Streets Disciple Evaluation and Discussion Thread

[Ziggiy]

Why doesn't anybody EVER mention "Reason" when talking about the best tracks on Street's Disciple I dont' think i ever seen anybody on the-coli/sohh recognize this track and acknowledge it for the soulful dopeness that it is, shyt boggles my mind


Nas - "Reason" (feat. Emily) - YouTube

11). Reason- Nas again, deconstructs Ghetto existence through the eyes of the children of a lessor God. Three verses dealing with the violence, betrayal, and torment of a lifestyle that routinely goes un-documented. Tipper Gore wanted to speak out against the "violence and negativity" of rap music and how it could "have devastating influence on the youth". What Mrs. Gore failed to realize however is that hip hop is byproduct of the influence of the ENVIRONMENT. In the same way that reporting the news cannot be blamed for " negative impacts on the youth" neither can Hip Hop be blamed for that which Nas saw and experienced, after all, he, like so many other disadvantaged youths are only products of the forgotten street corners that Tipper Gore wouldn't DREAM of walking across

"By the time of age nine I'm already decidin'
If I can protect mommy from the hood by fightin'
Or usin' a knife or a gun when I'm twenty-one
But by then them hoods woulda pushed their way in our apartment
And we die then, so I been a young nervous wreck in the projects
Watchin' them older *****z pass pot and they high man
I'm just a young boy, snot nose, hair nappy
Cops ride by squeezin' their trigger fingers at me"

Nas also speaks to the breakdown of the black family. A mother who spends more time Nannying someone else's children for pennies while her own children starve. No father figure present to provide any form of stability and guidance, his fate is left unknown, yet often wondered upon by his abandoned family.

 

[InstantKlassik]

11). Reason- Nas again, deconstructs Ghetto existence through the eyes of the children of a lessor God. Three verses dealing with the violence, betrayal, and torment of a lifestyle that routinely goes un-documented. Tipper Gore wanted to speak out against the "violence and negativity" of rap music and how it could "have devastating influence on the youth". What Mrs. Gore failed to realize however is that hip hop is byproduct of the influence of the ENVIRONMENT. In the same way that reporting the news cannot be blamed for " negative impacts on the youth" neither can Hip Hop be blamed for that which Nas saw and experienced, after all, he, like so many other disadvantaged youths are only products of the forgotten street corners that Tipper Gore wouldn't DREAM of walking across

"By the time of age nine I'm already decidin'
If I can protect mommy from the hood by fightin'
Or usin' a knife or a gun when I'm twenty-one
But by then them hoods woulda pushed their way in our apartment
And we die then, so I been a young nervous wreck in the projects
Watchin' them older *****z pass pot and they high man
I'm just a young boy, snot nose, hair nappy
Cops ride by squeezin' their trigger fingers at me"

Nas also speaks to the breakdown of the black family. A mother who spends more time Nannying someone else's children for pennies while her own children starve. No father figure present to provide any form of stability and guidance, his fate is left unknown, yet often wondered upon by his abandoned family.

 

[Shammago]

Obviously the first disk was near flawless and the 2nd disk was ehhhh / aiight.

 

[criminology]

Why doesn't anybody EVER mention "Reason" when talking about the best tracks on Street's Disciple I dont' think i ever seen anybody on the-coli/sohh recognize this track and acknowledge it for the soulful dopeness that it is, shyt boggles my mind


Nas - "Reason" (feat. Emily) - YouTube

I came into the tread to praise this song. That and just a moment are the stand out tracks for me.

The album wasn't terrible but it lacked highlights that most Nas albums have that make up for the weaker tracks. Even nastradamus had project windows.

 

[Ziggiy]

I came into the tread to praise this song. That and just a moment are the stand out tracks for me.

10). Just A Moment (featuring Quan)- This song resonates on so many levels. From the beautiful, melancholy production, Quan's soulful harmonizing, and the heartfelt message of the hook, this is truly a classic song. Nasty and Quan do justice to the "ballad for the fallen Soldier" theme with passionate lyrics that convey both a sense of the pain of profound loss and the sincerity of their prayers.

Yeah, and can we have another moment of silence?
For brothers who died from black-on-black violence
From here to the Dark Continent were rebels sell diamonds
To clients all over the world, got little Black girls dyin'
And can we please pour some more liquors?
For Will, Bokeem, Bar, Pappy -- my *****z
Here's another Warrior Song from Nasty and Quan
It's to him I pass the baton to carry this on
Street's Disciple, salute to those who's gone with bullets
And I promise through rhymin' Quan gon' rep his life to the fullest
And can we please have a moment of truth?
For soldiers and troops away with helmets and boots
And families back home who pray they make it home safe
Hopin' that they don't get hit with a stray or missiles
This is just a moment to let you all know that we miss you
Mommy I'm still here, wishin' I was there with you
Let's take a Moment"

Again, Nas, practicing what he preaches and that's "blackness". In the year before Kanye West would rap about how "Little is known of Sierre Leone/ and how it connects to the Diamonds we own/" Nas was already there. Speaking about the cruelty that is the Diamond trade in Africa and how it destroys the lives of millions while we as African Americans kill each other over the same thing right here in America. Whether it's a child rebel soldier in Africa, or a
stick up kid in the projects, the greed for flashy jewelry and public displays of
wealth continue to be a poison that infects the black populace. The second bolded portion is relevant not only to myself as an American soldier away on deployment, but also the thousands of other soldiers deployed and fighting in the VERY REAL war that's going on. Whether that war is a true battle against "terrorism" and "oppression" or another in a long line of wars designed to fill the pockets of "The Regime" who sits back and watches the troops die as they fill their Cuban tobacco pipes We truly don't know. What I DO know however is that there is NOT a soldier who at some point of being away from their family and loved ones for months on end, takes just a moment to ask their God to see them though the periods of strife and frustration, so that they may be reunited with their loved ones.....

 

[jerzboy]

Aside from that godawful "Anerican Way" track with Kelis and "These are our Heroes"... This album received too much hate. It's a good album. Some classic Nas songs in there.

By the way, when he raps over that Run DMC beat, that song is tough as shyt. One of the few Nas songs to play in the club

 

[Tom]

This album is a personal fav from mine. I never understood the hate for this album


10/10 for me

 

[MMM]

I'm definitely in the minority but I love this album. only songs I don't really like are me & you, no one else in the room & makings of a perfect bytch(not that bad).

everything else I like

 

[up in here]

Why doesn't anybody EVER mention "Reason" when talking about the best tracks on Street's Disciple I dont' think i ever seen anybody on the-coli/sohh recognize this track and acknowledge it for the soulful dopeness that it is, shyt boggles my mind


Nas - "Reason" (feat. Emily) - YouTube

Yeah I thought Reason was dope. One of the best songs on the album. I also enjoyed Rest Of My Life.

I agree if you cut it down to a single album it actually flows better and is just alot more satisfying, the good songs were really good but the other songs really brought it down. The sequencing was off a little bit too. To me, this is nas worst album but it has some of my favorite nas songs on here. I wouldn't say its a bad album because there is actually a good amount of dope songs on here, just that it was very uneven because there is also a good amount of bad songs on here.

 

[jerzboy]

Bruh....I'm sure there was a gang of more productive shyt to do than to drop this post. SD is str8 basura. You Know My Style and Where Yall At should have been the sound for that album. I was dissapointed when it came out.

I do agree with you that "My Style" should've been the sound for the album

 

[Ziggiy]

I do agree with you that "My Style" should've been the sound for the album

SD was meant to be a triple disc with disc 1 being the hardcore bangers like Talk Of New York, Serious, Disciple, Thief's Theme, You Know My Style, etc. the second disc was meant to be political like American Way, These Are Our Heroes, etc and the third disc was supposed to be personal ala Bridging The Gap, War, Me & You, etc but Sony wouldn't allow for a Triple album so they had to curt it to two. Salaam Remi talks about it in an interview that can be found on YouTube

 

[jerzboy]

SD was meant to be a triple disc with disc 1 being the hardcore bangers like Talk Of New York, Serious, Disciple, Thief's Theme, You Know My Style, etc. the second disc was meant to be political like American Way, These Are Our Heroes, etc and the third disc was supposed to be personal ala Bridging The Gap, War, Me & You, etc but Sony wouldn't allow for a Triple album so they had to curt it to two. Salaam Remi talks about it in an interview that can be found on YouTube

Sounds good on paper, but damn Nas, three disc. He's my favorite rapper, but three cd's is too much. Only way that would've worked is if each disc was like 7-9 songs.

 

[Arcavian]

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[Ziggiy]

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[phonthought3000]

SD was meant to be a triple disc with disc 1 being the hardcore bangers like Talk Of New York, Serious, Disciple, Thief's Theme, You Know My Style, etc. the second disc was meant to be political like American Way, These Are Our Heroes, etc and the third disc was supposed to be personal ala Bridging The Gap, War, Me & You, etc but Sony wouldn't allow for a Triple album so they had to curt it to two. Salaam Remi talks about it in an interview that can be found on YouTube

Is that the "Director Cut" version Salaam was talking bout.....if so that if he wouldve released that just imagine if he would've released the original double disc version of I Am and then Street Disciple as a triple disc......WOW!!!!