The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Wtf going on in here 
Study of all US deaths shows 900,000 corona fatalities so far
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the cac mamba
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illness has been taking people in their 80s since the beginning of time. its called life. natural human biologyagain, uncomfortable conversation. i get why no one wants to have it
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again, uncomfortable conversation. i get why no one wants to have it
You're the one who doesn't want to have the fukking conversation.
A. I answered your question with the # of deaths from people under 78, which has been a horrific toll (450,000+). You ignored it.
B. I pointed out American lifespans have decreased several years as a direct result of the pandemic. You ignored it.
B. I explained why your rationale of ignoring deaths over 78 was idiotic and compared to past precedent. You ignored it.
Now you say no one wants to have the conversation.
Do you have any purpose here other than to deflect and troll? You refuse to inform yourself, you've said repeatedly that you don't respect anyone here, you ignore any logical or factual argument even if it answers the exact question you asked....so why the fukk are you even here?
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again, uncomfortable conversation. i get why no one wants to have it
You lost your own plot
Straight up sociopathYou lost your own plot
I was trying to decide whether to put this thread in HL or TLR and decided to do HL cause I wanted to limit trolling and derailments. 
the cac mamba
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I was trying to decide whether to put this thread in HL or TLR and decided to do HL cause I wanted to limit trolling and derailments.
You lost your own plot
actually, a good point was made earlier. lets see how fulla shyt you guys really are
everyone in here who's mad at what i said; you think Andrew Cuomo is a murderer, right? you think Cuomo is a murderer who should be put in prison for what he "did"?
because you dont get to be mad about what i said, but give Cuomo ANY kind of fukkin pass for what he did
Should he be in prison. Yes.actually, a good point was made earlier. lets see how fulla shyt you guys really are
everyone in here who's mad at what i said; you think Andrew Cuomo is a murderer, right? you think Cuomo is a murderer who should be put in prison for what he "did"?
because you dont get to be mad about what i said, but give Cuomo ANY kind of fukkin pass for what he did
the cac mamba
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consistency. i respect it@Rhakim @Pressure Cuomo is a murderer, right? i must have missed the thread where we all agreed that Cuomo is a murderer
i mean judging by the responses in this thread, its not even a debate that Cuomo is a murderer. im glad we cleared that up
see me, i think it's fukking asinine to blame cuomo for nursing home deaths. for the exact reasons i laid out earlier. but what about you? you agree with fox news that cuomo is a murderer?
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Also I'd like to know if they distinguish between people who die specifically of Covid and people who die with Covid. I've heard anyone that dies of a heart attack that happened to have Covid was counted as a Covid death.two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life
shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
actually, a good point was made earlier. lets see how fulla shyt you guys really are
everyone in here who's mad at what i said; you think Andrew Cuomo is a murderer, right? you think Cuomo is a murderer who should be put in prison for what he "did"?
because you dont get to be mad about what i said, but give Cuomo ANY kind of fukkin pass for what he did
ALL you fukking do is deflect.
You've literally ran this exact same deflection with me before, and I answered you:
More proof you don't give a shyt about the thread, or my answers to your questions, your ONLY point is to derail and deflect.
First off, even at the biggest peak no more than 1% or so of the American population had Covid at any one time. And that was just for two months, most of the year it was closer to 0.25% of Americans with Covid. So even if every random death of a person "with Covid" was miscounted, at most that would have accounted for well under 1% of deaths.
Since the death rate went up by over 20% last year, it's clear that the random deaths would be background noise at most.
More important, in the paper they arrived at their total estimate by comparing the death rates for every means of death from before 2020 to the death rates after March 1, 2020, and determining which increases were directly related to Covid and which ones were not. What they found was that about 900,000 more people died after Covid started than had died during the similar period the year before. They tried to see if some of those deaths could be explained by other factors, but they found that generally the other factors cancelled out (murders went up, car accident deaths went down, etc.).
Basically, it can't just be random shyt being written off as the wrong cause because almost a million MORE people died during the Covid era than had died in the same amount of time a year before.
This was you last March, right?
So you claimed it kills less than the flu, that only the media was calling it a pandemic, that it was just a ploy to scare people so they'd vote against Trump, and that it wouldn't come back and there wouldn't be another surge.
And since you spent the entire next year being horrifically wrong, you apologized and admitted it? Wait no, you just ran to emote in this thread and call US stupid cause you prefer denying reality.
The biggest surge was after the election, was that to get Trump out too? The deaths in Italy, UK, Brazil, all the deaths in India right now....all for Trump?
dora_da_destroyer
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you're still running with this made up stupidity....two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life
shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
cause of death is covid - it counts