Study shows ChatGPT can produce medical record notes 10 times faster than doctors without compromising quality

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They won't make doctors spend more time with the patients, they'll just make the Doctors see more patients for a short amount of time.

Now, though, will the med students be learning as much during rotations and residency?
Half of the time the docs use a medical program on the cpu for diagnoses, Drs are automatically deemed to be smart , but some of them it’s just like :snoop:


And don’t get me started on the pharmaceutical reps, yeah we get free lunch , but the doctors try to push those prescriptions more
 

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me after taking the subscriptions chatGPT recommends

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Death By Prescription​

By one estimate, taking prescribed medications is the fourth leading cause of death among Americans.

By Michael O. Schroeder Former Staff WriterSept. 27, 2016, at 9:00 a.m.

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Americans are taking more medications than ever before.

Nearly 60 to 70 percent of us take at least one prescribed drug, depending upon the estimate; for many it amounts to a fistful, potpourri of pills per day. Meanwhile, new drug approvals have reached a 19-year high. It’s a mark cheered notably for the swift minting of medications to tackle so-called “orphan diseases,” rare conditions for which few or no treatment options exist. But critics say an expedited drug approval process is opening the door for riskier drugs – including many not proven to provide unique benefits over drugs already on the market.

Even as an opioid overdose crisis sweeps the country, another ubiquitous, insidious danger is hidden from view. There’s no formal process for quantifying injuries, hospitalizations or even deaths caused by therapeutic drug use – which excludes overdose or misuse. “Risk management begins with measuring things accurately, so you know what the threats are and the ones where you should be paying attention,” says Thomas J. Moore, senior scientist for drug safety and policy at the Institute for Safe Medication Practices. But he notes that there’s no system in place or accepted methodology for developing these tallies for prescription drugs, unlike with overdoses. Health providers and consumers are encouraged to report adverse drug reactions to the Food and Drug Administration, and the agency can issue safety communications, require drug label warnings and pull drugs from the market, among other risk management measures. But the FDA says it’s unable to use the incomplete adverse event reporting data to quantify overall deaths that result from therapeutic drug use.

The difficulty involved in trying to estimate the toll, however, hasn’t stopped Moore and other researchers from seeking to quantify how many people die annually from taking prescribed drugs – often by closely evaluating hospital admission studies. Estimates dating back nearly two decades put the number at 100,000 or more deaths annually, which includes a study published in the Journal of the American Medical Association in 1998 that projected 106,000 deaths. A more recent analysis estimates 128,000 Americans die each year as a result of taking medications as prescribed – or nearly five times the number of people killed by overdosing on prescription painkillers and heroin.

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Our prescription drugs kill us in large numbers
Peter C Gøtzsche
PMID: 25355584 DOI: 10.20452/pamw.2503
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Our prescription drugs are the third leading cause of death after heart disease and cancer in the United States and Europe. Around half of those who die have taken their drugs correctly; the other half die because of errors, such as too high a dose or use of a drug despite contraindications. Our drug agencies are not particularly helpful, as they rely on fake fixes, which are a long list of warnings, precautions, and contraindications for each drug, although they know that no doctor can possibly master all of these. Major reasons for the many drug deaths are impotent drug regulation, widespread crime that includes corruption of the scientific evidence about drugs and bribery of doctors, and lies in drug marketing, which is as harmful as tobacco marketing and, therefore, should be banned. We should take far fewer drugs, and patients should carefully study the package inserts of the drugs their doctors prescribe for them and independent information sources about drugs such as Cochrane reviews, which will make it easier for them to say "no thanks".
 
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if you go back to school now, what degree could u even get? in 5 years, 90% of university degrees will be for something a computer does already.
 

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The march of technological advances has always disrupted workforces and displaced workers.

marx said this would by the natural outcome of automation realized to its fullest potential.

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Tech ultimately always benefits corporations more than the average person even if they have the same tech.
You'll all eventually watch AI movies at the cinema, but no one will see your AI movie made at home. :yeshrug:

The corporations are only using AI to cut down on workforce and save a few more pennies. Not to offer a better experience to customers and patients in this case.
If the owners and boards could send everyone home tonight and replace us all with AI they would. This isn't anything to celebrate.
All these replaced workers will end up having to find work in poor nations where AI wouldn't have caught up yet and people are still somewhat humanistic.
 
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Tech ultimately always benefits corporations more than the average person even if they have the same tech.
You'll all eventually watch AI movies at the cinema, but no one will see your AI movie made at home. :yeshrug:

The corporations are only using AI to cut down on workforce and save a few more pennies. Not to offer a better experience to customers and patients in this case.
If the owners and boards could send everyone home tonight and replace us all with AI they would. This isn't anything to celebrate.
All these replaced workers will end up having to find work in poor nations where AI wouldn't have caught up yet and people are still somewhat humanistic.
no, the result will be a restructured socioeconomic order, with workers liberated from the urgency to rent themselves out for the purpose of satisfying basic needs. again, as marx said, it will open the doors to a more creative society and one whose labor will be fulfilling rather than burdensome.

this will only hasten the establishment of universal basic income. corporations still need a consumer base; they can’t survive off the 1% alone.

:francis:
 

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Figure 1. Social intelligence levels of AI models and psychologists.

4 Discussion

The main question of this study was “Does artificial intelligence reach the level of human social intelligence?.” When we assess humans, we use psychological standards to estimate their level of social intelligence. This is what we did in this study, where the same measure was used on the AI represented by the large linguistic model (i.e., ChatGPT 4, Bing, and Google Bard). Our study showed important results regarding the superiority of AI in the field of SI.

The present findings showed that ChatGPT-4 completely outperformed the psychologists. Bing outperformed most of the psychologists at the bachelor’s level, while the differences in social intelligence were not significant between Bing and the psychologists at the doctoral level. Interestingly, the psychologists of doctoral holders significantly outperformed Google Bird, while the differences between Google Bird and undergraduate students were not statistically significant, meaning that Google Bird’s performance was equal to the performance of bachelor’s students on the SI scale.

The result showed that AI outperformed human SI measured by the same scale, and some of it was equal, as in the case of Google Bard, with a certain educational level, which is a bachelor’s degree, but it was lower than the level of doctoral. The human participants in this study were a group assumed to have high social intelligence, as many studies have found ( Osipow and Walsh, 1973; Wood, 1984), as well as by looking at their average social intelligence measured in the current study compared to the hypothesized mean. By defining social intelligence as the ability to understand the needs, feelings, and thoughts of people in general and to choose wise behavior according to this understanding, it is practically assumed that this would reflected in the superiority of psychologists over the performance of AI. However, our results showed that the differences were of varying, with AI outperforming humans, especially ChatGPT-4, and psychologists with PhDs outperforming Google Bird, while the difference between humans and Ping was not statistically significant.
 

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At an actual doctor writing anything but a few sentences in the “assessment” or “plan” sections lol
 

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i use the basic version of chatgp and i asked it to put together notes for a patient with a terminal AIDS diagnosis - 6 months to live. did it in less than ten seconds.
 
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