Stop calling my culture "Hip-Hop"

[Juneya]

i never said it wasnt african dance. i said it didnt come from capoeria. it came from the bronx and u mad as fukk

Okay...Bboying came from the Bronx... I don't give a fukk.
You mad as fukk.
Cause it came from Brazil. It didn't come until that nikka from Brazil got there.
Hurts y'all soul that HIP HOP is a lie you were sold.

 

[mobbinfms]

What do you mean by this?

Ok. So you are acknowledging that NYC had this thing called hip hop in the 70s, but your argument is that it has no relation to what's happening today? So when did "hip hop" end? What were the records that were labeled "hip hop" but weren't?

@Juneya you didn't respond to these questions.

Get off is dikk.
He posted shyt basically confirming everything I said.
You been on his dikk for three days lmao

But naw seriously I appreciate both of you. Real shyt.

He gotta be self taught. That is the only way to learn our history

What kind of bipolar shyt is this?
Game?

 

[kingdizzy01]

Okay...Bboying came from the Bronx... I don't give a fukk.
You mad as fukk.
Cause it came from Brazil. It didn't come until that nikka from Brazil got there.
Hurts y'all soul that HIP HOP is a lie you were sold.

what was his name?

zulu kings, the nikka twinz, spy, kool herc, all the original rock dancers, would disagree with u too

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Capoeria ain't got shyt to do with bboying

 

[mobbinfms]

There is nothi different about it.
It is not a special thing.

If this were true, all the different elements of hip hop would have come together in many different parts of the US if not the world. The fact that they did not, makes it special.
You've hinted at parties in Miami and LA. You've never posted any receipts about them.
You duck questions from me that ask you to clarify your positions. You make grand statements without a shred of proof.
Contrast that to @IllmaticDelta who backs up his claims with quotes from the people involved in the hip hop scene in the 70s. Then posts a picture of a book with the quote. And then a video with the person saying the quote. His receipt game is
Your receipt game is

 

[mobbinfms]

if the key elements of black culture that exist today... Existed during the "hip hop" era... And before the hip hop era... How can you give hip hop credit.

Not all of them did. And those that did exist, hip hop put its own spin on them for the most part.

 

[mobbinfms]

Looping breakbeats: started in Jamaica.

With one turntable?
@IllmaticDelta already called bullshyt on this.

 

[mobbinfms]

Bboying: competitive dance. Happens almost everywhere the African was taken. But it is extremely similar to the ancient fight dance of Capoeria in Brazil's .

Looping breakbeats: started in Jamaica.

Graffiti: art? Yes Africans made art everywhere they went. Just because you urbanized it doesn't make it a different act

Park Jams: definitely part of black culture to come together and dance. Once a week. The club. The Congo square in NO. Haiti vodou ceremonies. Social clubs in Cuba.

Even gang lifestyle: is an cultural thing that predates the USA by hundreds of years.

This isn't responsive to his point though. You haven't identified one location where all these different elements existed in basically the same configuration.

 

[mobbinfms]

Dancing, Art, Music, and coming together as a group to make it all happen.

Are characteristics of African culture. Not hip hop.

So are you arguing that all African culture is uniform?

 

[mobbinfms]

I do understand that sir.
That is why my lifestyle has nothing to do with spinning on my head and spray painting public transportation. I ain't that type of c00n.

Since my lifestyle has nothing to do with spinning on my head and wearing fake gold chains......... Please stop calling it hip hop....

Spinning on your head. And wearing fake rope chains.... Is dead... Like hip hop. But my culture..... IS STRONGER THAN EVER

So when did hip hop end? What defines your culture? Music? Art? Dance?
You still haven't given us the definition of culture...

 

[Newportbox]

This dudes regionally driven agenda is see through..

 

[mobbinfms]

Or a nikka coulda had a passport. Or a white man could have had one. You can't prove it never happen.

The onus is on you to prove that it did happen. It's your claim.

 

[Juneya]

@Juneya you didn't respond to these questions.


What kind of bipolar shyt is this?
Game?

Lol was kinda bipolar... Was being funny...

New Orleans? New Orleans is the only place in North America where slaves where allowed to meet. Sale goods. And play the drum. The drum was not allowed to slaves in North America. So you could preserve your history. So you could revolt like the Haitians did the French.

But in New Orleans. They were allowed to play the drum. meet in clubs.
In New Orleans.... They had the ferry with Cuba. The first slave colony. Slaves from both areas not only traded news and stories. But music. Not just rap. But sheet music. For piano players. The drum was banned here. The clubs jumped with slaves and freeman from all the slave colonies in New Orleans.

And then Jazz happen. Between Havanna and New Orleans. So not only was rap happening. Not only was the drum happening, ((which most slaves are from the Middle Africa. Middle Africa is dense Forrest and the drum is prevalent. If they were from Northern Africa, there would be less drum and more Arabic/Muslim influence in the music.)).... Slaves were buying there freedom in New Orleans

Rapping was happening in New Orleans
Drumming
Dancing
Early Pimps in the red light district. The first red light district lol. Before the fire.
Jazz
Congo square


New Orleans is dope man... The more I read the more I realized. It's where it all started musically. Because of the freedom. Because it was a French/Spanish/and BRITISH colony.

 

[mobbinfms]

..."key elements" don't make a compound until you mix them together in a particular manner. That's how.
"Hip-Hop" is the compound that mixed those elements together the way we know them.

Well said.

 

[Juneya]

This dudes regionally driven agenda is see through..

Lol if I was lame I would hit you with the cam you mad...