Study of all US deaths shows 900,000 corona fatalities so far

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Silver lining - only 40,000 more deaths expected between now and September. :manny:


New Study Estimates More Than 900,000 People Have Died Of COVID-19 In U.S.
A new study estimates that the number of people who have died of COVID-19 in the U.S. is more than 900,000, a number 57% higher than official figures.

Worldwide, the study's authors say, the COVID-19 death count is nearing 7 million, more than double the reported number of 3.24 million.

The analysis comes from researchers at the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation, who looked at excess mortality from March 2020 through May 3, 2021, compared it with what would be expected in a typical nonpandemic year, then adjusted those figures to account for a handful of other pandemic-related factors.

The final count only estimates deaths "caused directly by the SARS-CoV-2 virus," according to the study's authors. SARS-CoV-2 is the virus that causes COVID-19.

Researchers estimated dramatic undercounts in countries such as India, Mexico and Russia, where they said the official death counts are some 400,000 too low in each country. In some countries — including Japan, Egypt and several Central Asian nations — the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation's death toll estimate is more than 10 times higher than reported totals.


"The analysis just shows how challenging it has been during the pandemic to accurately track the deaths — and actually, transmission — of COVID. And by focusing in on the total COVID death rate, I think we bring to light just how much greater the impact of COVID has been already and may be in the future," said Dr. Christopher Murray, who heads the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation.

The group reached its estimates by calculating excess mortality based on a variety of sources, including official death statistics from various countries, as well as academic studies of other locations.

Then, it examined other mortality factors influenced by the pandemic. For example, some of the extra deaths were caused by increased opioid overdoses or deferred health care. On the other hand, the dramatic reduction in flu cases last winter and a modest drop in deaths caused by injury resulted in lower mortality in those categories than usual.

Researchers at UW ultimately concluded that the extra deaths not directly caused by COVID-19 were effectively offset by the other reductions in death rates, leaving them to attribute all of the net excess deaths to the coronavirus.

"When you put all that together, we conclude that the best way, the closest estimate, for the true COVID death is still excess mortality, because some of those things are on the positive side, other factors are on the negative side," Murray said.
Researchers at UW also released an updated forecast for the COVID-19 death count worldwide, estimating that roughly 2.5 million more people will die of COVID-19 between now and Sept. 1, driven in part by the dramatic surge of cases in India.

In the United States, researchers estimated roughly 44,000 more people will die of COVID-19 by September.


If you read the full story their conclusions aren't fully accepted yet, some other researchers feel their total is too large. I've seen other estimates that suggest it's more like 750,000. Either way, everyone agrees the official tally is an undercount by well over 100k.

Here's the original paper: Estimation of total mortality due to COVID-19
 

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Any estimates on how many of those deaths were preventable if Trump hadn’t downplayed the virus?
Definitely not in this study because that would rely on too many assumptions.

An earlier study that just compared US covid deaths to a weighted average of other similar countries suggested US deaths were 40% higher than similar nations. However, that's not necessarily just a "Trump effect". You could argue that our less compliant population and other idiots in office are also responsible. Or you could argue that our status as virtually an island nation and our extensive financial/technical resources compared even to other developed nations means that we should have kept our %'s lower than them.




what are the numbers if you don't count people over 78?
Not sure why people over 78 don't count, but if you really want to leave them out, around 450-500k of the deaths were under 78.

There were so many young deaths that life expectancy in the USA has dropped by 2-3 years since the pandemic began.
 

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Definitely not in this study because that would rely on too many assumptions.

An earlier study that just compared US covid deaths to a weighted average of other similar countries suggested US deaths were 40% higher than similar nations. However, that's not necessarily just a "Trump effect". You could argue that our less compliant population and other idiots in office are also responsible. Or you could argue that our status as virtually an island nation and our extensive financial/technical resources compared even to other developed nations means that we should have kept our %'s lower than them.





Not sure why people over 78 don't count, but if you really want to leave them out, around 450-500k of the deaths were under 78.

There were so many young deaths that life expectancy in the USA has dropped by 2-3 years since the pandemic began.
two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
Goddamn sometimes you're literally the lowest denominator. :mjlol:

Imagine them using this in ANY other tragedy in American history. "3000 people died in the 9/11 attacks.....but really only 2450 because 550 of them were over 78."

"45,000 people die in car accidents every year....but really only 40,000 cause 5,000 of them were over 78."

Hell, half of the people who died in Katrina were over 75. Can you imagine how fukking stupid someone would have sounded if they cut the Katrina death toll in half and said the ones over 75 didn't count cause they had enough life?


Sometimes I wonder if you realize how much the narratives you listen to have warped your brain. :francis:
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
I also want to note that you completely ignored the fact that I did answer your question, and you also ignored that life expectancy has decreased several years due to Covid. It's almost like you didn't even care about the answer. Of course, that was expected since your only goal in literally every serious conversation is to derail it.
 

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Goddamn sometimes you're literally the lowest denominator. :mjlol:

Imagine them using this in ANY other tragedy in American history. "3000 people died in the 9/11 attacks.....but really only 2450 because 550 of them were over 78."

"45,000 people die in car accidents every year....but really only 40,000 cause 5,000 of them were over 78."

Hell, half of the people who died in Katrina were over 75. Can you imagine how fukking stupid someone would have sounded if they cut the Katrina death toll in half and said the ones over 75 didn't count cause they had enough life?


Sometimes I wonder if you realize how much the narratives you listen to have warped your brain. :francis:

Maybe Andrew Cuomo should make this argument, his death count would be reset to zero.

:mjgrin:
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
Really breh?
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
:picard:

Jesus. You said that shyt out loud.
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation
Do you read the shyt you post before you post it?

I feel like a lot of your posts be in the heat of the moment and you say shyt that if you had taken like 30 seconds to read over you'd be like "Wow I was really about to hit post reply"
 

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two years ago, making it past 78 (life expectancy) was considered a long and full life :yeshrug: now its an early, tragic death if you were in the same room as covid. removing the emotion, its fukkin stupid

shouldnt be included in the covid count. it hasnt helped us have a realistic conversation

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