Stop justifying PBC fighters ducking/not facing Crawford

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So he gets a fighter with a name at 147 to fight him, yet he isn't worried about that fight. :camby:

I don't wanna hear nobody say anybody ducking Crawford no more bruh. Crawford coulda been fought Danny, or Porter, hell they could of threw out small change and got Ugas as well. They doing exactly what I thought which is trying to get the big payday without doing any legwork to build hype.:hhh:
 

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It’s zero objectively here in regards to TR.
It’s clear as day none of the pbc guys are pressed. People talking low ball offers, where are the offers from the pbc side period? Why is there zero talk of manny vs Crawford from either side? It’s multiple guys from pbc on camera talking about keeping shyt in house but yet it’s never pbc fault for anything. :dead:
For some reason the onus is always on the other networks to make something happen. Pbc is allowed to continually give us CTE bouts like this coming Garcia Redkach match which I’m sure ppl will be hyping saying its “a good scrap”. :francis:
Never mind them trying make their own belts. I was shocked they even acknowledged Crawford existed when they showed the graphic of the “pbc welterweight division” last week.
Is it a coincidence so many pbc guys, across divisions, have difficulties making fights against guys on other networks? Doubt it. I’m glad it’s a trend of pbc guys going to dazn now.
 

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PBC is following the Top Rank blueprint. How come Top Rank never co promoted a fight with JMM or Tim Bradley. There were plenty of names on the PBC side to make fights with. Garcia and Broner called them out. Bradley was Spence's mandatory.

Crawford doesn't do numbers on PPV. That is why these fights have not happened yet. If he was a decent draw they wouldn't be asking to face any of the PBC guys and would keep fights in house like they always do. It's common sense. He needs those guys to sell PPV?

Crawford has no leverage. He should have had an out in his contract?
 

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It’s zero objectively here in regards to TR.
It’s clear as day none of the pbc guys are pressed. People talking low ball offers, where are the offers from the pbc side period? Why is there zero talk of manny vs Crawford from either side? It’s multiple guys from pbc on camera talking about keeping shyt in house but yet it’s never pbc fault for anything. :dead:
For some reason the onus is always on the other networks to make something happen. Pbc is allowed to continually give us CTE bouts like this coming Garcia Redkach match which I’m sure ppl will be hyping saying its “a good scrap”. :francis:
Never mind them trying make their own belts. I was shocked they even acknowledged Crawford existed when they showed the graphic of the “pbc welterweight division” last week.
Is it a coincidence so many pbc guys, across divisions, have difficulties making fights against guys on other networks? Doubt it. I’m glad it’s a trend of pbc guys going to dazn now.

Manny and Crawford were both on Top Rank at one point if they didn't make it when they had both guys why would the PBC do it when they could put him in with one of thier own.

Top Rank only copromotes when it benefits them. Wilder vs Fury 2 should have happened already but they held it back. Broner has been calling out Ramirez why not make that fight?

PBC guys have no issue making fights when the money is right. Only issue is when they have to go elsewhere to make fights they have to sign long term deals.

Drevenchenko is a PBC guy and he fought on DAZN, so did Andy Ruiz. Jacobs was a PBC guy had to leave to get fights. (no one is saying Crawford has to leave). Jessie Vargas was a PBC guy, like Mikey Garcia and were able to leave.

Eleider Alvarez had to sign with Top Rank to get fights at 175. Top Rank also tried to steal David Benavides a while back. They also tried to sue the PBC for 100 Million.

Crawford is in the same position as Andrade.
 

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If I were PBC, Haymon & co I would freeze Crawford out. Crawford chose to resign, knowing who Arum is and how Arum doesnt get among with Haymon. They're talking hella reckless after a closer fight than expected and saying they're ducking, etc. At this point I'd freeze him out.
 

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Manny and Crawford were both on Top Rank at one point if they didn't make it when they had both guys why would the PBC do it when they could put him in with one of thier own.

Top Rank only copromotes when it benefits them. .

Well back then people were saying Arum was protecting Manny by not letting Crawford fight him and I vaguely remember Freddie Roach saying they weren't interested in fighting Crawford. Now that Manny is on PBC the narrative is Arum was protecting Crawford from Manny :dead:. The truth is it's probably a lot of factors including the fighters themselves assessing the risk. Look how long it took Spence to start getting called out by the other PBC fighters, several years they barely said his name.


 

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Well back then people were saying Arum was protecting Manny by not letting Crawford fight him and I vaguely remember Freddie Roach saying they weren't interested in fighting Crawford. Now that Manny is on PBC the narrative is Arum was protecting Crawford from Manny :dead:. The truth is it's probably a lot of factors including the fighters themselves assessing the risk. Look how long it took Spence to start getting called out by the other PBC fighters, several years they barely said his name.




Crawford resigned with Top Rank cause Bob dangled the Manny fight.....and it never materialized. The blame begins and end with Bob Arum.
 

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Do you think it’s possible for him to get out his contract?

Yes ..he can initiate a buyout if Arum is willing to accept a buyout

As Floyd was able to do during his tenure on Top Rank

This article speaks upon it...

How Floyd's decision to spend 750k and buy himself out of that oppressive contract was the best decision he ever made

Boxing's Greatest Investment: Floyd Mayweather's $750,000 Bet On Himself

De La Hoya did the same thing as well

And Pacquiao was able to free himself as well with 'assistance" from Haymon

Only thing is all three of those fighters had something in common which was pending legal cases against Bob Arum whom they sued for financial irregularities and breach of contract

Which made it less of a headache and to his benifit for Arum to release them from thier contractual obligations
 
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