team announced the move Friday.

The 6-foot-9 Diogu was the ninth overall pick in the 2005 draft by Golden State and also has played for Indiana, Portland, Sacramento, the Los Angeles Clippers and San Antonio. He appeared in two games for the Spurs in 2011-12, then played in Puerto Rico and China.

Diogu has averaged 6.0 points in 225 games in his six seasons.

Is this a GG or Mills move? What's the report on Ike?

He's good for knocking out Dominicans in Olympic qualifying tournaments :mad:
 
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